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WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds

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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#441 » by TheGreenArrow » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:26 pm

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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#442 » by Mecca » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:27 pm

Funniest thing about this was that there were posters that wouldn't have included Willy in a deal for Kyrie lolol
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#443 » by HEZI » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:27 pm

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then stand by them. Dont use age as an excuse... :o :o


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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#444 » by Jay10 » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:27 pm

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Ian Begley reported this last summer, and now Frank is trying to use it as something new.
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#445 » by DaGawd » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:27 pm

So uh...Kinda bittersweet if we get Luka now with his boy Willy gone...
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#446 » by GEOLINK » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:27 pm

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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#447 » by newyorker4ever » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:28 pm

Clyde Frazier wrote:I know nothing about o’bryant. in his limited career he looks kinda worthless. anyone got anything?



He's a throw away guy who's a RFA after this year so we add $1.5 million to our cap after he leaves next year.
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#448 » by MP4LIFE » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:28 pm

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Such hacks. Obviously.


You never addressed my post. Running away from discussions and posting tweets doesn't prove anything.



I responded to you. Show me which post are you referring to and I will gladly respond.


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Fields, Shumpert, Frye, Gallo, Nate...Knick fans have a tendency to slightly overrated their own prospects. I'm surprised we got two 2nds for Willy. Hilarious some expected a first, let alone Monk.


Dude is still going on about this.

You have no idea what maximizing assets means, do you?

This is not the same case as the other players you mentioned at all. Nearly everyone here acknowledges what Willy is.

The only hilarious thing is you schilling for this trade and then pretending that you're not.



I think I would know my own thought process better than you would. I'm not schilling for anything. I'm being logical and realistic, something you know nothing about. People like you who constantly overreact to things like this, minor deals involving mediocre players will never get old to me. You'd have thought we just dealt away a some crazy talented asset for nothing. Tell me then, what would you have considered to be an acceptable package in return?


I don't overreact to deals. You got the wrong guy there, buddy. I've never overrated mediocre Knicks prospects or downright scrubs like Mardy Collins and Tony Wroten over the years as others have. This isn't about that.

1. You don't trade Willy Hernangomez, who is 23 years old, on a team going nowhere. We are 'rebuilding', aren't we? Do you know many rebuilding teams trading 23 year olds and keeping veterans? Especially ones on team-friendly contracts.

2. Willy was worth more than 2 useless 2nd round picks, which have little value in the league. A late first or a young raw prospect would have been a much better return than 2 2nds which will potentially end up in useless trades for Elfrid Payton or used to draft Andy Rautins and Eric Chenowith.

3. Willy could have gained playing time with all the recent injuries and been inserted into the tanking lineup, padded his stats, and gained some additional value so that he could be packaged in a larger deal this summer.

We did not maximize Hernangomez's value. Even that small value that it is - it was not maximized. That's a failure by the front office. Willy should not have been the first to go. Not even close.
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#449 » by Tron Carter » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:29 pm

DaGawd wrote:So uh...Kinda bittersweet if we get Luka now with his boy Willy gone...


lmao still got love for Willy but nah.. it will be just sweet. Very sweet.
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#450 » by Capn'O » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:29 pm

Mecca wrote:Funniest thing about this was that there were posters that wouldn't have included Willy in a deal for Kyrie lolol


Sark and I have addressed this a thousand times. Our entire point was that his value wasn't enough to even get the conversation goink. And here we are.
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#451 » by Drazen8 » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:29 pm

Watch Charlotte flip him for a first.
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#452 » by TheGreenArrow » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:29 pm

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I'll say it again this is not a bad trade at all.
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#453 » by iLovethosedamnknicks » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:29 pm

THIS DEAL IS EH....WHATEVER

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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#454 » by NYKnicksFTW » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:30 pm

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The jury is out on Perry, but Mills is a yes man for Dolan.

Say what you want about Phil, but at least Dolan didn't meddle in basketball affairs when Phil was GM

That's because Phil was never answering his phone.


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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#455 » by HEZI » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:30 pm

Mecca wrote:Funniest thing about this was that there were posters that wouldn't have included Willy in a deal for Kyrie lolol


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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#456 » by DOT » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:30 pm

Whether or not we could've gotten something better right now is besides the point

The point is this was the worst time to trade him, as we could've got more value over the summer, or if he had played actual minutes
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#457 » by KnickLeDime » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:30 pm

This deal will look better from an optics perspective if some of the vets are dealt. If vets aren't dealt...this isn't a rebuild.
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#458 » by Mecca » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:30 pm

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Mecca wrote:Funniest thing about this was that there were posters that wouldn't have included Willy in a deal for Kyrie lolol


Sark and I have addressed this a thousand times. Our entire point was that his value wasn't enough to even get the conversation goink. And here we are.


His value was never enough to get it going so it was a moot point yes. But there were posters that wouldn't have even offered it to the Cavs. I'm just saying homegrown over-infatuation than anything
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#459 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:31 pm

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Such hacks. Obviously.


Interesting to see a guy like Lowe who is very connected say this was a good haul. Knows stuff we don't about what actually is the market for bigs....
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#460 » by F N 11 » Wed Feb 7, 2018 5:31 pm

Tbh Willy Low key a headcase. Was out in the media about his playing time. Like what have you done ?
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