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Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL

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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#821 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Feb 7, 2018 12:37 pm

We've been there, it sucks :-?
Kristaps will be fine in the end. There's a reason these injuries take so long, they make sure to build a lot of muscles around that knee to support it. Towards the start of next season you'll see him jumping on trampolines and things like that, and then they'll keep him out for a couple more months for strengthening. Kristaps is a smart guy, he will use the time to build up his body, Jabari came back more athletic after his first ACL and he looks as good as ever after his second.

Play your young guys, tank the season, get another piece.
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#822 » by F N 11 » Wed Feb 7, 2018 12:39 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:We've been there, it sucks :-?
Kristaps will be fine in the end. There's a reason these injuries take so long, they make sure to build a lot of muscles around that knee to support it. Towards the start of next season you'll see him jumping on trampolines and things like that, and then they'll keep him out for a couple more months for strengthening. Kristaps is a smart guy, he will use the time to build up his body, Jabari came back more athletic after his first ACL and he looks as good as ever after his second.

Play your young guys, tank the season, get another piece.

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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#823 » by camillepd » Wed Feb 7, 2018 12:39 pm

This is the final year for any NBA team to tank, so let's make the best of it.
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#824 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Feb 7, 2018 12:45 pm

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Please. There's enough shyt to wade through around here. Phil had "autonomy". Mills did paperwork. Perry is the GM. His job is to build the team now. Mills will ok the paperwork.

It's not the same.


So, Mills fought a battle over control of the franchise with Phil so he could hand over all decision making to a guy who just got here.

Sounds legit


Mills didn't do **** except hold Phils jock. Stop dude. Mills didn't fight for control. He just watched Phil lose his mind and get himself flred. There was no coup. There was no war for control. Phil sucked and lost his mind talking about buying out Melo and trading KP.

Perry is the GM. He will be the one making decisions. Hearing about the Payton love...scares me. I'm not going to add conspiracies to an already bad scene.


Phil made most of the decisions but Mills had some input - I figure that's how it works everywhere. I'm not talking up Mills. And I think there was friction, and at the least, Mills moved on his big chance to take over and move Phil out, though of course Phil gave him the opening. Mills is a corporate operator. I'm convinced this is a thing he would do. And now he's "in charge". Sure, Perry Doody is the GM, but he's a weak GM. I'd assume this is a thing too. Some GM"s have a lot of power, some barely any. I'd put Perry on the "weak/low power" side of the scale.

It's Mills team. We're going to disagree. I'll sit back and watch the next few years as Mills makes moves that so much like all the moves the Knicks have made over the years, where Mills was part of the FO power structure.

It already started with the THJr signing.
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#825 » by dakomish23 » Wed Feb 7, 2018 12:52 pm

This was a serious post? :lol:

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Post#826 » by edgarz » Wed Feb 7, 2018 12:53 pm

He will probably have a surgery on his elbow as well
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#827 » by dakomish23 » Wed Feb 7, 2018 12:54 pm

Reign23 wrote:our core-4 from pre-season right now:
- kp torn acl
- tim can't hit a shot to save his life
- frank in da doghouse and looking uuuhm not good to be polite
- willy can't get off the bench the hole year.

holy **** -.-


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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#828 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Feb 7, 2018 12:55 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
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So, Mills fought a battle over control of the franchise with Phil so he could hand over all decision making to a guy who just got here.

Sounds legit


Mills didn't do **** except hold Phils jock. Stop dude. Mills didn't fight for control. He just watched Phil lose his mind and get himself flred. There was no coup. There was no war for control. Phil sucked and lost his mind talking about buying out Melo and trading KP.

Perry is the GM. He will be the one making decisions. Hearing about the Payton love...scares me. I'm not going to add conspiracies to an already bad scene.


Phil made most of the decisions but Mills had some input - I figure that's how it works everywhere. I'm not talking up Mills. And I think there was friction, and at the least, Mills moved on his big chance to take over and move Phil out, though of course Phil gave him the opening. Mills is a corporate operator. I'm convinced this is a thing he would do. And now he's "in charge". Sure, Perry Doody is the GM, but he's a weak GM. I'd assume this is a thing too. Some GM"s have a lot of power, some barely any. I'd put Perry on the "weak/low power" side of the scale.

It's Mills team. We're going to disagree. I'll sit back and watch the next few years as Mills makes moves that so much like all the moves the Knicks have made over the years, where Mills was part of the FO power structure.

It already started with the THJr signing.


I'm sure Mills will have input. They sit arm in arm at every game. You want to drudge up some power struggle. Whatever. Perry is supposed to be the guy doing the GM job. I'm putting him on the clock.

If this team doesn't reboot and rebuild now...they can suck my balls!! Mills/Perry/Dolan.
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Post#829 » by Trav_NYK » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:04 pm

this sucks but i guess now we can force a fire sale and tank on
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#830 » by King of Canada » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:07 pm

Anybody bring up his extension yet? I wonder if we make the big offer and he picks it up (was likely he would have anyway, but there is always doubt). Obviously the offer is still probably made all the same, but just another detail to think about.
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#831 » by robillionaire » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:09 pm

camillepd wrote:This is the final year for any NBA team to tank, so let's make the best of it.


