Trade Deadline aka The Rapture

[Phreak50]

As an outsider looking in I like the moves your team made.

Number one was getting rid of the cancerous locker room and media leaking bs.

Number two was getting youth and athleticism and you did that as well.

George Hill has started declining from his peak but he is a very intelligent player, good defender and can play with and without the ball which should work well with Lebron.

I have seen a lot of Hood being a Utah fan and at his best he is super streaky and can go off. I think his career high threes in a game is 9 or 10 and that’s without having a superstar getting him open looks.

Not high in Clarkson but he can get buckets and Nance is solid and obviously super athletic.

Not sure if it’ll all gel by playoff time but it’s about as good as you could have done and I’m excited (and cheering) for the Cavs to make it to the finals again.

[bb22]

Maybe just me, but trading IT might be one of the biggest additions by subtractions in quite a while.

Tell me, everyone says good moves by cavs but doesn’t hood suck?

Hood is very streaky, pretty similar in a sense to what JR Smith was 5 or 10 years ago. So we'll see, overall he's better than JR and can create some offense when LeBron isn't on the court. Though Clarkson & Hood can both be chuckers at times.

I like that JR/Hood comparison.
To be honest, I don't mind "chuckers". If a chucker can use his instincts on offense and put some effort in on D, they should thrive alongside Lebron.
The cavs were at their best during that period where it was Lebron playing superhero with a bunch of role players. Now they improved those role players and shed most of the negativity.
Just moving IT, and ridding themselves of the pressure of trying to incorporate a huge liability on both ends, is a massive relief. The fact that they got a bunch of nice, young, athletic, role players is a bonus.
Losing Frye might hurt though. He was a really likeable guy (seemed to be really close with Love) and played really well during their win streak. I hope he reunites with RJ and they get their podcast back to what it was last year.

[sonic the laker]

Hello, Cleveland! Just wanted to congratulate your team on making the best moves available to them, while not surrendering your future, by giving up the Brooklyn pick. I like the players your team got in the trade, and believe it will infuse new life in that locker room, and onto the court. I sincerely believe your city...or any for that matter...deserved better than what was being presented.

Cavs fans will definitely grow to love Clarkson and Nance! Both very good, solid young players, who bring heart and effort. Hate losing those guys, but wish them the best of luck, going forward. Peace!


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[jbk1234]

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[cavs4872]

I like what they were able to do, but overall the impression I'm getting is they think the Brooklyn pick is greater than LBJ, which is ludicrous; you gotta take the sure thing. Look how Anthony Bennett turned out.

I wish they got rid of JR instead of Frye, because you know bonehead Lue is gonna start Smith over Hood, we're lacking in bigs and Frye is awesome. If you add DeAndre this is a title-contending squad; you still probably fall short to GSW, but at least you tried. He's the only ingredient you're missing.

This team needs Andy Varejao more than ever. He and Big Z were the most shafted players in Cavs history, but yeah, if you could have restructured your trades and somehow got rid of JR and gotten DeAndre and even Lou Will (I don't know what he was getting paid before the deadline) it would've been smooth sailing. It would have also been nice if they could've gotten DeAndre without giving up TT, because TT backing up DJ is a nice rotation.

I don't know if Nance is a diamond in the ruff, but the one thing to be excited about is his defense. I like Hill; I think they were a little too dead set on getting him, but it's nice.

So assuming that's it, what buyout candidates or d-league signings make the most sense to fill out the roster?
Maybe Willie Reed would be a nice enforcer in the paint to add who was waived after being traded to the Bulls but he has off
court issues going on.

We'll see what happens, but looking at the news feed, Brandan Wright seems like he would be an OK pickup.

So yeah; all is not lost with the buyout market looming, but essentially your goal is getting to The Finals. If Perkins is the answer, this will be 2010 all over again.

[BobsBuddy]

Whoever dreamed up those 3 trades involving 10 players coming and going should be given a 1 Million
$$$$$$$$$$ bonus...The Cavs should win it all this year and retain LBJ another year. And you still have Brooklyn's lottery pick in 2018.

[Stillwater]

I like what they were able to do, but overall the impression I'm getting is they think the Brooklyn pick is greater than LBJ, which is ludicrous; you gotta take the sure thing. Look how Anthony Bennett turned out.

