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Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6

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What is Aaron Gordon worth?

$25-29m a year ($29m is max)
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$20-25m a year
6
10%
$18-20m a year
11
19%
$15-18m a year
19
33%
$12-15m a year
18
31%
Less than $12m a year
4
7%
 
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#841 » by harshey1388 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:15 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Can't wait for Isaiah Thomas v Lavar Ball.


Apparently Thomas' agent already texted someone at ESPN saying "he isn't coming off the bench"

LA drama already. But they don't have to keep him, isn't Thomas a FA this off season?
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#842 » by Book1Nation » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:17 pm

Golanator wrote:We have like 4 2nds this year, if we can flip 2 of them for Elfrid Payton, do it.


Took one less 2nd than I proposed, even better :D
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#843 » by MathiasPW » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:18 pm

kennydorglas wrote:dont look now, but elfrid has a .564TS% this season


..on 11 PPG...he doesn´t shoot much, mostly layups.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#844 » by Kerrsed » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:18 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
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Saberestar wrote:They are getting younger. Probably to stay ready when LeBron says that he is gone.

Not sure if they are better than the Celtics.




Without LeBron Cavs still nice.

Love, Hood, Clarkson, picks... Love goes back being a 25/12 big man and he has shooters to help him. They just need depth... And with high picks They can surround the team with more talent.


Brooklyn ping pong balls will probably win the lottery and Doncic goes to Cleveland and then the Lakers ping pong balls will win the 2nd pick and Ayton will go to Boston. That's the type of stuff that happens in the NBA....Boston/Cleveland top two picks....and especially the Suns since we traded one of them. Meanwhile, we will drop from 5th to 8th.


That Lakers pick is protected remember? 2-5 it goes to Philly, 6-30 goes to Boston, so its impossible for the Celtics to get the #2 pick.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#845 » by BobbieL » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:19 pm

Golanator wrote:
Golanator wrote:We have like 4 2nds this year, if we can flip 2 of them for Elfrid Payton, do it.


Took one less 2nd than I proposed, even better :D


So, he is an RFA next year

We can give him the QO

Or if he shows something with DBooker - maybe he gets a deal. If Sweet Lou got 24/3 - I would not think Payton would deserve much more. Which might be a nice three year deal
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#846 » by BobbieL » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:20 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
1UPZ wrote:


Without LeBron Cavs still nice.

Love, Hood, Clarkson, picks... Love goes back being a 25/12 big man and he has shooters to help him. They just need depth... And with high picks They can surround the team with more talent.


Brooklyn ping pong balls will probably win the lottery and Doncic goes to Cleveland and then the Lakers ping pong balls will win the 2nd pick and Ayton will go to Boston. That's the type of stuff that happens in the NBA....Boston/Cleveland top two picks....and especially the Suns since we traded one of them. Meanwhile, we will drop from 5th to 8th.


That Lakers pick is protected remember? 2-5 it goes to Philly, 6-30 goes to Boston, so its impossible for the Celtics to get the #2 pick.


other way around, 1 or 6-30 - Philly
2-5 it goes to Boston
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#847 » by darealjuice » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:20 pm

Shout out to Memphis for holding onto Tyreke Evans!
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#848 » by King4Day » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:22 pm

Mauro Pedrosa wrote:OMG I'M SO HAPPY THAT WE TRADED ELFRID



Realistically he should be a very good backup PG for you guys


He's probably going to be our starter AND first PG off the bench :)
Our depth is that bad
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#849 » by ATTL » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:22 pm

Good trade. Very good trade. Taking a chance on Payton for a 2nd is pretty amazing.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#850 » by bwgood77 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:24 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
harshey1388 wrote:Good deal if only a 2nd rounder.


And its Memphises 2nd rounder at that!


Is that a good thing? That's one of our two best second rounders. Not saying the deal is bad, but the Memphis pick is 36 right now, while our's is 35...our others are 52 and 57.

I wonder what he will command in RFA? Probably won't get an offer so hopefully McD doesn't give him another Brandon Knight type deal, even though Knight's was done before the cap spike. Market should be very soft for him.

Wow, I didn't realize hew as shooting so well this season. His TS% is the same as Booker's. He is shooting 37.3% from 3 and 54.5% from 2 with 6.3 apg.

He's also feisty and not bad defensively.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#851 » by BobbieL » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:28 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
harshey1388 wrote:Good deal if only a 2nd rounder.


And its Memphises 2nd rounder at that!


Is that a good thing? That's one of our two best second rounders. Not saying the deal is bad, but the Memphis pick is 36 right now, while our's is 35...our others are 52 and 57.

