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skywalker33 wrote:So, is "being a moron with no coaching skills" considered a problem ??
There are conflicting versions of the 2018 Denver Nuggets, and they both cannot exist at the same time. One, a slow-paced, defensive club that has more in common with the 2014 Memphis Grizzlies than the 2017 Nuggets. The other, a free-wheeling, fast and furious offensive squad that can score on any defense in the NBA.
The Rebel wrote:https://milehighsports.com/the-nuggets-are-caught-between-two-conflicting-styles/There are conflicting versions of the 2018 Denver Nuggets, and they both cannot exist at the same time. One, a slow-paced, defensive club that has more in common with the 2014 Memphis Grizzlies than the 2017 Nuggets. The other, a free-wheeling, fast and furious offensive squad that can score on any defense in the NBA.
he makes a strong point about the Nuggets season, after Mares stated a similar point on the radio the other day.
The Nuggets have been trying to play 2 styles and that is why it is such a mess. In some ways Apples is right, Malone is the problem, although Chandler has more than his share of the blame in the as well, Malone is trying to force these guys into what he wants instead of what they are. That is why they benched Varied, that is why Plumlee plays so much, and that is why our offense is so horrible.
These guys are being asked for constant effort on both ends of the court for too many minutes, you cannot have guys running constantly and banging the crap out of themselves and expect them to hold up physically and mentally.
This writer basically is calling out the front office and Malone for being idiots and trying to force guys into a wrong system at both ends. It is time to fire Malone and let these young guys play a style that fits them.
The Rebel wrote:https://milehighsports.com/the-nuggets-are-caught-between-two-conflicting-styles/There are conflicting versions of the 2018 Denver Nuggets, and they both cannot exist at the same time. One, a slow-paced, defensive club that has more in common with the 2014 Memphis Grizzlies than the 2017 Nuggets. The other, a free-wheeling, fast and furious offensive squad that can score on any defense in the NBA.
he makes a strong point about the Nuggets season, after Mares stated a similar point on the radio the other day.
The Nuggets have been trying to play 2 styles and that is why it is such a mess. In some ways Apples is right, Malone is the problem, although Chandler has more than his share of the blame in the as well, Malone is trying to force these guys into what he wants instead of what they are. That is why they benched Varied, that is why Plumlee plays so much, and that is why our offense is so horrible.
These guys are being asked for constant effort on both ends of the court for too many minutes, you cannot have guys running constantly and banging the crap out of themselves and expect them to hold up physically and mentally.
This writer basically is calling out the front office and Malone for being idiots and trying to force guys into a wrong system at both ends. It is time to fire Malone and let these young guys play a style that fits them.
Apples123 wrote:The Rebel wrote:https://milehighsports.com/the-nuggets-are-caught-between-two-conflicting-styles/There are conflicting versions of the 2018 Denver Nuggets, and they both cannot exist at the same time. One, a slow-paced, defensive club that has more in common with the 2014 Memphis Grizzlies than the 2017 Nuggets. The other, a free-wheeling, fast and furious offensive squad that can score on any defense in the NBA.
he makes a strong point about the Nuggets season, after Mares stated a similar point on the radio the other day.
The Nuggets have been trying to play 2 styles and that is why it is such a mess. In some ways Apples is right, Malone is the problem, although Chandler has more than his share of the blame in the as well, Malone is trying to force these guys into what he wants instead of what they are. That is why they benched Varied, that is why Plumlee plays so much, and that is why our offense is so horrible.
These guys are being asked for constant effort on both ends of the court for too many minutes, you cannot have guys running constantly and banging the crap out of themselves and expect them to hold up physically and mentally.
This writer basically is calling out the front office and Malone for being idiots and trying to force guys into a wrong system at both ends. It is time to fire Malone and let these young guys play a style that fits them.
I am starting to lose patience with you and respect with you for how you equivocate and end up criticizing the players. Stop being afraid of criticizing Malone and holding Malone accountable.
