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Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards

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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#41 » by Topofthekey » Tue Feb 6, 2018 2:44 am

Quite an ugly game to watch. I stopped watching halfway in the 2nd quarter, came back halfway in the 4th quarter, and then stopped watching for good with less than 2 minutes remaining.

Myles seemed to be getting comfortable early on before getting into foul trouble. I think it's really time to consider having him come off the bench while letting Domas start. No, this is not me giving up on him or saying he should be "punished", it's just an idea that giving Myles an extended opportunity to play off the bench against the opponent's 2nd unit might do him some good and help him regain his confidence and polish his play until he is ready to start again
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#42 » by pacers33granger » Tue Feb 6, 2018 3:55 pm

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:We got very bad Lance tonight. Every time we've had a chance to get some momentum going, he has gone iso, and taken a step back 3 or crazy shot in traffic.


Yup, this is why he should not be starting. But we all knew that at this point.

This game also showed us why Joseph is not a starting PG. He forced it quite a bit and has trouble running an offense. Still a great backup, but that's all he is.

On the plus side, Joe Young actually looks like an NBA player finally and the game seems to have slowed down for him. If we lose Joseph (doubtful with the lack of space this summer), then I think we'll be ok with Young as the backup PG alongside Lance. Not ideal, but we won't be scrambling for one it seems under any circumstances.
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#43 » by Wizop » Tue Feb 6, 2018 4:22 pm

pacers33granger wrote:This game also showed us why Joseph is not a starting PG.


should slow down any trade Collison talks.
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#44 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:05 pm

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pacers33granger wrote:This game also showed us why Joseph is not a starting PG.


should slow down any trade Collison talks.

His injury already killed them. He can't be traded.
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#45 » by Wizop » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:14 pm

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:
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pacers33granger wrote:This game also showed us why Joseph is not a starting PG.


should slow down any trade Collison talks.

His injury already killed them. He can't be traded.


we don't have any medical details. obviously he can't be traded unless the other team's doctors passed on his injury as being minor. the story was he banged his knee on the floor. I did something similar last year and it took months for the fluid to be absorbed but if his injury is similar the surgery might have just been draining fluid. it doesn't sound like a ligament tear as that would have a much longer recovery period than the two or three weeks they've been saying. now I'm not saying he can be traded. I'm just saying we don't know whether he can be traded now or not ... and that even if he can be, I don't want to do it.
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#46 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:18 pm

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should slow down any trade Collison talks.

His injury already killed them. He can't be traded.


we don't have any medical details. obviously he can't be traded unless the other team's doctors passed on his injury as being minor. the story was he banged his knee on the floor. I did something similar last year and it took months for the fluid to be absorbed but if his injury is similar the surgery might have just been draining fluid. it doesn't sound like a ligament tear as that would have a much longer recovery period than the two or three weeks they've been saying. now I'm not saying he can be traded. I'm just saying we don't know whether he can be traded now or not ... and that even if he can be, I don't want to do it.

I thought it was a rule or something that a player could not be traded while injured.
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#47 » by Wizop » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:48 pm

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:I thought it was a rule or something that a player could not be traded while injured.


the only thing I see in the cbafaq is a rule requiring all medical information to be disclosed in trade negotiations. I think it is typical to include a clause in a trade making it subject to the players passing a physical, but I don't see anything in the rules requiring such a term or prohibiting waiving it. in a case like this, I think the other team would be testing to make sure that the injury was not more severe than they had bargained for. I might have missed something though.
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#48 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:49 pm

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xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:I thought it was a rule or something that a player could not be traded while injured.


the only thing I see in the cbafaq is a rule requiring all medical information to be disclosed in trade negotiations. I think it is typical to include a clause in a trade making it subject to the players passing a physical, but I don't see anything in the rules requiring such a term or prohibiting waiving it. in a case like this, I think the other team would be testing to make sure that the injury was not more severe than they had bargained for. I might have missed something though.

You could be right.

