Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas

[MrDollarBills]

It's not lateral if you believe Gordon's potential exceeds RHJ's. His size also gives us a better chance to at least make things difficult for legit big men down low.

Gordon doesnt really put up much resistance downlow. hard to say RHJ isnt just better, but significantly better as a post defender. his ability to gaurd all 5 positions is huge today, since its about being able to switch and help and play small.

Also, RHJ is 6'7" 218lbs with a 7'1" wingpsan

gordon is 6'9" 220 lbs with a 7'0" wingspan

its not like we are talking minute bol vs mugsy bogues here.

if gordon was a really good offensive player id concede the move, but he isnt. really the only way i even consider this deal is if you make the RHJ's play style means constant injuries argument

220 was Gordon's rookie weight. there is no way he's still 220. Just a side by side comparison of Gordon vs Rondae in matchup and it's clearly. it a 2 lb advantage

I don't think either of them are the weights that Prok listed. RHJ is at least in the 220s.

[treiz]

Joe Harris to Minny for Cole Aldrich & OKC 1st (22nd) ?

I'd do it, mainly to deal this pick and the TOR pick to move up into the lottery. Also Aldrich could be a really useful expiring next year.

[MrDollarBills]

i don't think that two late 1st rounders can move us into the lottery.

[shakendfries]

i don't think that two late 1st rounders can move us into the lottery.

but two late 1st rounders and DMC might at the very least get us into the late lottery for a decent borderline playoff team needing more bodies (especially a team like the Jazz that might be looking for vets to propell them firmly into the playoff hunt)

holding out hope on Dante Exuum hasn't worked out at all...if marks could get into the late lotto fans would have to put faith in either our scouts entirely to knock it out of the park, or Michael Porter Jr falling to wherever the Nets pick lands

[wolves_89]

Joe Harris to Minny for Cole Aldrich & OKC 1st (22nd) ?

I don't see any team giving up a 1st for Joe Harris.

[brook]

Joe Harris to Minny for Cole Aldrich & OKC 1st (22nd) ?

I'd do it, mainly to deal this pick and the TOR pick to move up into the lottery. Also Aldrich could be a really useful expiring next year.

Aldrich have only 2 millions guaranteed for 2018-2019 season.

Maybe we can offer Harris and Zeller for him and OKC pick and open a roster spot.

edit: salaries don't fit. We have to offer Stauskas and Zeller.

[treiz]

i don't think that two late 1st rounders can move us into the lottery.

Can definitely get us into the mid teens territory, I wasn't hoping for the 10th pick, that would be outrageous.

Aldrich have only 2 millions guaranteed for 2018-2019 season.

Maybe we can offer Harris and Zeller for him and OKC pick and open a roster spot.

edit: salaries don't fit. We have to offer Stauskas and Zeller.

Harris is fine, there's a really high possibility he gets offered big money elsewhere and he goes. Whereas we have Stauskas locked in for a few more years, he's more talented and has a higher ceiling than Harris so I'd rather go for that.

[MrDollarBills]

mid teens is definitely a possibility. but what team in the mid teams can afford to trade down?

[TheNetsFan]

mid teens is definitely a possibility. but what team in the mid teams can afford to trade down?

The Toronto pick moves you up from a 2nd pick in the 20s, 5 spots at most. Plus, you'd have to find a willing seller. The likeliest sellers would be teams teams flirting with the tax that want cheap rookie contracts. There's not many of those teams currently in the teens. In fact, many teams in the teens (Clippers, Suns, 76ers, Bulls) already have multiple picks. That makes them even less likely to want to trade down.

[Netaman]

I can't remember any trade up / down involving first-round picks as the primary asset prior to the lottery (or draft day). Why would either side of any deal role the dice on something like that?

If they can get another first round pick for Carroll or Harris, by all means, do it. But it's impossible to project trades up or down now.

Also, I saw someone on twitter say the Nets would consider trading Dinwiddie for a 1st. If so I think that's a big mistake. Not only is he young and good, but if he's truly locked into a 4/$40m as the max we can offer him, that would be a STEAL of a contract. If he won't extend next December, then trade away. If there's another Donovan Mitchell sliding at the draft and he's the price to move up? Again, trade away. But right now there's no incentive to trade him for non-lotto pick.

[treiz]

mid teens is definitely a possibility. but what team in the mid teams can afford to trade down?

Depends on what those teams are looking for, if they're looking at multiple prospects towards the latter end and they might either find it difficult to improve on their current roster due to cap limitations (Detroit and NO) and so need tor resort to draft picks to help improve or teams who are looking for not necessarily a rebuild but a re-tool (Clippers) and try to accumulate as much assets as possible.

[treiz]

I can't remember any trade up / down involving first-round picks as the primary asset prior to the lottery (or draft day). Why would either side of any deal role the dice on something like that?