I already explained that Wilson is just tired and probably a bit depressed with Malone. You need to understand that Chandler has already been through one abusive, abrasive, ****, piece of **** coach in George Karl who was a huge piece of **** and arbitrarily benched/marginalized JaVale. Then Malone comes in and pulls the same ****: he arbitrarily removes Nurkic, Faried, and Mudiay from the rotation, he plays games with Jokic, he is harsh with the players, he pits players against each other, his philosophy is WRONG, etc. Chandler is the ONLY starter to not have been injured in-game: did you notice Jokic and Gary getting knocks/hurt tonight? Those knocks/injuries are because Malone creates and brings dysfunction. So you are criticizing the one player who seems to overtly realize that Malone is full of **** when he's also the only starter who hasn't been injured: maybe he doesn't want to commit to Malone's bad system, did you ever think of that? Malone is sabotaging the team and Chandler is probably upset and/or depressed about it.
Wilson is a GREAT player and is one of the most well-liked people in the locker room, so I'm tired of hearing criticism of him or of any player when the problem is 100% Malone. That he seems tired and a bit depressed is a bellwether for how Malone is sabotaging and limiting the/this team, and I wouldn't be surprised if other players are upset about it too. Stop equivocating, stop prevaricating, stop being afraid of criticizing Malone and of holding Malone accountable. #FIREMALONE
SoCalNuggsFan wrote:I don’t think he’s the worst coach ever. He just makes some really dumb in game decisions, like not calling that timeout or playing lineups that numbers and the eye test tell you just don’t work.
But Harris, Murray, Jokic and Barton have all improved as players drastically over his tenure. You can throw lyles in there too. Went from benched in Utah to a possible core piece here. Gotta give some of that credit to Malone, unless we’re just gonna blame everything bad on him and credit everything good to everyone but him.
NuggetsWY wrote:SoCalNuggsFan wrote:I don’t think he’s the worst coach ever. He just makes some really dumb in game decisions, like not calling that timeout or playing lineups that numbers and the eye test tell you just don’t work.
But Harris, Murray, Jokic and Barton have all improved as players drastically over his tenure. You can throw lyles in there too. Went from benched in Utah to a possible core piece here. Gotta give some of that credit to Malone, unless we’re just gonna blame everything bad on him and credit everything good to everyone but him.
Doesn't he remind you of a toddler playing with his toys, each day he has a new favorite. Last year he had a great many different lineups and we more or less accepted it because of lots of injuries. This year we've had almost as many lineups but without very many injuries. Either he changes his mind every day or he just can't figure out how to use his players. This from the same coach that said in his first year, "I won't adjust my lineup just because of matchups." What was last night's starting lineup? Starting Arthur because he was a better matchup against Aldridge. I love Arthur but he's barely spent any time on the court and you know he hasn't been practicing with the starters, but Malone decided to play Arthur as a starter when he clearly wasn't ready physically, much less in sync with the rest of his team.
NuggetsWY wrote:Apples123 wrote:The Rebel wrote:https://milehighsports.com/the-nuggets-are-caught-between-two-conflicting-styles/
he makes a strong point about the Nuggets season, after Mares stated a similar point on the radio the other day.
The Nuggets have been trying to play 2 styles and that is why it is such a mess. In some ways Apples is right, Malone is the problem, although Chandler has more than his share of the blame in the as well, Malone is trying to force these guys into what he wants instead of what they are. That is why they benched Varied, that is why Plumlee plays so much, and that is why our offense is so horrible.
These guys are being asked for constant effort on both ends of the court for too many minutes, you cannot have guys running constantly and banging the crap out of themselves and expect them to hold up physically and mentally.
This writer basically is calling out the front office and Malone for being idiots and trying to force guys into a wrong system at both ends. It is time to fire Malone and let these young guys play a style that fits them.
I am starting to lose patience with you and respect with you for how you equivocate and end up criticizing the players. Stop being afraid of criticizing Malone and holding Malone accountable.
I already explained that Wilson is just tired and probably a bit depressed with Malone. You need to understand that Chandler has already been through one abusive, abrasive, ****, piece of **** coach in George Karl who was a huge piece of **** and arbitrarily benched/marginalized JaVale. Then Malone comes in and pulls the same ****: he arbitrarily removes Nurkic, Faried, and Mudiay from the rotation, he plays games with Jokic, he is harsh with the players, he pits players against each other, his philosophy is WRONG, etc. Chandler is the ONLY starter to not have been injured in-game: did you notice Jokic and Gary getting knocks/hurt tonight? Those knocks/injuries are because Malone creates and brings dysfunction. So you are criticizing the one player who seems to overtly realize that Malone is full of **** when he's also the only starter who hasn't been injured: maybe he doesn't want to commit to Malone's bad system, did you ever think of that? Malone is sabotaging the team and Chandler is probably upset and/or depressed about it.
