Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas

[bud29]

The idea seems to be holding onto these guys to build more value. We can possibly flip a lot these like DMC, Joey at the next deadline. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are already trying to position themselves to tank for Reddish and RJ Barrett.


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yeah if the Nets plan to tank in 2019 i'm done. whats the point of watching this team if this is even remotely in their plans? how many years of being trash should we have to be.

if this is the strategy, and all of this is a waste of time.

I believe Marks was pretty adamant at the beginning of the season that tanking was not in the plans next year. I'd be very surprised if that changes.

[MrDollarBills]

The idea seems to be holding onto these guys to build more value. We can possibly flip a lot these like DMC, Joey at the next deadline. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are already trying to position themselves to tank for Reddish and RJ Barrett.


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yeah if the Nets plan to tank in 2019 i'm done. whats the point of watching this team if this is even remotely in their plans? how many years of being trash should we have to be.

if this is the strategy, and all of this is a waste of time.

I believe Marks was pretty adamant at the beginning of the season that tanking was not in the plans next year. I'd be very surprised if that changes.

Sean Marks only has a 4 year contract, yet we have more than one person on here suggesting that the Nets should or will engage in a rebuild that would take literally over a decade involving some high school kids who haven't played a minute on Div 1 NCAA level versus legitimate talent. if the Nets roll that way, i'd gladly be done with rooting for this team. why are we even watching this team now if the point is to kick the can down the road? seriously. all of this would be a waste of time. i'd be shocked if thats where the Nets go

[bud29]

yeah if the Nets plan to tank in 2019 i'm done. whats the point of watching this team if this is even remotely in their plans? how many years of being trash should we have to be.

if this is the strategy, and all of this is a waste of time.

I believe Marks was pretty adamant at the beginning of the season that tanking was not in the plans next year. I'd be very surprised if that changes.

Sean Marks only has a 4 year contract, yet we have more than one person on here suggesting that the Nets should or will engage in a rebuild that would take literally over a decade involving some high school kids who haven't played a minute on Div 1 NCAA level versus legitimate talent. if the Nets roll that way, i'd gladly be done with rooting for this team. why are we even watching this team now if the point is to kick the can down the road? seriously. all of this would be a waste of time. i'd be shocked if thats where the Nets go

Yeah, he's been very aggressive in trying to build this team with young talent despite not having our picks, and suddenly tanking would run counter to virtually everything he's done so far, IMO. I mean, I get the appeal to some fans - we all know this is a superstar league, and our path to getting multiple superstars seems impossible if we're picking in the back half of the lottery. It's very easy to see a scenario where this rebuild peaks with a 45-win team or so. It's also easy to look at a team like Philly, their future extremely bright with Simmons and Embiid, and wanna be like them. It just doesn't make sense given all our moves in the past couple years, though.

[IceManBK1]

The idea seems to be holding onto these guys to build more value. We can possibly flip a lot these like DMC, Joey at the next deadline. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are already trying to position themselves to tank for Reddish and RJ Barrett.


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yeah if the Nets plan to tank in 2019 i'm done. whats the point of watching this team if this is even remotely in their plans? how many years of being trash should we have to be.

if this is the strategy, and all of this is a waste of time.

we are low key tanking..just that we don't have our pick this year

[IceManBK1]

I hope Lebron leaves Cavs..so they go on a firesale and we trade for K-Love who's the perfect stretch 4 for this system.
2018-2019 lineup
Lin
Dlo
RHJ
K-Love
Allen

Lin? Dinwiddie is clearly better. what??

i can predict the future. Dinweedie will traded for a high 1st rounder..

[Paradise]

yeah if the Nets plan to tank in 2019 i'm done. whats the point of watching this team if this is even remotely in their plans? how many years of being trash should we have to be.

if this is the strategy, and all of this is a waste of time.

I believe Marks was pretty adamant at the beginning of the season that tanking was not in the plans next year. I'd be very surprised if that changes.

Sean Marks only has a 4 year contract, yet we have more than one person on here suggesting that the Nets should or will engage in a rebuild that would take literally over a decade involving some high school kids who haven't played a minute on Div 1 NCAA level versus legitimate talent. if the Nets roll that way, i'd gladly be done with rooting for this team. why are we even watching this team now if the point is to kick the can down the road? seriously. all of this would be a waste of time. i'd be shocked if thats where the Nets go

We’re not going to win a lot of games next year either. It doesn’t mean we got to outright tank but some guys who might be eligible for a payday could get moved for 1st round picks.

We could come back in 2020 with Russell / LeVert / Reddish / RHJ / Allen or Russell / Dinwiddie / LeVert / Williamson / Allen. That’s not including the 2018 1st prospect.

Cam Reddish is a PG/Melo 2.0 scoring level talent with vision. Russell/LeVert/Reddish immediately becomes a serious core wing trio.

Zion Williamson/Jarrett Allen creates Lob City Brooklyn with LeVert, Russell running PnR.

