Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas

[brook]

Would you make this deal?


+2nd Round Pick

follow it up wit this.



That opens up playing time.

And potentially this


+ A 2018 1st Pick

We get a 2 guard controlled in case Sauce walks. And we keep Harris.
Hernangomez takes RHJ's spot.
Winslow in Carroll's spot.
Veteran no nonsense leader in Joakim Noah. Pieces to pair wit him next year if a team needs a big.

So.

Allen/Noah/Okafor
Hernangomez//Noah/Okafor
Winslow/Webb/Sauce
Crabbe/Abrines/Sauce/DLo
Dinwiddie/DLo/TJ/Lin

McGruder to the G-League.

Of course I would make that trade with Knicks, but why they must take 2 millions more on salary, and swap a young player like Hernangomez, who makes minimum salary to take Zeller?

Trade with Heat. I say no. We don't need Johnson anymore with that horrendous contract.

And no. I don't like Abrines and I don't give away RHJ for a low pick. Also, OKC don't have 2018 first pick, that pick was traded to Minnesota.

ps: Hernangomez is a center, not a PF.

[Keith Van Horn]

I'd probably do the Knicks trade and then banish Noah to the GLeague LOL. Wouldn't want him near the team. Done with cancerous players.

And with Crabbe on the books, not sure about taking Ty Johnson either. For me it'd be one or the other. Not sure how great we'd look in 3 years anyway coming out of those contracts. Have we really developed and moved the needle by 2020?

Also do the Thunder have their 2018 1st? I thought Minny owned it?

[LKIRNets]

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Of course I would make that trade with Knicks, but why they must take 2 millions more on salary, and swap a young player like Hernangomez, who makes minimum salary to take Zeller?

Trade with Heat. I say no. We don't need Johnson anymore with that horrendous contract.

And no. I don't like Abrines and I don't give away RHJ for a low pick. Also, OKC don't have 2018 first pick, that pick was traded to Minnesota.

ps: Hernangomez is a center, not a PF.

Hernangomez demanded to be traded today. He wants PT. Noah is about to punch his coach. It's simply a swap for less trouble for both teams.

Johnson has no horrendous contract. It's 18M and 19M. And we add talent in him, McGruder and Winslow who has the highest upside in the deal.

So you're paying Rondae what we pay Dinwiddie in 2018-19?

Hernangomez is a PF, a potential raw stretch 4. He's not a real C. Has a face up game. Look if I can get rid of Mozgov's contract, I'd think about it.

[Keith Van Horn]

^^not sure

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybk6kzsg
If Cleveland included the Brooklyn pick, I'd say keep JR at home for the next 3 years (LOL, or wait until he negotiates on a buyout) so he's not around the young guys, get Shump involved with the bench, and pray you hit a homerun with the lotto pick this year and next year. Smith, Crabbe, and Moz would come off the books at the same time.

You'd have a core of DLo, Allen, Levert, RHJ, Okafor, and 1 guaranteed lotto pick with another most-likely lotto pick. We'd still have our pick from the Raptors too.

I know I know, the pick is gone, but Cleveland is dysfunctional as hell right now, and that move could definitely be a vast improvement for them and their chemistry.

Cleveland's not doing that deal in a million years and I really don't want any of their dog ass players anywhere near this team

yeah I read they want "Paul George" type talent for that 1st, so they can forget it. They're going to need a great player when the walls continue to crumble and Lebron jumps ship.

[Born_Ready]

Link was posted on the GB.

https://www.netsdaily.com/2018/2/5/16974596/woj-nets-likely-to-keep-gathering-assets-thinks-harris-could-get-maybe-a-second

If they could get a first for Dinwiddie, I still don't know if it's worth it. I think the team has too much vested in him to throw him away for a draft pick with no guarantee to develop. Whereas, you already have seen the development of Dinwiddie.

[LKIRNets]

Link was posted on the GB.

https://www.netsdaily.com/2018/2/5/16974596/woj-nets-likely-to-keep-gathering-assets-thinks-harris-could-get-maybe-a-second

If they could get a first for Dinwiddie, I still don't know if it's worth it. I think the team has too much vested in him to throw him away for a draft pick with no guarantee to develop. Whereas, you already have seen the development of Dinwiddie.