Wilson is a GREAT player and is one of the most well-liked people in the locker room, so I'm tired of hearing criticism of him or of any player when the problem is 100% Malone. That he seems tired and a bit depressed is a bellwether for how Malone is sabotaging and limiting the/this team, and I wouldn't be surprised if other players are upset about it too. Stop equivocating, stop prevaricating, stop being afraid of criticizing Malone and of holding Malone accountable. #FIREMALONE
Clearly you do not read what anyone else says and you form your opinions of others based on what you think they are saying. You are not the only one frustrated with Malone. Rebel (as well as some others including myself) have both clearly stated that Malone is not doing an adequate job. Unlike yourself, we also acknowledge that Malone isn't the only problem the Nuggets have.
Chandler has been a favorite of several here, but not this year. Why he is struggling can be debated and only the true insiders on the Nuggets probably know the truth. However, his stats say this is not a good year for him. You are beginning to sound like a petulant younger brother of Malone and you are becoming rather tiring.
Apples123 wrote:NuggetsWY wrote:Apples123 wrote:I am starting to lose patience with you and respect with you for how you equivocate and end up criticizing the players. Stop being afraid of criticizing Malone and holding Malone accountable.
I already explained that Wilson is just tired and probably a bit depressed with Malone. You need to understand that Chandler has already been through one abusive, abrasive, ****, piece of **** coach in George Karl who was a huge piece of **** and arbitrarily benched/marginalized JaVale. Then Malone comes in and pulls the same ****: he arbitrarily removes Nurkic, Faried, and Mudiay from the rotation, he plays games with Jokic, he is harsh with the players, he pits players against each other, his philosophy is WRONG, etc. Chandler is the ONLY starter to not have been injured in-game: did you notice Jokic and Gary getting knocks/hurt tonight? Those knocks/injuries are because Malone creates and brings dysfunction. So you are criticizing the one player who seems to overtly realize that Malone is full of **** when he's also the only starter who hasn't been injured: maybe he doesn't want to commit to Malone's bad system, did you ever think of that? Malone is sabotaging the team and Chandler is probably upset and/or depressed about it.
Wilson is a GREAT player and is one of the most well-liked people in the locker room, so I'm tired of hearing criticism of him or of any player when the problem is 100% Malone. That he seems tired and a bit depressed is a bellwether for how Malone is sabotaging and limiting the/this team, and I wouldn't be surprised if other players are upset about it too. Stop equivocating, stop prevaricating, stop being afraid of criticizing Malone and of holding Malone accountable. #FIREMALONE
Clearly you do not read what anyone else says and you form your opinions of others based on what you think they are saying. You are not the only one frustrated with Malone. Rebel (as well as some others including myself) have both clearly stated that Malone is not doing an adequate job. Unlike yourself, we also acknowledge that Malone isn't the only problem the Nuggets have.
Chandler has been a favorite of several here, but not this year. Why he is struggling can be debated and only the true insiders on the Nuggets probably know the truth. However, his stats say this is not a good year for him. You are beginning to sound like a petulant younger brother of Malone and you are becoming rather tiring.
1. You're wrong. He is the ONLY problem the Nuggets have, you're just afraid to call him out and hold him accountable. You make weak and generic criticism of him and then prevaricate to swing back to the players with criticism that is inaccurate, unfair, and doesn't withstand scrutiny.
2. I explained Chandler's "struggles" (LMAO...). To me he–along with everybody else–is tired of Malone and realizes that playing for Malone gets you nowhere and even injured. You NEED to keep in mind that he has already played for one abrasive, abusive piece of **** in George Karl, only for him (Karl) to be replaced by another in Michael Malone who does the same ****. Chandler is a great player and is well liked in the locker room. Malone treats Faried and Mudiay the same way George Karl treated JaVale, can you even dispute this?