As we sure we don’t want a shot at a couple elite talent? The talent in 2019 is franchise altering. I’d say it’s a lot more appealing than this class regardless of what the hype is. 50% of this class will transfer to next class like Bagley is a possibility of staying as he’s not even in the Top 5 prospect mocks right now.

R.J. Barrett, Cam Reddish, Zion Williamson, Romeo Langford are guys with elite athleticism and all-star upside. I’d say Barrett, Reddish, Langford, Bol Bol have superstar the most upside.

Some of these kids are ahead of the curve but don’t want to rush their process. Bagley should’ve stayed in the 2019 class instead of trying to jump and reclassify and right now, he’s putting up somewhat empty stats.

[bws94]

I love it. Cunningham fills a need and he is a veteran. That's what I wanted to see. Another veteran on the team.

[bws94]

I hope Lebron leaves Cavs..so they go on a firesale and we trade for K-Love who's the perfect stretch 4 for this system.
2018-2019 lineup
Lin
Dlo
RHJ
K-Love
Allen

Don't want Love.

[LKIRNets]

Well b/c someone opted to opt in, we have 15M to work wit.

Okafor, Stauskas, Harris.

[bws94]

I hope Lebron leaves Cavs..so they go on a firesale and we trade for K-Love who's the perfect stretch 4 for this system.
2018-2019 lineup
Lin
Dlo
RHJ
K-Love
Allen

Lin? Dinwiddie is clearly better. what??

i can predict the future. Dinweedie will traded for a high 1st rounder..

It's Dinwiddie. I respect the heck out Dinwiddie. And he's a heck of a player. He also is now the leader on this team IMO.

[LKIRNets]

I hope Lebron leaves Cavs..so they go on a firesale and we trade for K-Love who's the perfect stretch 4 for this system.
2018-2019 lineup
Lin
Dlo
RHJ
K-Love
Allen

Lin? Dinwiddie is clearly better. what??

i can predict the future. Dinweedie will traded for a high 1st rounder..

#7 has an expiring contract. If you want Love you put him in the deal. Dinwiddie and you need recognize is part of the long term solution here.

[MrDollarBills]

I believe Marks was pretty adamant at the beginning of the season that tanking was not in the plans next year. I'd be very surprised if that changes.

Sean Marks only has a 4 year contract, yet we have more than one person on here suggesting that the Nets should or will engage in a rebuild that would take literally over a decade involving some high school kids who haven't played a minute on Div 1 NCAA level versus legitimate talent. if the Nets roll that way, i'd gladly be done with rooting for this team. why are we even watching this team now if the point is to kick the can down the road? seriously. all of this would be a waste of time. i'd be shocked if thats where the Nets go

We’re not going to win a lot of games next year either. It doesn’t mean we got to outright tank but some guys who might be eligible for a payday could get moved for 1st round picks.

We could come back in 2020 with Russell / LeVert / Reddish / RHJ / Allen or Russell / Dinwiddie / LeVert / Williamson / Allen. That’s not including the 2018 1st prospect.

Cam Reddish is a PG/Melo 2.0 scoring level talent with vision. Russell/LeVert/Reddish immediately becomes a serious core wing trio.

Zion Williamson/Jarrett Allen creates Lob City Brooklyn with LeVert, Russell running PnR.

As we sure we don’t want a shot at a couple elite talent? The talent in 2019 is franchise altering. I’d say it’s a lot more appealing than this class regardless of what the hype is. 50% of this class will transfer to next class like Bagley is a possibility of staying as he’s not even in the Top 5 prospect mocks right now.

R.J. Barrett, Cam Reddish, Zion Williamson, Romeo Langford are guys with elite athleticism and all-star upside. I’d say Barrett, Reddish, Langford, Bol Bol have superstar the most upside.

Some of these kids are ahead of the curve but don’t want to rush their process. Bagley should’ve stayed in the 2019 class instead of trying to jump and reclassify and right now, he’s putting up somewhat empty stats.

if we are a lottery team next year, which we might just be, that's fine. but I don't want the Nets purposely tanking at a chance to get hyped up high schoolers. I need to see how Zion does at Duke. He is an intriguing prospect no doubt but I want to see what how his game looks against guys who aren't 102 lbs soaking wet

if someone gets moved, it needs to be for actual value and not because the Nets don't want to pay them. trading RHJ or Dinwiddie for the 20th pick in the draft is utter bull **** and i'd be livid. not sure how everyone else feels but i think our core group should yield some value in trades.

[TheNetsFan]

The idea seems to be holding onto these guys to build more value. We can possibly flip a lot these like DMC, Joey at the next deadline. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are already trying to position themselves to tank for Reddish and RJ Barrett.


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yeah if the Nets plan to tank in 2019 i'm done. whats the point of watching this team if this is even remotely in their plans? how many years of being trash should we have to be.

if this is the strategy, and all of this is a waste of time.

