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Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6

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What is Aaron Gordon worth?

$25-29m a year ($29m is max)
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$20-25m a year
6
10%
$18-20m a year
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19%
$15-18m a year
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$12-15m a year
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#221 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 1:52 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:Same reason why people seem to be on board with Triano staying on. He's a career assistant coach who's had multiple opportunities in the past.


Well we've seen our players grow and get better under Triano. That's the reason for him. I didn't hear anyone say lets hire him because "he's a career assistant who has multiple opportunities in the past". I did mention he had a lot of experience. Fizdale has been a long time assistant as well but I don't see a compelling reason he'd be a good hire when he just got his first job and lasted a little over a year, and apparently didn't get along with at least Marc Gasol.

He might be a decent hire but I don't see why he would particularly be a good coach. I get that he was at Miami when LeBron, Wade and Bosh were but I don't know how that helps...it was teams with those guys and cheap vets around them getting to the finals.

I'm not saying Fizdale is necessarily a better hire than Triano. I'm highlighting that both guys were career assistants (except for JT's HC stint with the Raps) with questionable records coming in but somehow Triano gets a better rap only because he's done good but hardly revolutionary things for this team. Triano seems like Pops when you compare it to the clown we had in that position before him. The Fizdale firing was panned league-wide and more a testament of the Grizzlies front office than anything. And literally everything you've said about Fizdale could be said for Triano but you seem to dismiss Fizdale. Who knows what Fizdale could do with this young team.


I'm not saying Fizdale would be worse either, but I don't see a compelling argument for him. I like everything about Triano so far, and despite blowout losses, which I expect with a young team without a PG, Booker and Daniels being so bad defensively, Chandler not being great defensively, and are PFs still very much a work in process on D (though I think Bender might be our most valuable defender due to iq, length, agility, ability to switch, disrupt shots, etc...even though he still gets worked sometimes by better players and Jackson is active and will be good...already good on this team along with Bender). When you can't defend well or shoot 3s well consistently. I don't put lack of D on Triano...sure maybe to a small extent but you have to have players who want to play D and have the tools to do so.

Fizdale might do better but I like what I've seen from Triano and if it's strictly between them two I'd go for Triano...unless he doesn't want to be head coach. James Jones playing under Fizdale may have a different perspective. I don't have enough real info to make a totally informed judgement where I do with Triano.

And please not Kidd. He would not be a popular move....Bucks fans hated him (I know Raps fans hated Triano but they had a bad team then too and Raps fans also hated Casey for the longest time). Kidd ran himself out of town as a player, has left two jobs, I don't think gets along particularly well with management and loses the players.

I'd look into Corrego (Spurs assistant who was other finalist for Grizzlies job...may get it now), Blatt and Kokoskov as other guys.

Kokoskov is especially intriguing being a Jazz assistant under Quin Snyder who preaches great defense, particularly if we got Bamba, and especially if we got Doncic, becauses Kokoskov was also the Slovenia coach in 16-17.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#222 » by thamadkant » Tue Feb 6, 2018 1:55 am

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1UPZ wrote:Would Suns fans here entertain trading Warren for Hood?

Not really even sure why they want to trade Hood. He can play next to Mitchell and Burks can play PG. Hood is big enough to be SF.

His 3pt range coulde be so useful .. Especially since Suns may run Booker and Jackson as backcourt Long term.

Rather have him than Aaron Gordon.

I'd pass on that deal.


Hood averages 16/3/2 shooting 39% From the 3pt line at 2.6 makes.... That's elite.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#223 » by King4Day » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:00 am

1UPZ wrote:If suns get a top 4 pick.. I think they should aim for Ayton, Bagley, Doncic, Porter, Young... In that order.

Then sign Jeremy Lin and maybe trade for Delly from Bucks perhaps by convincing them to trade Maker and suns Accepting Delly in return. Suns can use that physical PG that bothers other PHD defensively.


Did Bamba fall out of favor? I haven't followed him at all but remember people saying he's a top 5 guy in this draft.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#224 » by King4Day » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:02 am

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Not sure why people bring up Fizdale so much. This guy has been a career assistant who finally got an opportunity and failed after 1 year. Is it because LeBron tweeted about him or something? Van Gundy? Why? Mike Brown, no thanks. Bickerstaff has only been an assistant or interim coach on teams on a downward spiral..not sure why on him either. Messina...ok, I get that one.