Which means Sean Marks has his eye on 2020.

[brook]

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Of course I would make that trade with Knicks, but why they must take 2 millions more on salary, and swap a young player like Hernangomez, who makes minimum salary to take Zeller?

Trade with Heat. I say no. We don't need Johnson anymore with that horrendous contract.

And no. I don't like Abrines and I don't give away RHJ for a low pick. Also, OKC don't have 2018 first pick, that pick was traded to Minnesota.

ps: Hernangomez is a center, not a PF.

Hernangomez demanded to be traded today. He wants PT. Noah is about to punch his coach. It's simply a swap for less trouble for both teams.

Johnson has no horrendous contract. It's 18M and 19M. And we add talent in him, McGruder and Winslow who has the highest upside in the deal.

So you're paying Rondae what we pay Dinwiddie in 2018-19?

Hernangomez is a PF, a potential raw stretch 4. He's not a real C. Has a face up game. Look if I can get rid of Mozgov's contract, I'd think about it.

No. Hernangomez is a C, and I never saw him stretch the floor. Never...
If I think again, I'm not sure about this trade. Willy demanded a trade because he's not playing. But we already have Allen and Okafor. Noah and Hernangomez can bring problems here, Mozgov and Zeller don't.

We need Johnson when we offer that contract to him. Now, with Russell, Levert and Dinwiddie, and Lin next year who makes another 12 millions, I'd pass. 19 millions/year per 2 years are a lot of money. I like Winslow, but the price is very high. Also we have to cut two guys, Zeller and Acy I think.

Yeah I paying Rondae. He is an awesome player. I don't trade him for a low pick and a Stauskas-like guy like Abrines, and then gave that money to Tyler Johnson.

To take that OKC pick, I posted a trade today: Stauskas and Zeller for Aldrich + pick.

[LKIRNets]

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Of course I would make that trade with Knicks, but why they must take 2 millions more on salary, and swap a young player like Hernangomez, who makes minimum salary to take Zeller?

Trade with Heat. I say no. We don't need Johnson anymore with that horrendous contract.

And no. I don't like Abrines and I don't give away RHJ for a low pick. Also, OKC don't have 2018 first pick, that pick was traded to Minnesota.

ps: Hernangomez is a center, not a PF.

Hernangomez demanded to be traded today. He wants PT. Noah is about to punch his coach. It's simply a swap for less trouble for both teams.

Johnson has no horrendous contract. It's 18M and 19M. And we add talent in him, McGruder and Winslow who has the highest upside in the deal.

So you're paying Rondae what we pay Dinwiddie in 2018-19?

Hernangomez is a PF, a potential raw stretch 4. He's not a real C. Has a face up game. Look if I can get rid of Mozgov's contract, I'd think about it.

No. Hernangomez is a C, and I never saw him stretch the floor. Never...
If I think again, I'm not sure about this trade. Willy demanded a trade because he's not playing. But we already have Allen and Okafor. Noah and Hernangomez can bring problems here, Mozgov and Zeller don't.

We need Johnson when we offer that contract to him. Now, with Russell, Levert and Dinwiddie, and Lin next year who makes another 12 millions, I'd pass. 19 millions/year per 2 years are a lot of money. I like Winslow, but the price is very high. Also we have to cut two guys, Zeller and Acy I think.

Yeah I paying Rondae. He is an awesome player. I don't trade him for a low pick and a Stauskas-like guy like Abrines, and then gave that money to Tyler Johnson.

To take that OKC pick, I posted a trade today: Stauskas and Zeller for Aldrich + pick.

What problems would he bring. We're in the 2nd half of the season. He'd get PT if additional moves are made.

The goal is 2020. Our job is to assemble assets to make FA want to come here. Johnson returns next season, would give us depth in the guard position and actual consistent talent.

You're paying Rondae $13M per season? Johnson is here up to 2020. He adds 3 point shooting in Atkinson's system. If Knick deal happens Hernangomez gets his PT at PF. While we swing Rondae for an asset. These are all hypotheticals.

