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GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST

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Re: GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST 

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Re: GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#182 » by Claud » Wed Feb 7, 2018 3:49 pm

There's no doubt in my mind Nene meant to body check Levert. Maybe not as bad as it happened but he definitely meant to do it.

If you go back and watch 5-7 minutes before the incident there was a play where Levert drove hard to the rim against Nene ...kinda looked like an offensive foul but the refs gave Levert 2 free throws. You can tell Nene was pissed and put him on his list.

Fast forward to the play where the incident happen and you can clearly tell Nene looked straight at Levert and although it wasn't a foul he maliciously set the screen in order to retaliate. He could have caused a severe neck/head injury. We still don't know Levert's status.

If this was Harden or CP3 getting checked to the floor it would have been a flagrant 2 and possibly suspension yet here we are.
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Re: GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#183 » by LKIRNets » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:31 pm

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We beat them in bench, points in the paint, Fastbreak points.

The glaring issue is we start games not focused, not putting our best effort. It's almost lackadasical. Yes Houston is great. But we proved that quarter 2-3-4, we could stop them. But for some reason, that first quarter continues to mess this team up. You're playing down and then you have to step it up in 2nd, you shut them down, but by the 3rd quarter you're gas'd and it effects how we play offensively. We held what should be a Western Conference Championship team to 27 points in the 4th. We beat them in every category, but by that 2nd and 3rd we're gas'd going uphill.


This is misleading.

- The Nets started out the first quarter well, only down 21-20 at the 4:00 mark.

- The Nets started out the third quarter well too, turning a 2 pt deficit at the half to a 1 pt lead later in the 3rd.

- You can see this in the Nets starters +/-. All of them were positive except for Carroll, who was even.

- The Nets bench had a bad +/-, with Dlo at -26, Okafor at -18, and Stauskas at -14.

- The Nets bench had more total points than the Rockets bench but that's because the Rockets only play basically an 8 man rotation so their bench is small and play less minutes. To be fair, that means the Nets bench played against a lot of the Rockets starters.

So the takeaway shouldn't be that our bench outscored theirs or that we started off the game slow. Instead, it's that our starters were beating Harden, Paul, Capela, and co., but our bench couldn't hold the lead. Nothing wrong with this since the Rockets play a tight rotation.


Our starters played well, but at 21-20, the only change there was mins to DLo|Okafor|Stauskas|Webb|Levert and that group was outscored 17-11 for a 4 min run. They shot over 70% and allowed the other team to shoot 78%. Gerald Green was 2 for 3 from 3 in that stretch. Russell was beat on 1 screen and the and the 2nd make was a travel that was not called.

So let me clarify this. We loss the 1st quarter. Sorry I got in around the 2nd b/c I was driving home. But we still loss that 1st quarter.
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Re: GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#184 » by LKIRNets » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:32 pm

Claud wrote:There's no doubt in my mind Nene meant to body check Levert. Maybe not as bad as it happened but he definitely meant to do it.

If you go back and watch 5-7 minutes before the incident there was a play where Levert drove hard to the rim against Nene ...kinda looked like an offensive foul but the refs gave Levert 2 free throws. You can tell Nene was pissed and put him on his list.

Fast forward to the play where the incident happen and you can clearly tell Nene looked straight at Levert and although it wasn't a foul he maliciously set the screen in order to retaliate. He could have caused a severe neck/head injury. We still don't know Levert's status.

If this was Harden or CP3 getting checked to the floor it would have been a flagrant 2 and possibly suspension yet here we are.

Yeh the scouting report is out on Levert. He's a sucker for the screen. He's going to see them a lot.
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Re: GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#185 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:56 pm

Claud wrote:There's no doubt in my mind Nene meant to body check Levert. Maybe not as bad as it happened but he definitely meant to do it.

If you go back and watch 5-7 minutes before the incident there was a play where Levert drove hard to the rim against Nene ...kinda looked like an offensive foul but the refs gave Levert 2 free throws. You can tell Nene was pissed and put him on his list.

Fast forward to the play where the incident happen and you can clearly tell Nene looked straight at Levert and although it wasn't a foul he maliciously set the screen in order to retaliate. He could have caused a severe neck/head injury. We still don't know Levert's status.

If this was Harden or CP3 getting checked to the floor it would have been a flagrant 2 and possibly suspension yet here we are.


On the replay it was a legal play. I definitely think he leaned into that one. did he mean to cause that kind of harm? I don't know.

But we're the Nets, so we should just get over it when our guys end up on the floor bloodied and their brains rattled in their skulls. I guarantee if that was Jahlil Okafor doing that to Chris Paul with the same result, immediate flagrant 2 and ejection.
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Re: GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#186 » by LKIRNets » Wed Feb 7, 2018 6:45 pm

We held Gordon|Harden|Paul to 8 for 20 from 3 pt range.