Same reason why people seem to be on board with Triano staying on. He's a career assistant coach who's had multiple opportunities in the past.


Well we've seen our players grow and get better under Triano. That's the reason for him. I didn't hear anyone say lets hire him because "he's a career assistant who has multiple opportunities in the past". I did mention he had a lot of experience. Fizdale has been a long time assistant as well but I don't see a compelling reason he'd be a good hire when he just got his first job and lasted a little over a year, and apparently didn't get along with at least Marc Gasol.

He might be a decent hire but I don't see why he would particularly be a good coach. I get that he was at Miami when LeBron, Wade and Bosh were but I don't know how that helps...it was teams with those guys and cheap vets around them getting to the finals.


I'm on the same page. Triano has got the players ears and it seems they are held accountable. He will bench someone and they don't pout. They just acknowledge they screwed up and grow. Jackson improving has to mean something. Even Benders baby steps.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#225 » by Waylay13 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:03 am

1UPZ wrote:Would Suns fans here entertain trading Warren for Hood?

Not really even sure why they want to trade Hood. He can play next to Mitchell and Burks can play PG. Hood is big enough to be SF.

His 3pt range coulde be so useful .. Especially since Suns may run Booker and Jackson as backcourt Long term.

Rather have him than Aaron Gordon.


Why would we want Hood? if a shooting guard he is playing Bookers spot, if he is a small forward he is behind Warren and Jackson.
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Post#226 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:11 am

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1UPZ wrote:If suns get a top 4 pick.. I think they should aim for Ayton, Bagley, Doncic, Porter, Young... In that order.

Then sign Jeremy Lin and maybe trade for Delly from Bucks perhaps by convincing them to trade Maker and suns Accepting Delly in return. Suns can use that physical PG that bothers other PHD defensively.


Did Bamba fall out of favor? I haven't followed him at all but remember people saying he's a top 5 guy in this draft.


Somewhat, but I guess it depends on what you go by. The Stepien, which I find the most useful has him in the 4th tier, at 8th overall, and that is with 5 analysts ranking them and they kind of take an avg of their individual rankings of where the guys land. It seems tankathon has him at 6th now, but they kind of have rankings mixed with needs, and currently the Bulls are currently 6th, so they give him to the Bulls...but sometimes Bagley is higher and Bamba goes 7th. Tankathon has most teams taking Doncic 1st overall in sims but they have us and the Bulls taking Ayton 1st, based on them thinking we both need centers...if we miss him they always give us Young. Not sure who comes up with those rankings though.

Givony talked about Bamba being possibly top 3 the other day, or at least said he is intriguing if like Gobert, but I don't know if I trust him much.

Cole Zwicker, the main writer for The Stepien also said, on a podcast that NBA personnel love Bagley and they don't see him dropping 3, even though they have him in tier 4 in their rankings at 6 overall.

For their tiers and rankings, go here.. https://www.thestepien.com/2018-draft-rankings/
It also gives other info like offensive and defensive roles and high end/low end (or projected ceiling and floor roles)...their stuff is good with a lot of good write ups.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#227 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:16 am

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Well we've seen our players grow and get better under Triano. That's the reason for him. I didn't hear anyone say lets hire him because "he's a career assistant who has multiple opportunities in the past". I did mention he had a lot of experience. Fizdale has been a long time assistant as well but I don't see a compelling reason he'd be a good hire when he just got his first job and lasted a little over a year, and apparently didn't get along with at least Marc Gasol.

He might be a decent hire but I don't see why he would particularly be a good coach. I get that he was at Miami when LeBron, Wade and Bosh were but I don't know how that helps...it was teams with those guys and cheap vets around them getting to the finals.

I'm not saying Fizdale is necessarily a better hire than Triano. I'm highlighting that both guys were career assistants (except for JT's HC stint with the Raps) with questionable records coming in but somehow Triano gets a better rap only because he's done good but hardly revolutionary things for this team. Triano seems like Pops when you compare it to the clown we had in that position before him. The Fizdale firing was panned league-wide and more a testament of the Grizzlies front office than anything. And literally everything you've said about Fizdale could be said for Triano but you seem to dismiss Fizdale. Who knows what Fizdale could do with this young team.