3. That is literal nonsense I am pretty much the only person on here that I have seen so far try to hold Malone accountable in a significant way. I am the only person on here who makes significant criticism of Malone that indicts him as the SOLE cause of the Nuggets' problems (ON the court at least, because everyone knows that the Kroenke family are scumbags). I think you are trying to gaslight me at this point because you have no answer to what I'm saying.
BONUS It's disappointing to see people say, "If we 'Fire Malone,' who will we hire?" when the issue with the Nuggets is that they are hiring the same coach over and over again:
George Karl: Abrasive, abusive ****. Was VERY unfair to JaVale, many players have noted what an **** he is.
Brian Shaw: Traditional, "old-school," "defense-first" coach. Compared to PHIL JACKSON of all people... no comment.
Michael Malone: Abrasive, abusive ****. Tough-ass, "defense-first" coach. Is biased against Nurkic, Faried, and Mudiay, seems to hate Jokic, does not trust his own players. Has a losing and "defense-first" philosophy that is too exacting to follow and also results in injury problems (Jokic, Harris, Plumlee, Millsap, Murray knocks, Barton knocks, Barton & Jokic being overplayed, etc.). Uses his own players as red herrings/smokescreens to deflect criticism (the Plumlee "blogger" comment, etc.) Etc... I have a lot more to say about this abrasive and abusive piece of ****.
Why can't we hire a "players' coach" that people/the players will enjoy being around and playing for? Why can't we hire a "nice coach" who will play to and through the players' strengths instead of a tough-ass/taskmaster who thinks "playing tough, exacting 'defense'" and "posting up!!!" all the time will actually bring happiness/success and not cause injuries? Michael Malone is the worst coach in the league, he needs to be fired NOW. #FIREMALONE
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
skywalker33 wrote:Apples123 wrote:NuggetsWY wrote:Clearly you do not read what anyone else says and you form your opinions of others based on what you think they are saying. You are not the only one frustrated with Malone. Rebel (as well as some others including myself) have both clearly stated that Malone is not doing an adequate job. Unlike yourself, we also acknowledge that Malone isn't the only problem the Nuggets have.
Chandler has been a favorite of several here, but not this year. Why he is struggling can be debated and only the true insiders on the Nuggets probably know the truth. However, his stats say this is not a good year for him. You are beginning to sound like a petulant younger brother of Malone and you are becoming rather tiring.
1. You're wrong. He is the ONLY problem the Nuggets have, you're just afraid to call him out and hold him accountable. You make weak and generic criticism of him and then prevaricate to swing back to the players with criticism that is inaccurate, unfair, and doesn't withstand scrutiny.
2. I explained Chandler's "struggles" (LMAO...). To me he–along with everybody else–is tired of Malone and realizes that playing for Malone gets you nowhere and even injured. You NEED to keep in mind that he has already played for one abrasive, abusive piece of **** in George Karl, only for him (Karl) to be replaced by another in Michael Malone who does the same ****. Chandler is a great player and is well liked in the locker room. Malone treats Faried and Mudiay the same way George Karl treated JaVale, can you even dispute this?
3. That is literal nonsense I am pretty much the only person on here that I have seen so far try to hold Malone accountable in a significant way. I am the only person on here who makes significant criticism of Malone that indicts him as the SOLE cause of the Nuggets' problems (ON the court at least, because everyone knows that the Kroenke family are scumbags). I think you are trying to gaslight me at this point because you have no answer to what I'm saying.
BONUS It's disappointing to see people say, "If we 'Fire Malone,' who will we hire?" when the issue with the Nuggets is that they are hiring the same coach over and over again:
George Karl: Abrasive, abusive ****. Was VERY unfair to JaVale, many players have noted what an **** he is.
Brian Shaw: Traditional, "old-school," "defense-first" coach. Compared to PHIL JACKSON of all people... no comment.
Michael Malone: Abrasive, abusive ****. Tough-ass, "defense-first" coach. Is biased against Nurkic, Faried, and Mudiay, seems to hate Jokic, does not trust his own players. Has a losing and "defense-first" philosophy that is too exacting to follow and also results in injury problems (Jokic, Harris, Plumlee, Millsap, Murray knocks, Barton knocks, Barton & Jokic being overplayed, etc.). Uses his own players as red herrings/smokescreens to deflect criticism (the Plumlee "blogger" comment, etc.) Etc... I have a lot more to say about this abrasive and abusive piece of ****.