I just remember that in NBA games you could never trade injured players. Seems really weird that a video game would add a rule that wasn't in the NBA, but then again 2K is my source on this so what the **** do I know?
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#49 » by Pacersike » Tue Feb 6, 2018 6:52 pm

Turner getting exposed without Oladipo. Good thing we just have high expectations and he is still only 21 years old.

pacers33granger wrote:This game also showed us why Joseph is not a starting PG. He forced it quite a bit and has trouble running an offense. Still a great backup, but that's all he is.

I'd run our starters offense trough Oladipo/Sabonis and I would get a better playmaking SF than BoBo. CoJo would fit just fine in my team as defensive PG with spacing ability. Just wondering if we will ever see CoJo and Domas start with Oladipo :-?
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#50 » by DoubleEagle4 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 8:05 pm

Am I the only one that things they should have went to Joe Young more down the stretch? He had the hot hand and I barely remember him being in there in the 4th quarter. Seems like Nate is too concerned about having CJ on the floor at the end of games and not concerned about feeding the hot hand..
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#51 » by winter_mute_13 » Tue Feb 6, 2018 8:44 pm

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:I thought it was a rule or something that a player could not be traded while injured.


Players have to be able to pass a physical for a trade to be completed. There's been a few occasions in the past when trades have been rescinded because a player failed a physical. If DC is injured, he won't pass a physical of course.

OTOH, teams can waive the requirement of a physical. That seems unlikely though if a team is acquiring DC in order to play him.
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#52 » by Wizop » Tue Feb 6, 2018 9:25 pm

Pacersike wrote:I would get a better playmaking SF than BoBo.


I want a rebounder at SF.
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#53 » by Wizop » Tue Feb 6, 2018 9:29 pm

winter_mute_13 wrote:OTOH, teams can waive the requirement of a physical. That seems unlikely though if a team is acquiring DC in order to play him.


not if the Doctors say he'll be ready to play in a week or two, but I don't want to trade him now regardless. I'm hoping the draft gives us a point guard or at least a wing with enough ball handling skills to bring the ball up against pressure. if so, I'd revisit his trade value then.
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#54 » by Pacersike » Tue Feb 6, 2018 11:37 pm

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Pacersike wrote:I would get a better playmaking SF than BoBo.


I want a rebounder at SF.

The Pacers are the best rebounding team in the league when Sabonis and Turner are on the court together and CoJo is a better rebounder than Collison. Because those guys might be our future, our small forward has to be a good player but not necessarily a rebounder.
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Post#55 » by Wizop » Tue Feb 6, 2018 11:45 pm

Pacersike wrote:
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Pacersike wrote:I would get a better playmaking SF than BoBo.


I want a rebounder at SF.

The Pacers are the best rebounding team in the league when Sabonis and Turner are on the court together and CoJo is a better rebounder than Collison. Because those guys might be our future, our small forward has to be a good player but not necessarily a rebounder.
I'm okay drafting a second unit wing and there i want a rebounder. Bojan has been a pleasant surprise and I think it would be difficult to get more out of that position without spending a lot more money.

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Post#56 » by Pacersike » Tue Feb 6, 2018 11:57 pm

Wizop wrote:
Pacersike wrote:
Wizop wrote:
I want a rebounder at SF.

The Pacers are the best rebounding team in the league when Sabonis and Turner are on the court together and CoJo is a better rebounder than Collison. Because those guys might be our future, our small forward has to be a good player but not necessarily a rebounder.
I'm okay drafting a second unit wing and there i want a rebounder. Bojan has been a pleasant surprise and I think it would be difficult to get more out of that position without spending a lot more money.

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I don't mind if they spend a lot more money, but it has to be 3 or soemone else. Bojan has bench player written all over him.
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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#57 » by Wizop » Wed Feb 7, 2018 2:15 am

now Washington losing to Philly. we're just not the same without Vic.

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Re: Game Thread: 02/05 Pacers v Wizards 

Post#58 » by Vorda » Wed Feb 7, 2018 8:10 am

When will Dipo return?

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