I'm not saying Fizdale would be worse either, but I don't see a compelling argument for him. I like everything about Triano so far, and despite blowout losses, which I expect with a young team without a PG, Booker and Daniels being so bad defensively, Chandler not being great defensively, and are PFs still very much a work in process on D (though I think Bender might be our most valuable defender due to iq, length, agility, ability to switch, disrupt shots, etc...even though he still gets worked sometimes by better players and Jackson is active and will be good...already good on this team along with Bender). When you can't defend well or shoot 3s well consistently. I don't put lack of D on Triano...sure maybe to a small extent but you have to have players who want to play D and have the tools to do so.

Fizdale might do better but I like what I've seen from Triano and if it's strictly between them two I'd go for Triano...unless he doesn't want to be head coach. James Jones playing under Fizdale may have a different perspective. I don't have enough real info to make a totally informed judgement where I do with Triano.

And please not Kidd. He would not be a popular move....Bucks fans hated him (I know Raps fans hated Triano but they had a bad team then too and Raps fans also hated Casey for the longest time). Kidd ran himself out of town as a player, has left two jobs, I don't think gets along particularly well with management and loses the players.

I'd look into Corrego (Spurs assistant who was other finalist for Grizzlies job...may get it now), Blatt and Kokoskov as other guys.

Kokoskov is especially intriguing being a Jazz assistant under Quin Snyder who preaches great defense, particularly if we got Bamba, and especially if we got Doncic, becauses Kokoskov was also the Slovenia coach in 16-17.

I don't think he should be ruled out. As much as I like Triano and I really do, we have to go through a thorough interview process with all the capable candidates. Just because our players like Triano, it doesn't mean he's the right coach going forward, it doesn't mean he's necessarily going to be away from the team if he didn't get the job and it doesn't mean he's done anything particularly revolutionary in his time with us.

I look like Triano's time with us as objectively as I can and I don't really see anything a proper coach hasn't done. We've just been through a season and a half with arguably the worst coach in the NBA and for him to come in and brought on some important but largely simple structures that most competent coaches would. Hell, for all of Kidd's flaws he was a real hard ass of a coach and preached discipline. What I'm saying is, I like Triano but I don't find him to be particularly special and his defensive schemes have historically been very questionable. He's had the added benefit of having had time with our roster and getting them to buy into whatever he's preaching is a big tick on his candidacy papers.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#228 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:23 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I'm not saying Fizdale is necessarily a better hire than Triano. I'm highlighting that both guys were career assistants (except for JT's HC stint with the Raps) with questionable records coming in but somehow Triano gets a better rap only because he's done good but hardly revolutionary things for this team. Triano seems like Pops when you compare it to the clown we had in that position before him. The Fizdale firing was panned league-wide and more a testament of the Grizzlies front office than anything. And literally everything you've said about Fizdale could be said for Triano but you seem to dismiss Fizdale. Who knows what Fizdale could do with this young team.


I'm not saying Fizdale would be worse either, but I don't see a compelling argument for him. I like everything about Triano so far, and despite blowout losses, which I expect with a young team without a PG, Booker and Daniels being so bad defensively, Chandler not being great defensively, and are PFs still very much a work in process on D (though I think Bender might be our most valuable defender due to iq, length, agility, ability to switch, disrupt shots, etc...even though he still gets worked sometimes by better players and Jackson is active and will be good...already good on this team along with Bender). When you can't defend well or shoot 3s well consistently. I don't put lack of D on Triano...sure maybe to a small extent but you have to have players who want to play D and have the tools to do so.

Fizdale might do better but I like what I've seen from Triano and if it's strictly between them two I'd go for Triano...unless he doesn't want to be head coach. James Jones playing under Fizdale may have a different perspective. I don't have enough real info to make a totally informed judgement where I do with Triano.

And please not Kidd. He would not be a popular move....Bucks fans hated him (I know Raps fans hated Triano but they had a bad team then too and Raps fans also hated Casey for the longest time). Kidd ran himself out of town as a player, has left two jobs, I don't think gets along particularly well with management and loses the players.

