The Not Top Three Draft (Post-Merger) - Draft Thread

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Post#67 » by lilroddyb » Tue Feb 6, 2018 8:26 am

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Post#69 » by damecurry » Tue Feb 6, 2018 5:16 pm

Nate McMillan, please and thanks

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Post#71 » by Zion Wembanyama » Tue Feb 6, 2018 5:59 pm

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Post#72 » by damecurry » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:17 pm

Kinda crazy hes still here given the thin big pool, Ill take
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Post#74 » by pelifan » Tue Feb 6, 2018 7:39 pm

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Post#75 » by lilroddyb » Tue Feb 6, 2018 7:56 pm

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There is a reason why Nick Collison has always been really high in rapm numbers
Anyone have any insight into Collison??

I've been looking over the numbers at basketballvalue.com, and I'm just not seeing anything sketchy in the unit numbers or anything. It's a simple as: The Thunder are very, very good when Collison is in the lineup . . . and somewhere between mediocre and awful when he's on the bench.

Raw ratings (since some people are uncomfortable with the "adjusted" part of APM)
-The simple overall rating while he's on the court has been in double digits for the last two years:
+10.34 (2009-2010)
+14.56 (2010 playoffs)
+11.13 (2010-2011)
+10.64 (2011 playoffs)
Each of those values is among the best in the the league, and #1 in the 2010 playoffs. If we were to just add those four values up and compare with other top players: he's first by a LONG way.

-His simple net rating (the difference between the rating when he's on and when he's off) is absurd:
+9.45 (2009-2010)
+29.39 (2010 playoffs)
+11.05 (2010-2011)
+17.09 (2011 playoffs)

Unit analysis
-His units were successful with or without Westbrook, with or without Harden, and with or without Durant.
-His units were successful when the other big was: Perkins, Ibaka, Green, Krstic, Etan, Nazr, White, or Durant.
-ALL 12 OKC units from both the 2010 and 2011 playoffs that have a positive APM have Collison in the lineup (minimum 10 minutes).
-The top 6 APM units from the 2009-2010 season have Collison.
-11 of the top 14 APM units from the 2010-2011 season have Collison.
-2010-2011 12 of the 14 units that he was on that registered an APM score were positive.
-2009-2010 9 of the 12 units that he was on that registered an APM score were positive.

Is there something I'm missing in all this?

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Post#77 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Feb 6, 2018 8:07 pm

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Post#78 » by ardee » Wed Feb 7, 2018 12:23 am

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Post#79 » by 8on » Wed Feb 7, 2018 12:49 am

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