bwgood77 wrote:NavLDO wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
I haven't followed closely enough. I always kind of liked him, but he does make $207 million (including this year) through 2023, so I think I'd rather find a cheaper way to go for now...I do imagine if they want to move on from him though they may not get a great package back (like with Blake) considering how everyone has bad contracts and need to get rid of them and want to hang onto picks, etc.
If we got a big in the draft and didn't find a good PG later or in FA though and they felt they were just as good or better without him and just wanted out of the big deal, next year we could send them two expirings in Dudley and Chandler plus one that expired the following year in Knight to match contracts, along with a first or two. I don't think they'd need a wing with Beal, Oubre and Porter. They might want a PF though.
This would only be if we felt this was the best use of our cap space and if we had already signed the extension so didn't have much cap space in 19 and the only way to get a star was to do something like this.
I still hope to find our star in the draft and that the ones we have drafted the last two years become really good players by the time they are Warren's age when he turned it up a notch...or maybe sooner.
I think JJ absolutely will. I think Bender and Chriss both have a chance, but not if they both remain on this team, and both stay at PF...meaning, that one of them doesn't get the starting gig, while the other continues to prosper as PF for us moving forward.
It would be great if both Bender and Chiss really turned the corner over the off-season; maybe we get a rookie PG, and they get another SL in (Can they still play?? Not sure of the rules) and show some growth.
It would be really awesome if Chriss could be plugged in at Center, Bender played Stretch 4, JJ played 3, Booker, his 2, and Doncic or Young (and I'd argue, Draft Shamet with the first available 2nd Rd pick we have) at the 1, so we always have shooters, even when Warren comes in (hopefully, he is ok with my biggest fear of being pi$$ed about being pushed to a 6th man role), and still plays 28-30 minutes a night, that's ok, because we don't lose having shooting on the floor, because Chriss and Bender can hit the 3, and have to be respected, and JJ is coming around, and no reason to think he won't be at least a 35-37% 3PT shooter. Chriss will be too...I'm not worried in the least about that; it's his maturity.
We'd just have to make sure if Warren and Sauce are on the floor at the same time, that whoever our backup SG is, is a real threat (Reed, if he's the guy, should be more than capable as his college stats proved as an 83% FT shooter as a Senior and 40% from 3). So something like:
Shamet / Reed / Warren / Bender / Sauce...or...Young / Reed / JJ / Warren / Sauce
Anyway, sounds good on paper...we'll see...
Well, JJ and Warren playing the same position is another problem. I know they are not now because we don't have a real PG, or with Booker out, but McD said the Booker pg thing is not a long term thing and their goal is to get one.
They have been playing Chriss and Bender together some. Y
ou might take some time from the boards to watch a game tonight. Your man Len is starting which also means that Bender will likely slide to C when Len sits and him and Chriss will play together. It happened a bit last game.
I still don't know why you think two guys who play the same position cannot develop at the same time when you need to go at least 8 deep....even with 8 deep....that would avg 30 mpg each..for all 8...but avg 27 mpg for 9, 24 for 10, etc. They could easily each get close to 30 if they play together a bit in the front court. Especially when they start to fill out..
I'd love to, but I'm in bed by the time the games actually start, since I'm on EST, and have to get up every morning at 4:45, so I watch what I can the following morning. Sorry if that doesn't meet your threshold for being an informed enough fan to post on these forums. Not all of us can live, breath, and eat Suns games; if you notice...MOST times, I'm on this forum, are NOT when a game is being played. More than half the time, the site I have doesn't work for streaming past games, and the other link is fraught with 'nasty' adds.
As far the rest of what you are saying, I'll again point to the FACT, not the what 'should', or 'could' be, in that Bender and Chriss are NOT getting 30, or 27 MPG...or heck, even 24 MPG, except due to Booker's injury. So when these guys
actually average 28-30 MPG, then come talk to me about how they can be developed at the same time, because so far, it's not working out that way. The ONLY reason Bender has 23 MPG is because Chriss has missed 8.5 games as of late. Otherwise, they are both averaging 21 minutes.