I'd look into Corrego (Spurs assistant who was other finalist for Grizzlies job...may get it now), Blatt and Kokoskov as other guys.

Kokoskov is especially intriguing being a Jazz assistant under Quin Snyder who preaches great defense, particularly if we got Bamba, and especially if we got Doncic, becauses Kokoskov was also the Slovenia coach in 16-17.

I don't think he should be ruled out. As much as I like Triano and I really do, we have to go through a thorough interview process with all the capable candidates. Just because our players like Triano, it doesn't mean he's the right coach going forward, it doesn't mean he's necessarily going to be away from the team if he didn't get the job and it doesn't mean he's done anything particularly revolutionary in his time with us.

I look like Triano's time with us as objectively as I can and I don't really see anything a proper coach hasn't done. We've just been through a season and a half with arguably the worst coach in the NBA and for him to come in and brought on some important but largely simple structures that most competent coaches would. Hell, for all of Kidd's flaws he was a real hard ass of a coach and preached discipline. What I'm saying is, I like Triano but I don't find him to be particularly special and his defensive schemes have historically been very questionable. He's had the added benefit of having had time with our roster and getting them to buy into whatever he's preaching is a big tick on his candidacy papers.


It's not so much that I think the players like him...I don't know how much they all do, but I like that he holds them accountable, and teaches, and gets them to respond, work hard and improve. Young guys need that development and I think he is good for that. It's easy to make a wrong choice, and I don't think he'd necessarily be a wrong one. Sometimes more experienced coaches are not great for young and rebuilding teams, like Vogel in Orlando.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#229 » by TeamTragic » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:26 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Seems such a quiet trade period.


Hornets: IT/JR/TT/Nets pick
Cavs: Walker/Batum

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Post#230 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:32 am

bwgood77 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
I'm not saying Fizdale would be worse either, but I don't see a compelling argument for him. I like everything about Triano so far, and despite blowout losses, which I expect with a young team without a PG, Booker and Daniels being so bad defensively, Chandler not being great defensively, and are PFs still very much a work in process on D (though I think Bender might be our most valuable defender due to iq, length, agility, ability to switch, disrupt shots, etc...even though he still gets worked sometimes by better players and Jackson is active and will be good...already good on this team along with Bender). When you can't defend well or shoot 3s well consistently. I don't put lack of D on Triano...sure maybe to a small extent but you have to have players who want to play D and have the tools to do so.

Fizdale might do better but I like what I've seen from Triano and if it's strictly between them two I'd go for Triano...unless he doesn't want to be head coach. James Jones playing under Fizdale may have a different perspective. I don't have enough real info to make a totally informed judgement where I do with Triano.

And please not Kidd. He would not be a popular move....Bucks fans hated him (I know Raps fans hated Triano but they had a bad team then too and Raps fans also hated Casey for the longest time). Kidd ran himself out of town as a player, has left two jobs, I don't think gets along particularly well with management and loses the players.

I'd look into Corrego (Spurs assistant who was other finalist for Grizzlies job...may get it now), Blatt and Kokoskov as other guys.

Kokoskov is especially intriguing being a Jazz assistant under Quin Snyder who preaches great defense, particularly if we got Bamba, and especially if we got Doncic, becauses Kokoskov was also the Slovenia coach in 16-17.

I don't think he should be ruled out. As much as I like Triano and I really do, we have to go through a thorough interview process with all the capable candidates. Just because our players like Triano, it doesn't mean he's the right coach going forward, it doesn't mean he's necessarily going to be away from the team if he didn't get the job and it doesn't mean he's done anything particularly revolutionary in his time with us.

I look like Triano's time with us as objectively as I can and I don't really see anything a proper coach hasn't done. We've just been through a season and a half with arguably the worst coach in the NBA and for him to come in and brought on some important but largely simple structures that most competent coaches would. Hell, for all of Kidd's flaws he was a real hard ass of a coach and preached discipline. What I'm saying is, I like Triano but I don't find him to be particularly special and his defensive schemes have historically been very questionable. He's had the added benefit of having had time with our roster and getting them to buy into whatever he's preaching is a big tick on his candidacy papers.