[MGrand15]

Woj is definitely plugged into the Nets. Kind of concerning to hear "maybe" a 2nd for Joe Harris and that any 1st round pick puts Dinwiddie on the table. That's not being made up.

[brook]

Hernangomez demanded to be traded today. He wants PT. Noah is about to punch his coach. It's simply a swap for less trouble for both teams.

Johnson has no horrendous contract. It's 18M and 19M. And we add talent in him, McGruder and Winslow who has the highest upside in the deal.

So you're paying Rondae what we pay Dinwiddie in 2018-19?

Hernangomez is a PF, a potential raw stretch 4. He's not a real C. Has a face up game. Look if I can get rid of Mozgov's contract, I'd think about it.

No. Hernangomez is a C, and I never saw him stretch the floor. Never...
If I think again, I'm not sure about this trade. Willy demanded a trade because he's not playing. But we already have Allen and Okafor. Noah and Hernangomez can bring problems here, Mozgov and Zeller don't.

We need Johnson when we offer that contract to him. Now, with Russell, Levert and Dinwiddie, and Lin next year who makes another 12 millions, I'd pass. 19 millions/year per 2 years are a lot of money. I like Winslow, but the price is very high. Also we have to cut two guys, Zeller and Acy I think.

Yeah I paying Rondae. He is an awesome player. I don't trade him for a low pick and a Stauskas-like guy like Abrines, and then gave that money to Tyler Johnson.

To take that OKC pick, I posted a trade today: Stauskas and Zeller for Aldrich + pick.

What problems would he bring. We're in the 2nd half of the season. He'd get PT if additional moves are made.

The goal is 2020. Our job is to assemble assets to make FA want to come here. Johnson returns next season, would give us depth in the guard position and actual consistent talent.

You're paying Rondae $13M per season? Johnson is here up to 2020. He adds 3 point shooting in Atkinson's system. If Knick deal happens Hernangomez gets his PT at PF. While we swing Rondae for an asset. These are all hypotheticals.

Yeah, I prefer to give 13M to a two player like Rondae, even 15M. He's our PF, instead to give 19M to Johnson, when we have a pletora of guards.
And again, Hernangomez don't play PF, you don't say he can play PF only for support your fantatrades.

[LKIRNets]

No. Hernangomez is a C, and I never saw him stretch the floor. Never...
If I think again, I'm not sure about this trade. Willy demanded a trade because he's not playing. But we already have Allen and Okafor. Noah and Hernangomez can bring problems here, Mozgov and Zeller don't.

We need Johnson when we offer that contract to him. Now, with Russell, Levert and Dinwiddie, and Lin next year who makes another 12 millions, I'd pass. 19 millions/year per 2 years are a lot of money. I like Winslow, but the price is very high. Also we have to cut two guys, Zeller and Acy I think.

Yeah I paying Rondae. He is an awesome player. I don't trade him for a low pick and a Stauskas-like guy like Abrines, and then gave that money to Tyler Johnson.

To take that OKC pick, I posted a trade today: Stauskas and Zeller for Aldrich + pick.

What problems would he bring. We're in the 2nd half of the season. He'd get PT if additional moves are made.

The goal is 2020. Our job is to assemble assets to make FA want to come here. Johnson returns next season, would give us depth in the guard position and actual consistent talent.

You're paying Rondae $13M per season? Johnson is here up to 2020. He adds 3 point shooting in Atkinson's system. If Knick deal happens Hernangomez gets his PT at PF. While we swing Rondae for an asset. These are all hypotheticals.

Yeah, I prefer to give 13M to a two player like Rondae, even 15M. He's our PF, instead to give 19M to Johnson, when we have a pletora of guards.
And again, Hernangomez don't play PF, you don't say he can play PF only for support your fantatrades.

And how you expect to sign FAs for 2020?

[LKIRNets]

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[Netaman]

Ok, I know I'm the first person to hate on trading Dinwiddie. That said, here's something we'd probably need to consider, especially if there's a pick coming back as well.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd4pncnj

[IceManBK1]

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RHJ+Staukas+2nd rounder for Aaron Gordan..we need bigger PF and above the rim player.

