WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds

shtolky · Post #281 » by **shtolky** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:56 pm

NewEra wrote:Lol 12+ pages on WHG. He's really not that good.

Fields, Shumpert, Frye, Gallo, Nate...Knick fans have a tendency to slightly overrated their own prospects. I'm surprised we got two 2nds for Willy. Hilarious some expected a first, let alone Monk.

Spree2Houston · Post #282 » by **Spree2Houston** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:57 pm

In the off-season noone wanted to include Willy for Irving lol I have no confidence in Perry/Mills anymore. Their talent evaluation skills scares me

Tron Carter · Post #283 » by **Tron Carter** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:57 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:

Read on Twitter

How you guys cant see this is mind boggling.

yeah sell off all our youth

Damas · Post #284 » by **Damas** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:57 pm

WHAT DID I **** SAY ON THE FIRST PAGE!?

Jesus goddamn christ.

MP4LIFE · Post #285 » by **MP4LIFE** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:57 pm

shtolky wrote:
MP4LIFE wrote:
shtolky wrote:

No.

If you think this is a good trade then more power to you.

Here's a news flash, though: Monk sucks and so does this trade

You took a 2nd rounder and developed him into a player, something worth more than a 2nd now - a late first or another young player. Instead you trade him for two more 2nds so you can draft another Cleanthony Early and Slavko Vranes. Do you know how difficult it is to find a player in the 2nd round and have him become valuable? This is an awful trade in all aspects. We got ZERO return on a prospect we developed.

Monk sucking right now doesn't mean WHG nets anything close to that type of player, a highly touted rookie in the middle of his rookie season. I don't think this is a good trade or a bad trade. WHG has gone from underrated to overrated. I'm not going to celebrate the deal or say it's the worst thing ever like I am sure some posters will do. WHG is an absolutely atrocious defender and he's been overrated by this board to the point where people were actually expecting a first round pick for him.

The 2nds can also be used in trades. People wanted picks, we have a lot of picks now. And our drafting has actually been a strong point. It's a minor deal, let's not make it out to be a major one.

People wanted 1st round picks.

2nd round picks are useless. They are thrown around the league like candy. And as I mentioned earlier, there's a reason for that. Having an abundance of them isn't something to brag about.

This trade sucks all around. WHG not being a good defender has nothing to do with this trade not being bad.

Jay10 · Post #286 » by **Jay10** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:57 pm

Bigs that can't shoot from the perimeter or defend have no value in the current nba.

Willy will be the first of many players to be traded.

fatalogic · Post #287 » by **fatalogic** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:57 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
Reign23 wrote:lets hope this is the start of a firesale

It has to be...

ON THE ROAD TO 23-59!!!!!

might be the only way to get a top 5 pick with all the bad teams this year; have already won too many games that it might be too late to get higher than there 9th worst record

They can probably get up to 6-7. This team without KP and trading some Lee and KOQ is worse than the Nets and Lakers and they don't have their picks so they should be trying to win.

F N 11 · Post #288 » by **F N 11** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:57 pm

MP4LIFE · Post #289 » by **MP4LIFE** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:58 pm

Tron Carter wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:

Read on Twitter

How you guys cant see this is mind boggling.

yeah sell off all our youth

Hahn is an MSG schill. Dude is embarrassing now with how he praises the organization since being hired by them. No more objectivity.

shtolky · Post #290 » by **shtolky** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:58 pm

Tron Carter wrote:That’s a TRASH return

Tell me, were you actually expecting a first for him? Like seriously?

Phish Tank · Post #291 » by **Phish Tank** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:58 pm

you know if Willy didn't beg for a trade........

MaseInYourFace · Post #292 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:58 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:

Read on Twitter

How you guys cant see this is mind boggling.

Doesn't justify this trade though

Post #293 » by **dakomish23** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:58 pm

K P 6 wrote:Can’t wait to max Kyle and Kanter

Going all in on the roster after the “progress” the team made this year

Post #294 » by **Clyde Frazier** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:58 pm

I know nothing about o’bryant. in his limited career he looks kinda worthless. anyone got anything?

Post #295 » by **DOT** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:58 pm

Phish Tank wrote:you know if Willy didn't beg for a trade........

you know if we'd've played him in the first place........

djsunyc · Post #296 » by **djsunyc** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:59 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:

Read on Twitter

How you guys cant see this is mind boggling.

is trading willie really selling? he's a young skilled big on a cost effective contract. you got 2 second rounders but chances you find one as good as willie are slim.

selling is dumping vets for picks, not young cost effective skilled players for 2nd rounders. hahn's tweet is not supported by the willie move.

Post #297 » by **DOT** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:59 pm

Clyde Frazier wrote:I know nothing about o’bryant. in his limited career he looks kinda worthless. anyone got anything?

Nah

Dude sucks

Post #298 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:59 pm

Clyde Frazier wrote:I know nothing about o’bryant. in his limited career he looks kinda worthless. anyone got anything?

nope, pretty much nailed it

Phish Tank · Post #299 » by **Phish Tank** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:59 pm

K-DOT wrote:
Phish Tank wrote:you know if Willy didn't beg for a trade........

you know if we'd've played him in the first place........

you know if he didn't show up to camp out of shape.....

TheGreenArrow · Post #300 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:59 pm

Tron Carter wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:

Read on Twitter

How you guys cant see this is mind boggling.

yeah sell off all our youth

The only youth that truly matters on this team is frank and kp.

Willy was and is severely overrated.