It's not so much that I think the players like him...I don't know how much they all do, but I like that he holds them accountable, and teaches, and gets them to respond, work hard and improve. Young guys need that development and I think he is good for that. It's easy to make a wrong choice, and I don't think he'd necessarily be a wrong one. Sometimes more experienced coaches are not great for young and rebuilding teams, like Vogel in Orlando.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I just think what he's done is instilled a fairly simple system of accountability that coaches at most levels of basketball enforces, as a minimum. Obviously more experienced coaches who might not have the same patience with young players are probably not the right coach for us but I think some of the other coaches you've listed are potentially great candidates. I just don't agree that Triano is necessarily the best coach going forward, without doing our due diligence. I believe when this season ends, Triano's history, experience, vision, actual coaching chops and fit should be put side by side with other candidates. He'll get a tick for fit, which is important but he may score worse when it comes to actual coaching chops.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#231 » by thamadkant » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:36 am

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1UPZ wrote:Would Suns fans here entertain trading Warren for Hood?

Not really even sure why they want to trade Hood. He can play next to Mitchell and Burks can play PG. Hood is big enough to be SF.

His 3pt range coulde be so useful .. Especially since Suns may run Booker and Jackson as backcourt Long term.

Rather have him than Aaron Gordon.


Why would we want Hood? if a shooting guard he is playing Bookers spot, if he is a small forward he is behind Warren and Jackson.




Booker can play point ala Harden mode
Hood can play shooting guard or small forward
Jackson can play same as Hood

Hood is an elite 3pt shooter....



And this original post proposed Warren for Hood.. Did you read the whole post?
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#232 » by LukasBMW » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:37 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:http://arizonasports.com/story/1405723/marquese-chriss-suspension-practice-phoenix-suns/

Details on the chriss suspension. Good to hold him accountable but this seems pretty minor.


So, I'm actually kinda with Chriss on this.

Dude is just getting back from an injury and probably has one trainer telling him not to push it, coach plays him 14 minutes but doesn't push him, Chriss starts to ice up thinking he played a significant amount of time and also needs to preserve his body. Then another trainer reminds him he needs to lift. Perhaps this trainer was a bit aggressive with his tone and Chriss snapped and said a few choice words.

Kinda seems a bit silly to punish him under these circumstances.
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Post#233 » by hollywood6964 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:39 am

1UPZ wrote:
hollywood6964 wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Would Suns fans here entertain trading Warren for Hood?

Not really even sure why they want to trade Hood. He can play next to Mitchell and Burks can play PG. Hood is big enough to be SF.

His 3pt range coulde be so useful .. Especially since Suns may run Booker and Jackson as backcourt Long term.

Rather have him than Aaron Gordon.

I'd pass on that deal.


Hood averages 16/3/2 shooting 39% From the 3pt line at 2.6 makes.... That's elite.

I just think Warren has more value than hood. Does more to score, n his defense is improving. Not that I think hood is a bum, but I can see Warrens game improving more than hood as well.
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Post#234 » by Wilber85 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:42 am

I am staying on board .... I want Ricky Rubio

I think he is the perfect PG for the suns to move the ball around... also I think he is the perfect fit next to booker


Then we need to get doncic!

Trade warren and Miami to move up and get bamba

Then our team

Rubio
Booker
Doncic
Jackson / Chriss
bamba / bender
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#235 » by Waylay13 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:48 am

1UPZ wrote:
Waylay13 wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Would Suns fans here entertain trading Warren for Hood?

Not really even sure why they want to trade Hood. He can play next to Mitchell and Burks can play PG. Hood is big enough to be SF.

His 3pt range coulde be so useful .. Especially since Suns may run Booker and Jackson as backcourt Long term.

Rather have him than Aaron Gordon.


Why would we want Hood? if a shooting guard he is playing Bookers spot, if he is a small forward he is behind Warren and Jackson.




Booker can play point ala Harden mode
Hood can play shooting guard or small forward
Jackson can play same as Hood

Hood is an elite 3pt shooter....



And this original post proposed Warren for Hood.. Did you read the whole post?