Don't be surprised if it happens. Are we ready to commit $60mil to DLo, Dinwiddie & RHJ, and then big money to LeVert the following year? We have some nice pieces, but even if they all keep developing, I don't see this core competing with Boston, Philly or Milwaukee in a few years. So what are the options? Grow into mediocrity, combine a few young guys to try and trade for a star, or trade a few young guys for picks, tank & draft high, and then try to add a star with cap space or via trade? As painful as it would be to stretch out the rebuild, the last option is likely the safest/smartest option.

I think the 2020 offseason might be the targeted point for a big move in time. DWill, Mozgov & Crabbe will all be off the books. Allen will still be on his rookie deal, and LeVert will have a reasonable cap hold. That also allows for 2 years of our own picks, and to potentially take on more salary dumps utilizing the soon to be expirings of Lin & Carroll. We can debate who the future core should be, but let's say we hypothetically get 1sts for RHJ & Dinwiddie, retain DLo, acquire at least one additional salary dump 1st, have top 7 picks in 2019 & 2020 & have cap space for two maxes in 2020. At that point, things look extremely bright.

Hinkie's process started in 2013 & it's just starting to bear fruit (after 4 seasons). He started from a much better base. To think Marks could turn things around faster starting with no picks is unrealistic. At least we've gotten an enjoyable product to watch this year, but we'll likely have to take a step backwards before being able to take two leaps forward.

[Keith Van Horn]

I think it's reasonable to think that the Nets should continue to be in asset acquisition mode until 2020, and in the 2019 draft they'll be in the high lotto, then in 2020 they'll be in the late lotto - teens pick, and then we've got a real team established by then... beyond just having a core of 3-4 guys.

[LKIRNets]

I think it's reasonable to think that the Nets should continue to be in asset acquisition mode until 2020, and in the 2019 draft they'll be in the high lotto, then in 2020 they'll be in the late lotto - teens pick, and then we've got a real team established by then... beyond just having a core of 3-4 guys.

Which is why I said their target is 2020.

[treiz]

yeah if the Nets plan to tank in 2019 i'm done. whats the point of watching this team if this is even remotely in their plans? how many years of being trash should we have to be.

if this is the strategy, and all of this is a waste of time.

Don't think tanking has ever been part of the plans for Marks, but unfortunately our overall talent level is still pretty low and our record next year will likely be similar to what we'll have this year and that's not exactly a bad thing since the priority right now is to develop what we have.

We need to search every nook and cranny to try and acquire as many high-quality assets as possible.

[Keith Van Horn]

I think it's reasonable to think that the Nets should continue to be in asset acquisition mode until 2020, and in the 2019 draft they'll be in the high lotto, then in 2020 they'll be in the late lotto - teens pick, and then we've got a real team established by then... beyond just having a core of 3-4 guys.

Which is why I said their target is 2020.

But I think they can make bank in 2019 too. They'll def be in the lottery next year with their own pick (top 8?), and then they might be able to move Lin and/or Carroll to get another pick in the same draft (18-22 range maybe?).

Having 2 strong rookies after next season would be amazing but it also means more dead money would be coming back through 2020, which probably means another solid pick in 2020.

[LKIRNets]

I think it's reasonable to think that the Nets should continue to be in asset acquisition mode until 2020, and in the 2019 draft they'll be in the high lotto, then in 2020 they'll be in the late lotto - teens pick, and then we've got a real team established by then... beyond just having a core of 3-4 guys.

Which is why I said their target is 2020.

But I think they can make bank in 2019 too. They'll def be in the lottery next year with their own pick (top 8?), and then they might be able to move Lin and/or Carroll to get another pick in the same draft (18-22 range maybe?).

Having 2 strong rookies after next season would be amazing but it also means more dead money would be coming back through 2020, which probably means another solid pick in 2020.

Real talk tho. Since Lin signed the option. Doesn't it make sense to trade him draft night for that extra 1st rd. pick and shed 12.5M off the salary? like the Thadeus deal.

[Keith Van Horn]

Which is why I said their target is 2020.

But I think they can make bank in 2019 too. They'll def be in the lottery next year with their own pick (top 8?), and then they might be able to move Lin and/or Carroll to get another pick in the same draft (18-22 range maybe?).

Having 2 strong rookies after next season would be amazing but it also means more dead money would be coming back through 2020, which probably means another solid pick in 2020.

Real talk tho. Since Lin signed the option. Doesn't it make sense to trade him draft night for that extra 1st rd. pick and shed 12.5M off the salary? like the Thadeus deal.

That's be an good situation... but don't you think other GMs might be hesitant to take him back for the year, even as an expiring, if he hasn't shown anything within the last year?

I'd say hold out, let him come back and play a few months with the Nets, then around Jan look to trade him for salary and a 2019 1st. That way Marks and Co. can really dive deep into analyzing the '19 draft class, having 2 picks then.

Do this with either him OR Carroll.

[JiggaMan06]

The only teams who would be willing to take a Expiring PG contract are the ones who will draft one in June (Suns, Magic). But injuries do happen so I think we hold onto to him until next trade deadline and ship him to a team who needs him. I would love a second 1st round pick this year or next but we'll see what Mark pulls off. Just hope we can get to 28-30 wins this season for morale sake.