[Prokorov]

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Of course I would make that trade with Knicks, but why they must take 2 millions more on salary, and swap a young player like Hernangomez, who makes minimum salary to take Zeller?

Trade with Heat. I say no. We don't need Johnson anymore with that horrendous contract.

And no. I don't like Abrines and I don't give away RHJ for a low pick. Also, OKC don't have 2018 first pick, that pick was traded to Minnesota.

ps: Hernangomez is a center, not a PF.

Hernangomez demanded to be traded today. He wants PT. Noah is about to punch his coach. It's simply a swap for less trouble for both teams.

Johnson has no horrendous contract. It's 18M and 19M. And we add talent in him, McGruder and Winslow who has the highest upside in the deal.

So you're paying Rondae what we pay Dinwiddie in 2018-19?

Hernangomez is a PF, a potential raw stretch 4. He's not a real C. Has a face up game. Look if I can get rid of Mozgov's contract, I'd think about it.

1) Tyler Johnson at 19 million a year is a really bad contract. better then crabbe? sure maybe... but its an awful contract. And we now have a huge logjam at combo gaurd, we dont need johnson like we did when we first made that offer. only thing that really makes me think about it is that carrolles deal runs longer but i still say no since i think we can dump carroll for salary relief and im not a big justice winslow guy to even it out - NOOO to that deal

2) LOVE hernangomez but dont see him as a PF. Would love him as our starting or backup center with allen. and salary wise noah isnt as bad as mozgov. YES to that deal

3) RHJ for abrines + first to me us turrible. assuming OKC did have their pick it would be an awful pick and that with abrines isnt close to worth the value. I VOMIT on this trade offer

[Prokorov]

Woj is definitely plugged into the Nets. Kind of concerning to hear "maybe" a 2nd for Joe Harris and that any 1st round pick puts Dinwiddie on the table. That's not being made up.

id be happy with both of those deals. i love harris and dinwiddie but cant see paying either in our situation and a 1st/second gets us 2 guys cost controlled for another 3-4 years

[Prokorov]

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RHJ+Staukas+2nd rounder for Aaron Gordan..we need bigger PF and above the rim player.

gordon isnt really bigger.

gordon is 6'7" 220 with 7 foot wingspan
RHJ is 6'7" 218 with 7 foot 1 inc wingspan

RHJ is twice as good defending bigs.

MAgic would need to give me gordon + a first for RHJ

[JoseRizal]

If I were Marks, I would sell high. None of our players at this point is indispensible save for Allen which at 19yo is progressing really well and would fit our timeline when we're competitive enough.

Having all our 1st round picks beginning 2019 will justify this direction.

I think our "current" overperformance really stems out on the fact that our player development staff as well as Atkinson are really doing wonders in that aspect.

Let's wait at having an opportunity to draft real studs and not lock ourselves up with C/D/E talent.

[MrDollarBills]

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RHJ+Staukas+2nd rounder for Aaron Gordan..we need bigger PF and above the rim player.

gordon isnt really bigger.

gordon is 6'7" 220 with 7 foot wingspan
RHJ is 6'7" 218 with 7 foot 1 inc wingspan

RHJ is twice as good defending bigs.

MAgic would need to give me gordon + a first for RHJ

I'm not interested in trading RHJ unless the deal involves a real needle mover. Aaron Gordon doesn't do it for me and Hollis-Jefferson is better defensively.

Aaron Gordon is 6'9 btw.

[MrDollarBills]

If I were Marks, I would sell high. None of our players at this point is indispensible save for Allen which at 19yo is progressing really well and would fit our timeline when we're competitive enough.

Having all our 1st round picks beginning 2019 will justify this direction.

I think our "current" overperformance really stems out on the fact that our player development staff as well as Atkinson are really doing wonders in that aspect.

Let's wait at having an opportunity to draft real studs and not lock ourselves up with C/D/E talent.

so the idea is to trade everyone and start building a team in 2019?