That's freaking good. The only thing I see in this is Russell was bit off and Crabbe was a no show. But defensively we did good. But we just loss that 1st quarter.
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Post#187 » by MGrand15 » Wed Feb 7, 2018 7:06 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Claud wrote:There's no doubt in my mind Nene meant to body check Levert. Maybe not as bad as it happened but he definitely meant to do it.

If you go back and watch 5-7 minutes before the incident there was a play where Levert drove hard to the rim against Nene ...kinda looked like an offensive foul but the refs gave Levert 2 free throws. You can tell Nene was pissed and put him on his list.

Fast forward to the play where the incident happen and you can clearly tell Nene looked straight at Levert and although it wasn't a foul he maliciously set the screen in order to retaliate. He could have caused a severe neck/head injury. We still don't know Levert's status.

If this was Harden or CP3 getting checked to the floor it would have been a flagrant 2 and possibly suspension yet here we are.


On the replay it was a legal play. I definitely think he leaned into that one. did he mean to cause that kind of harm? I don't know.

But we're the Nets, so we should just get over it when our guys end up on the floor bloodied and their brains rattled in their skulls. I guarantee if that was Jahlil Okafor doing that to Chris Paul with the same result, immediate flagrant 2 and ejection.


Yeah, the lack of response from anyone is alarming. I don't care if it's legal. In real time, it's impossible to tell. Someone has to get in Nene's face and tell him to cut that **** out. If someone blindsides Westbrook, Steven Adams isn't gonna go to replay review before he gets in someone's face.

You don't need to start a brawl to stick up for your guy. But when you think about the guys we brought in, no one is remotely even close to about that life.
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Re: GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#188 » by kamaze » Wed Feb 7, 2018 8:01 pm

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SpeedyG wrote:Only caught bits and pieces of the game, but what in the world do some of you want the Nets to do? start a riot for a clean screen?

It's not Nene fault he's 6'10 and built like a brick and that Caris wasn't looking, and that none of the other players called out to watch out for a screen.


It was the heat of the moment. Sorry, some of us actually like and appreciate these players and don't view them all as cannon fodder to acquire low first rd picks in trades, so when one of them gets blind sided like that and is left on the ground bleeding like a stuck pig it was infuriating to see. combined with how the Nets have been getting hammered all year long with no calls to show for it.

after time has passed, yes it was a clean screen that should have been called out. still don't like the fact that the Nets didn't respond to it. the game was over after that.


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Re: GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#189 » by MGrand15 » Wed Feb 7, 2018 8:32 pm

LKIRNets wrote:We held Gordon|Harden|Paul to 8 for 20 from 3 pt range.

That's freaking good. The only thing I see in this is Russell was bit off and Crabbe was a no show. But defensively we did good. But we just loss that 1st quarter.


40% on 20 attempts is not good. Definitely not "freaking good" :lol:
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Re: GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#190 » by SpeedyG » Wed Feb 7, 2018 9:20 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
SpeedyG wrote:Only caught bits and pieces of the game, but what in the world do some of you want the Nets to do? start a riot for a clean screen?

It's not Nene fault he's 6'10 and built like a brick and that Caris wasn't looking, and that none of the other players called out to watch out for a screen.


It was the heat of the moment. Sorry, some of us actually like and appreciate these players and don't view them all as cannon fodder to acquire low first rd picks in trades, so when one of them gets blind sided like that and is left on the ground bleeding like a stuck pig it was infuriating to see. combined with how the Nets have been getting hammered all year long with no calls to show for it.

after time has passed, yes it was a clean screen that should have been called out. still don't like the fact that the Nets didn't respond to it. the game was over after that.


So it looked like a legal screen in real time, you can't judge intent, but your reaction is you want to go ahead and wreck someone?

No wonder our world has gone to **** when people think violence is the only recourse to violence.

He set a screen, Caris ran into it while not looking, and he got clobbered.

That's all.

And since you're going to get smart about it...

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Re: GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#191 » by LKIRNets » Wed Feb 7, 2018 9:30 pm

MGrand15 wrote:
LKIRNets wrote:We held Gordon|Harden|Paul to 8 for 20 from 3 pt range.

That's freaking good. The only thing I see in this is Russell was bit off and Crabbe was a no show. But defensively we did good. But we just loss that 1st quarter.


40% on 20 attempts is not good. Definitely not "freaking good" :lol:

With those 3? it is.
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Re: GT: Houston (38-13) vs The Nets (19-35) - Tuesday, 02/06/18, 7:30pm EST 

Post#192 » by Yit » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:49 pm

Tracking Players performance vs Rockets 6 Feb 2018

Dinwiddie - 44 (++)
DMC - 35 (+)
Okafor - 27 (+)
Allen - 25 (=)
Harris - 16 (-)
CLV - 16 (=)
Webb - 10 (=)
Crabbe - 9 (--)
DAR - 9 (-)
Whitehead - 6 (-)
Vaughn - 2 (-)
Stauskas - 1 (-)

Hopefully Okafor can continue his growth (which spells good for the Nets)
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