I wonder what he will command in RFA? Probably won't get an offer so hopefully McD doesn't give him another Brandon Knight type deal, even though Knight's was done before the cap spike. Market should be very soft for him.

Wow, I didn't realize hew as shooting so well this season. His TS% is the same as Booker's. He is shooting 37.3% from 3 and 54.5% from 2 with 6.3 apg.

He's also feisty and not bad defensively.


I always thought for Mudiay or Payton, it would take one of the two second rounders, Grizz or Suns - hopefully the lower of the two. I am okay with it. Suns still have a second rounder to trade or to get a player at top of second round.

Zero reason to give him a Knight deal. IF he plays well enough - is the Lou Williams figures a good contract for Payton. I know, getting ahead of myself.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#852 » by ATTL » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:29 pm

So we got Payton and troy Daniels for free basically?
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#853 » by bwgood77 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:30 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Worth while kick the tires move on Payton. If he stinks they can just non tender him this summer. He has tallent just never learned to shoot.


As far as shooting goes, check this out... http://bkref.com/tiny/VVNr8

TS% pretty good

Nice backcourt...over 11 apg.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#854 » by Midnight_Suns » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:32 pm

Payton should shave his head as a symbol for a fresh start.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#855 » by Waylay13 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:32 pm

ATTL wrote:So we got Payton and troy Daniels for free basically?


We still have to pay them.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#856 » by gaspar » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:34 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
harshey1388 wrote:Good deal if only a 2nd rounder.


And its Memphises 2nd rounder at that!


Is that a good thing? That's one of our two best second rounders. Not saying the deal is bad, but the Memphis pick is 36 right now, while our's is 35...our others are 52 and 57.

I wonder what he will command in RFA? Probably won't get an offer so hopefully McD doesn't give him another Brandon Knight type deal, even though Knight's was done before the cap spike. Market should be very soft for him.

Wow, I didn't realize hew as shooting so well this season. His TS% is the same as Booker's. He is shooting 37.3% from 3 and 54.5% from 2 with 6.3 apg.

He's also feisty and not bad defensively.

The pick we got form Memphis was 2nd most favorable of MEM, CHA and MIA 2nd round picks, so right now it's CHA's 2nd - #41.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#857 » by MathiasPW » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:34 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
harshey1388 wrote:Good deal if only a 2nd rounder.


And its Memphises 2nd rounder at that!


Wow, I didn't realize hew as shooting so well this season. His TS% is the same as Booker's. He is shooting 37.3% from 3 and 54.5% from 2 with 6.3 apg.

He's also feisty and not bad defensively.


I assumed he was shooting closer to the hoop more often , therefore increasing his efficiency, but he is actually shooting a carreer low volume on 0-3ft, so he might actually be just shooting better. 90% of his 3 PTers are assisted, though, so we´ll still see a Ullis-like effect of defenses challenging him to take a three-pointer.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#858 » by Mauro Pedrosa » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:34 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
Mauro Pedrosa wrote:OMG I'M SO HAPPY THAT WE TRADED ELFRID



Realistically he should be a very good backup PG for you guys


He's probably going to be our starter AND first PG off the bench :)
Our depth is that bad

Yes, I had the pleasure of having Ulis on my fantasy team so I know how much help you guys need.

Elfrid is an elite finisher around the basket and good slasher but doesn't have many other skills. Wishing him good luck on his new team
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#859 » by bwgood77 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:35 pm

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Kerrsed wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Brooklyn ping pong balls will probably win the lottery and Doncic goes to Cleveland and then the Lakers ping pong balls will win the 2nd pick and Ayton will go to Boston. That's the type of stuff that happens in the NBA....Boston/Cleveland top two picks....and especially the Suns since we traded one of them. Meanwhile, we will drop from 5th to 8th.


That Lakers pick is protected remember? 2-5 it goes to Philly, 6-30 goes to Boston, so its impossible for the Celtics to get the #2 pick.


other way around, 1 or 6-30 - Philly
2-5 it goes to Boston


Yeah, that's why I didn't have the Lakers pick getting #1, because then it would go to Philly....though of course they don't need more high picks either...
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6 

Post#860 » by LukasBMW » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:36 pm

Your lineup for the rest of the season:

Payton/Ulis
Booker/Daniels/Reed
TJ/JJ/Dudley
Chriss/Bender
Tyson/Len/Sauce

I love it! Kick the tires on another "pass first" PG and move Ulis back to the bench where he can focus on torching second units.
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