If they can get another first round pick for Carroll or Harris, by all means, do it. But it's impossible to project trades up or down now.

Also, I saw someone on twitter say the Nets would consider trading Dinwiddie for a 1st. If so I think that's a big mistake. Not only is he young and good, but if he's truly locked into a 4/$40m as the max we can offer him, that would be a STEAL of a contract. If he won't extend next December, then trade away. If there's another Donovan Mitchell sliding at the draft and he's the price to move up? Again, trade away. But right now there's no incentive to trade him for non-lotto pick.

This, if it's for guys who are most likely goners or are not part of the long-term picture then yeah go for it. But if it's for somebody who could potentially be here as our core, it would really have to be for somebody Markinson feels is a generational talent dropping.

[Keith Van Horn]

It's hard to label certain guys on our current squad as untouchables, b/c if SAN called up to inquire about a package of players and picks for Leonard, I'm sure Marks would entertain any scenario.

However, I'd like to imagine that we have 3 guys who they view as "hard-to-imagine" to be involved in any trade package -- D'Angelo, Allen, and Levert. I like Dinwiddie and RHJ but I think if the offer was involving a lotto pick, then Marks wouldn't hesitate.

I can easily see Carroll, Harris, Zeller, etc. being moved to a competitive playoff team who really wants to make a push this year. Obviously the dream would be to get a trade with Cleveland for our pick back, but I won't hold my breath. Minny, Portland, Philly, Miami are a few teams that come to mind when looking to bolster their roster for a strong playoff push this year.

[Keith Van Horn]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybk6kzsg
If Cleveland included the Brooklyn pick, I'd say keep JR at home for the next 3 years (LOL, or wait until he negotiates on a buyout) so he's not around the young guys, get Shump involved with the bench, and pray you hit a homerun with the lotto pick this year and next year. Smith, Crabbe, and Moz would come off the books at the same time.

You'd have a core of DLo, Allen, Levert, RHJ, Okafor, and 1 guaranteed lotto pick with another most-likely lotto pick. We'd still have our pick from the Raptors too.

I know I know, the pick is gone, but Cleveland is dysfunctional as hell right now, and that move could definitely be a vast improvement for them and their chemistry.

[Born_Ready]

Willy Hernagomez wants out of NYK. What would it take to get him, and would the Knix even make that sort of deal with Brooklyn?

[Ror1997]

Willy Hernagomez wants out of NYK. What would it take to get him, and would the Knix even make that sort of deal with Brooklyn?

We have 4 centers on the roster. 2 of which are younger than Willy. All of which play better defense, including Okafor.

I don't see why we would make that trade.

[Born_Ready]

Willy Hernagomez wants out of NYK. What would it take to get him, and would the Knix even make that sort of deal with Brooklyn?

We have 4 centers on the roster. 2 of which are younger than Willy. All of which play better defense, including Okafor.

I don't see why we would make that trade.

Maybe they can buy out Mosgov.

Just kidding. I honestly thought Willy played the 4 spot.

[shakendfries]

mid teens is definitely a possibility. but what team in the mid teams can afford to trade down?

Don't the Suns have like 4 picks in this draft? I'm not sure if it's Phoenix or Denver, but there's a non-Boston team that's stockpiled picks in this draft

[MrDollarBills]

^^not sure

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybk6kzsg
If Cleveland included the Brooklyn pick, I'd say keep JR at home for the next 3 years (LOL, or wait until he negotiates on a buyout) so he's not around the young guys, get Shump involved with the bench, and pray you hit a homerun with the lotto pick this year and next year. Smith, Crabbe, and Moz would come off the books at the same time.

You'd have a core of DLo, Allen, Levert, RHJ, Okafor, and 1 guaranteed lotto pick with another most-likely lotto pick. We'd still have our pick from the Raptors too.

I know I know, the pick is gone, but Cleveland is dysfunctional as hell right now, and that move could definitely be a vast improvement for them and their chemistry.

Cleveland's not doing that deal in a million years and I really don't want any of their dog ass players anywhere near this team

[LKIRNets]

Would you make this deal?


+2nd Round Pick

follow it up wit this.



That opens up playing time.

And potentially this


+ A 2018 1st Pick

We get a 2 guard controlled in case Sauce walks. And we keep Harris.
Hernangomez takes RHJ's spot.
Winslow in Carroll's spot.
Veteran no nonsense leader in Joakim Noah. Pieces to pair wit him next year if a team needs a big.

So.

Allen/Noah/Okafor
Hernangomez//Noah/Okafor
Winslow/Webb/Sauce
Crabbe/Abrines/Sauce/DLo
Dinwiddie/DLo/TJ/Lin

McGruder to the G-League.