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WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds

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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#1081 » by Knicks Byke » Thu Feb 8, 2018 5:29 pm

OpiumDose wrote:Awful trade that just further proves FO incompetence. So in the off-season there were all these talks about how KP and Willy would be our starters this season and how they would grow together, right? WHG had a really solid rookie season - was rookie of the month in April, made All-Rookie 1st team. Then in the summer played pretty solid on his national team (7.6 pts, 5.9 rebs in 13.9 mins). Then comes the NBA season and he is suddenly not good enough to get any playtime? On a team that was supposed to be all about youth (according to our GM)? I can completely understand him playing behind Kanter, but not getting any playtime at all (except some scraps in garbage time) doesn't make any sense to me. And you could argue that KOQ was better, but who cares? He will be 28 in couple of months, he is not the future of this team. And I know that some people excused playing KOQ so much with an argument that we are showcasing him to trade him. Well, hasn't happened until know. Instead we traded 23 year old WHG and KOQ is still here. And even if we all agreed that WHG was probably not amount to much in todays NBA due to his play style and weak defense it still doesn't make any sense to trade him NOW. Why traded him at his lowest value. It's ridiculous. If FO knew at the start of the season that they are not going to play him then why not trade him then? We would have gotten way more for him at that point. It just reeks of incompetence. Look at it as you want - we either should have let WHG play at least the same amount of meaningful minutes as KOQ - only then we could make any assessments of whether he actually is any good (or has potential to improve) - now we basically based our opinions on his performance in some garbage time minutes and on some rumors that he was totally outplayed by KOQ and Kanter in the practice. Or we should have traded him when his value was at the high. But what happened here was a complete disaster and FO failure. Knicks being Knicks.



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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#1082 » by DrCoach » Thu Feb 8, 2018 6:29 pm

Well will, no major 1st picks were traded
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#1083 » by magnumt » Thu Feb 8, 2018 7:17 pm

The Boshstrich wrote:not even a 2nd round pick for Mudiay? lmao


Neither Okafor nor Mudiay got their teams picks, but WillyG netter the Knicks TWO likely high future 2nds.

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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#1084 » by mwm78 » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:28 pm

I still don't get this trade, he is a young player that they said they liked before the season and than never played him (well barely)... don't quite get what they were thinking here and to only get 2nd round picks in 2020/21 and they released the other guy they obtained... head scratcher.. guess they didn't like his defense.... surprised C. Lee and O'quinn and Jack are still here though, maybe they release Jack to free up time for their 3 headed youngster PG's.
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#1085 » by BrOnXKing1 » Fri Feb 9, 2018 12:05 am

This is one of the worst trades of many this franchise makes. We don't know what Willie can do if he gets minutes but dude has potential. Yet we trade him on a great contract so know we can overpay Kanter SMH.

Kanter or OQuinn should of been traded instead
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#1086 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Feb 9, 2018 12:37 am

Bad trade. My personal theory is Dolan got pissed at WHG always being in the paper and combined with too many C's on the roster, basically told Mills\Perry he's the one to go, get it done.

Just a theory, though some interpret it as me making excuses for the regime. Even though I'm leading off with "bad trade".
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#1087 » by Guano » Fri Feb 9, 2018 5:11 am

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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#1088 » by FutureKnicksGM » Fri Feb 9, 2018 1:43 pm

NY 567 wrote:I think people are missing the point about this trade. It's isn't about how bad or good WHG actually is, it's about his perceived value across the league at the moment. His value after his rookie year could have netted a solid package. Playing him now with KP out would have inflated his numbers and increased his value in the offseason. DNPing him all year shot his value to zero, which is why it was the wrong time to move him. It's why we got nothing for him


Everyone gets this except our F. O apparently.

Fricken Larry Nance got a first and a bad contract dump.
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#1089 » by fresko024 » Fri Feb 9, 2018 4:23 pm

I would've loved to keep WHG but he requested a trade publicly so why keep a disgruntled player around? Albeit, his contract was very reasonable.

That being said, I think 2 second round picks is good value for someone who barely played this year. The FO must either think they can replace him in the draft this year or maybe they see something in Kornet, who is on a 2 way contract.
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Re: WHG traded to hornets for O'Bryant and two 2nds 

Post#1090 » by F N 11 » Fri Feb 9, 2018 4:45 pm

The moment you realize second round picks are worth something these days.
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