Once you crack the top 3 there’s no need to tank beyond that but trust me teams will still tank for top 3.
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#832 » by Galou » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:10 pm

Kristaps has a different body than those that recovered from an acl injury. I don't think he's gonna be the same when he recovers. Phil jackson explained that his body type was similar to Shawn Bradley.
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Post#833 » by mpharris36 » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:10 pm

Trav_NYK wrote:this sucks but i guess now we can force a fire sale and tank on


Perry/Mills were planning on buying as of yesterday...I doubt they completely shift gears in 24 hours...
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#834 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:20 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Trav_NYK wrote:this sucks but i guess now we can force a fire sale and tank on


Perry/Mills were planning on buying as of yesterday...I doubt they completely shift gears in 24 hours...


Really? You really don't think they switch gears after losing KP? :-? I disagree with that. It's possible they still don't make trades, but I think they're absolutely trying to trade guys now. They just lost their best player...
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#835 » by digitaldropoff » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:20 pm

This is good news/bad news for the Knicks. The bad news is their lurch like superstar suffered a terrible knee injury. On a guy already incredibly lanky, and IMO, not that well put together to handle an NBA season....this rehab cannot be rushed in the slightest. He'll need an entire year, despite how he might feel at 9 months. Many people think torn ACL repairs are now routine and easy to fix.....and to a point, they are. But despite the strength you may build back up around it, you are susceptible to more injuries....via over compensating on the off leg or just pushing past a point on the rebuilt one. No one should logically think he'll be completely fine and the exact same. Everyone should be hopeful, but there are plenty of guys who never get back to what they were or just continue to get injured.

The good news. First for KP......while he rehabs, he might get a chance to actually put on some weight. Ideally, recovering from a knee injury, more bulk isn't ideal. But let's face it, he needs bulk all over. In his knee that they'll work on....his base, his entire body needs some muscle. This much time off, he will hopefully have a nutritionist feeding him all the right things for his grueling recovery. For the Knicks, this secures a top ten lotto pick without even flinching. Ideally, it puts you in the top 5. The problem isn't how bad the Knicks are, it's the fact that there are some legit terrible teams that will be at the bottom no matter how tanked out the Knicks will be. Dallas, Sac, PHX, Orlando, ATL, even Chi and Brooklyn can string together several losing streaks. Horny already doesn't play young guys and allegedly is coaching to win over development....so despite his talent downgrade, he's clearly interested in winning as much as possible. I'm sure this is how most coaches think, but most coaches aren't in his environment. Bad news short term, long term it could be something meaningful. We'll find out in late June.
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#836 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:25 pm

robillionaire wrote:
camillepd wrote:This is the final year for any NBA team to tank, so let's make the best of it.


Once you crack the top 3 there’s no need to tank beyond that but trust me teams will still tank for top 3.


That change was a PR move. It doesn't alter the situation all that much.
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#837 » by duetta » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:25 pm

KP will have to get the elbow fixed as well.
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Post#838 » by digitaldropoff » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:26 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Trav_NYK wrote:this sucks but i guess now we can force a fire sale and tank on


Perry/Mills were planning on buying as of yesterday...I doubt they completely shift gears in 24 hours...


Really? You really don't think they switch gears after losing KP? :-? I disagree with that. It's possible they still don't make trades, but I think they're absolutely trying to trade guys now. They just lost their best player...


His quote actually looks like he's actually just agreeing.....that they won't just change their minds, they were looking to make deals anyway? I've said the biggest problem is the assets aren't going to net a massive amount unless a young guy or that pick is included. The latter is clearly off limits, but does WHG really net a late first round considering he's been buried under an underwhelming front court? KOQ, Kanter.....they aren't worth assets because they can be signed out right or an offseason S&T could be done (Kanter....no one would so for KOQ). I am intrigued by why they are looking at Peyton. That would shift Frank to SG....not sure I love that combo offensively, despite the defensive prowess.
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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#839 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:26 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Trav_NYK wrote:this sucks but i guess now we can force a fire sale and tank on


Perry/Mills were planning on buying as of yesterday...I doubt they completely shift gears in 24 hours...


Really? You really don't think they switch gears after losing KP? :-? I disagree with that. It's possible they still don't make trades, but I think they're absolutely trying to trade guys now. They just lost their best player...


So now instead of having planned to make trades for the last month based on a realistic assessment of where the team is at, they are engaging in a mad dash to do something - in the opposite direction too, before the trade deadline comes.

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Re: Kristaps Porzingis has torn his ACL 

Post#840 » by Galou » Wed Feb 7, 2018 1:29 pm

KP might as well come back for the 2019/2020 season. Coming back February or March of 2019 don't make sense. 2019/ 2020 is gonna be a make it or break it season for KP because if he's not better than before, its over. Knicks won't resign him.
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