Ok lets look at Warren for Hood. First of all I dont believe that we as a team want Booker running point guard no matter the success that Houston has had with it. I believe that it takes away from his ability to focus on scoring what he is best out. One of the weakness the Suns have had is rebounding so bring in Hood we would lose rebounding vs Warren. we would lose scoring in Hood shooting % for Hood. So again why would the Suns want hood over Warren? Unless the Jazz were to give us a 1st to go with him.
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Post#236 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:48 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I'm not disagreeing with you. I just think what he's done is instilled a fairly simple system of accountability that coaches at most levels of basketball enforces, as a minimum. Obviously more experienced coaches who might not have the same patience with young players are probably not the right coach for us but I think some of the other coaches you've listed are potentially great candidates. I just don't agree that Triano is necessarily the best coach going forward, without doing our due diligence. I believe when this season ends, Triano's history, experience, vision, actual coaching chops and fit should be put side by side with other candidates. He'll get a tick for fit, which is important but he may score worse when it comes to actual coaching chops.


I agree they should interview as many good candidates as they can, and choose who they think would be best. I just wouldn't automatically rule out Triano because we need someone like __________ who we don't necessarily, as users here, have all the relevant info can make a judgement that they are definitely better fits.
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Post#237 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 3:01 am

LukasBMW wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:http://arizonasports.com/story/1405723/marquese-chriss-suspension-practice-phoenix-suns/

Details on the chriss suspension. Good to hold him accountable but this seems pretty minor.


So, I'm actually kinda with Chriss on this.

Dude is just getting back from an injury and probably has one trainer telling him not to push it, coach plays him 14 minutes but doesn't push him, Chriss starts to ice up thinking he played a significant amount of time and also needs to preserve his body. Then another trainer reminds him he needs to lift. Perhaps this trainer was a bit aggressive with his tone and Chriss snapped and said a few choice words.

Kinda seems a bit silly to punish him under these circumstances.

It seems simple but this is all that was made public. I don't want to speculate but if it really was this 'silly' I don't think it would warrant a one game suspension. I'd imagine there were some choice words which obviously weren't tolerated and that got him sent to detention.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#238 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 3:02 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:I'm not disagreeing with you. I just think what he's done is instilled a fairly simple system of accountability that coaches at most levels of basketball enforces, as a minimum. Obviously more experienced coaches who might not have the same patience with young players are probably not the right coach for us but I think some of the other coaches you've listed are potentially great candidates. I just don't agree that Triano is necessarily the best coach going forward, without doing our due diligence. I believe when this season ends, Triano's history, experience, vision, actual coaching chops and fit should be put side by side with other candidates. He'll get a tick for fit, which is important but he may score worse when it comes to actual coaching chops.


I agree they should interview as many good candidates as they can, and choose who they think would be best. I just wouldn't automatically rule out Triano because we need someone like __________ who we don't necessarily, as users here, have all the relevant info can make a judgement that they are definitely better fits.

I wouldn't rule him out but I wouldn't make him the leading candidate even before going through the process and seeing who is actually available.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#239 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Feb 6, 2018 3:04 am

Triano sucks 30th in Defensive Rating in his last 3 seasons and 29th in the 4th.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#240 » by kennydorglas » Tue Feb 6, 2018 3:06 am

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Why would we want Hood? if a shooting guard he is playing Bookers spot, if he is a small forward he is behind Warren and Jackson.




Booker can play point ala Harden mode
Hood can play shooting guard or small forward
Jackson can play same as Hood

Hood is an elite 3pt shooter....



And this original post proposed Warren for Hood.. Did you read the whole post?


Ok lets look at Warren for Hood. First of all I dont believe that we as a team want Booker running point guard no matter the success that Houston has had with it. I believe that it takes away from his ability to focus on scoring what he is best out. One of the weakness the Suns have had is rebounding so bring in Hood we would lose rebounding vs Warren. we would lose scoring in Hood shooting % for Hood. So again why would the Suns want hood over Warren? Unless the Jazz were to give us a 1st to go with him.


TJ still has a better TS% than Hood even being 7~8% lower than Hood in 3p% and FT%
Seems like a lateral move AT BEST.
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