Why can't we hire a "players' coach" that people/the players will enjoy being around and playing for? Why can't we hire a "nice coach" who will play to and through the players' strengths instead of a tough-ass/taskmaster who thinks "playing tough, exacting 'defense'" and "posting up!!!" all the time will actually bring happiness/success and not cause injuries? Michael Malone is the worst coach in the league, he needs to be fired NOW. #FIREMALONE
Broken record as usual, you're right and EVERYONE else is wrong....how quaintly cute...and boring !!! While I am not a fan of Malone's coaching, gotta give the guy credit for developing Harris, Murray, Lyles, even Barton and Jokic to some extent.
And if I recall, Malone has been known as a a "player's coach", the relationships he built at SAC was very well documented. You speak out of your arse as usually, pathetic IMO
And how does a GREAT player only average only 9ppg in 30mpg and be called GREAT ??? How stupid is that ??
I'm still just wondering what your childhood drama is ?
Apples123 wrote:skywalker33 wrote:Apples123 wrote:
1. You're wrong. He is the ONLY problem the Nuggets have, you're just afraid to call him out and hold him accountable. You make weak and generic criticism of him and then prevaricate to swing back to the players with criticism that is inaccurate, unfair, and doesn't withstand scrutiny.
2. I explained Chandler's "struggles" (LMAO...). To me he–along with everybody else–is tired of Malone and realizes that playing for Malone gets you nowhere and even injured. You NEED to keep in mind that he has already played for one abrasive, abusive piece of **** in George Karl, only for him (Karl) to be replaced by another in Michael Malone who does the same ****. Chandler is a great player and is well liked in the locker room. Malone treats Faried and Mudiay the same way George Karl treated JaVale, can you even dispute this?
3. That is literal nonsense I am pretty much the only person on here that I have seen so far try to hold Malone accountable in a significant way. I am the only person on here who makes significant criticism of Malone that indicts him as the SOLE cause of the Nuggets' problems (ON the court at least, because everyone knows that the Kroenke family are scumbags). I think you are trying to gaslight me at this point because you have no answer to what I'm saying.
BONUS It's disappointing to see people say, "If we 'Fire Malone,' who will we hire?" when the issue with the Nuggets is that they are hiring the same coach over and over again:
George Karl: Abrasive, abusive ****. Was VERY unfair to JaVale, many players have noted what an **** he is.
Brian Shaw: Traditional, "old-school," "defense-first" coach. Compared to PHIL JACKSON of all people... no comment.
Michael Malone: Abrasive, abusive ****. Tough-ass, "defense-first" coach. Is biased against Nurkic, Faried, and Mudiay, seems to hate Jokic, does not trust his own players. Has a losing and "defense-first" philosophy that is too exacting to follow and also results in injury problems (Jokic, Harris, Plumlee, Millsap, Murray knocks, Barton knocks, Barton & Jokic being overplayed, etc.). Uses his own players as red herrings/smokescreens to deflect criticism (the Plumlee "blogger" comment, etc.) Etc... I have a lot more to say about this abrasive and abusive piece of ****.
Why can't we hire a "players' coach" that people/the players will enjoy being around and playing for? Why can't we hire a "nice coach" who will play to and through the players' strengths instead of a tough-ass/taskmaster who thinks "playing tough, exacting 'defense'" and "posting up!!!" all the time will actually bring happiness/success and not cause injuries? Michael Malone is the worst coach in the league, he needs to be fired NOW. #FIREMALONE
Broken record as usual, you're right and EVERYONE else is wrong....how quaintly cute...and boring !!! While I am not a fan of Malone's coaching, gotta give the guy credit for developing Harris, Murray, Lyles, even Barton and Jokic to some extent.
And if I recall, Malone has been known as a a "player's coach", the relationships he built at SAC was very well documented. You speak out of your arse as usually, pathetic IMO
And how does a GREAT player only average only 9ppg in 30mpg and be called GREAT ??? How stupid is that ??
I'm still just wondering what your childhood drama is ?
Nothing you say withstands scrutiny/interrogation in a debate. All of those players have developed IN SPITE OF MICHAEL MALONE, not because of him.
As proof, why don't you ask Nurkic what he thinks of Malone as a "players' coach"? Why don't you ask Nurkic about Malone as a "player development coach"? Malone-apologists saying that Malone is a "players' coach," "player development coach," etc. does not withstand scrutiny/interrogation when that false alibi is confronted with facts/factual accounts:
And by the way, he does this to other players too. Malone doesn't trust his players (putting it mildly...) and for that alone he should be fired. #FIREMALONE
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
psimanic1 wrote:So, LAC trade best player they have for nothing and Kroenke doesn't have balls to fire Malone![]()
Apples123 wrote:The Rebel wrote:https://milehighsports.com/the-nuggets-are-caught-between-two-conflicting-styles/There are conflicting versions of the 2018 Denver Nuggets, and they both cannot exist at the same time. One, a slow-paced, defensive club that has more in common with the 2014 Memphis Grizzlies than the 2017 Nuggets. The other, a free-wheeling, fast and furious offensive squad that can score on any defense in the NBA.
he makes a strong point about the Nuggets season, after Mares stated a similar point on the radio the other day.
The Nuggets have been trying to play 2 styles and that is why it is such a mess. In some ways Apples is right, Malone is the problem, although Chandler has more than his share of the blame in the as well, Malone is trying to force these guys into what he wants instead of what they are. That is why they benched Varied, that is why Plumlee plays so much, and that is why our offense is so horrible.
These guys are being asked for constant effort on both ends of the court for too many minutes, you cannot have guys running constantly and banging the crap out of themselves and expect them to hold up physically and mentally.
This writer basically is calling out the front office and Malone for being idiots and trying to force guys into a wrong system at both ends. It is time to fire Malone and let these young guys play a style that fits them.
I am starting to lose patience with you and respect with you for how you equivocate and end up criticizing the players. Stop being afraid of criticizing Malone and holding Malone accountable.
Apples123 wrote:I already explained that Wilson is just tired and probably a bit depressed with Malone. You need to understand that Chandler has already been through one abusive, abrasive, ****, piece of **** coach in George Karl who was a huge piece of **** and arbitrarily benched/marginalized JaVale. Then Malone comes in and pulls the same ****: he arbitrarily removes Nurkic, Faried, and Mudiay from the rotation, he plays games with Jokic, he is harsh with the players, he pits players against each other, his philosophy is WRONG, etc. Chandler is the ONLY starter to not have been injured in-game: did you notice Jokic and Gary getting knocks/hurt tonight? Those knocks/injuries are because Malone creates and brings dysfunction. So you are criticizing the one player who seems to overtly realize that Malone is full of **** when he's also the only starter who hasn't been injured: maybe he doesn't want to commit to Malone's bad system, did you ever think of that? Malone is sabotaging the team and Chandler is probably upset and/or depressed about it.
Wilson is a GREAT player and is one of the most well-liked people in the locker room, so I'm tired of hearing criticism of him or of any player when the problem is 100% Malone. That he seems tired and a bit depressed is a bellwether for how Malone is sabotaging and limiting the/this team, and I wouldn't be surprised if other players are upset about it too. Stop equivocating, stop prevaricating, stop being afraid of criticizing Malone and of holding Malone accountable. #FIREMALONE
NuggetsWY wrote:https://milehighsports.com/giving-up-control-michael-malone-better-coach/
Article points out that the Nuggets' offense has picked up and improved and gotten better and ... and ... and ... since Malone stopped calling so many plays from the sidelines.How many times have our posters said, "This new offense sucks" or something along those lines?
What made the Nuggets the best offense last year? Less Malone! It took him until February to figure this out?
Guess losing one assistant coach made a big difference.
Now, if only he could find a great defensive assistant coach; maybe the Nuggets can vault over a few teams - this year even.
The Nuggets are the league’s best offense since Jan. 21 – the day Michael Malone said he’d call less plays to try and return Denver offense to last year’s form. Nuggets are scoring 113.9 points per 100 over its past 8 games. They scored a league-best 113.3 after Dec 15 last year.
In his last 5 games Nikola Jokic is averaging 20ppg/11.8reb/7.8ast on 50/47/89 shooting splits along with 1 SPG