I wish they got rid of JR instead of Frye, because you know bonehead Lue is gonna start Smith over Hood, we're lacking in bigs and Frye is awesome. If you add DeAndre this is a title-contending squad; you still probably fall short to GSW, but at least you tried. He's the only ingredient you're missing.

This team needs Andy Varejao more than ever. He and Big Z were the most shafted players in Cavs history, but yeah, if you could have restructured your trades and somehow got rid of JR and gotten DeAndre and even Lou Will (I don't know what he was getting paid before the deadline) it would've been smooth sailing. It would have also been nice if they could've gotten DeAndre without giving up TT, because TT backing up DJ is a nice rotation.

I don't know if Nance is a diamond in the ruff, but the one thing to be excited about is his defense. I like Hill; I think they were a little too dead set on getting him, but it's nice.

So assuming that's it, what buyout candidates or d-league signings make the most sense to fill out the roster?
Maybe Willie Reed would be a nice enforcer in the paint to add who was waived after being traded to the Bulls but he has off
court issues going on.

We'll see what happens, but looking at the news feed, Brandan Wright seems like he would be an OK pickup.

So yeah; all is not lost with the buyout market looming, but essentially your goal is getting to The Finals. If Perkins is the answer, this will be 2010 all over again.

You are wrong about DJ as despite offering an upgrade it would only be a very slight one if he kept on the same downward arc he's been on for 2 seasons. Look up points allowed inside 5' when he's the closest defender. His numbers are worse than players paid much less in this league.
I think you will become pleasently surprised how much more easily this team wins games and how Gilbert's decision to do what he did took away any incentive LeBron had to join a younger more athletic defensive team because that's what he would now be leaving .
I'm stoked Altman/Gilbert kept what could be a superstar over a overvalued overated rental.
These moves we're the strong ones and they deserve more respect esp Gilbert for paying out that much in a midseason gamble. We will get a rim protector on the waivers. It's not like dj is any different from a shot block specialist from the streets at this point still doesn't shoot good etc. Would have liked to get Dedmon but they clearly intend to hold onto him in ATL

[jbk1234]

I like what they were able to do, but overall the impression I'm getting is they think the Brooklyn pick is greater than LBJ, which is ludicrous; you gotta take the sure thing. Look how Anthony Bennett turned out.

I wish they got rid of JR instead of Frye, because you know bonehead Lue is gonna start Smith over Hood, we're lacking in bigs and Frye is awesome. If you add DeAndre this is a title-contending squad; you still probably fall short to GSW, but at least you tried. He's the only ingredient you're missing.

This team needs Andy Varejao more than ever. He and Big Z were the most shafted players in Cavs history, but yeah, if you could have restructured your trades and somehow got rid of JR and gotten DeAndre and even Lou Will (I don't know what he was getting paid before the deadline) it would've been smooth sailing. It would have also been nice if they could've gotten DeAndre without giving up TT, because TT backing up DJ is a nice rotation.

I don't know if Nance is a diamond in the ruff, but the one thing to be excited about is his defense. I like Hill; I think they were a little too dead set on getting him, but it's nice.

So assuming that's it, what buyout candidates or d-league signings make the most sense to fill out the roster?
Maybe Willie Reed would be a nice enforcer in the paint to add who was waived after being traded to the Bulls but he has off
court issues going on.

We'll see what happens, but looking at the news feed, Brandan Wright seems like he would be an OK pickup.

So yeah; all is not lost with the buyout market looming, but essentially your goal is getting to The Finals. If Perkins is the answer, this will be 2010 all over again.

TT and Love, when they play together, are still formidable. Our inability to keep any guard in the league out of the paint was just killing us. Honestly, if we traded for DAJ without addressing our perimeter situation, I feel like DAJ would've just fouled out by halftime. Young teams were running us out of the gym.

[SmokeyK]

With CLE the biggest thing that stood out to me was them offering the NETS pick for Dinwiddie...

If that’s the case what on Wolves do you think would get them the Nets pick?


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[jbk1234]

With CLE the biggest thing that stood out to me was them offering the NETS pick for Dinwiddie...

If that’s the case what on Wolves do you think would get them the Nets pick?


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Cavs offered their 1st for Dinwiddie. I might offer the Nets 1st for Butler but he's rumored to want to partner up with Kyrie so I'm not sure I'd do even that.

[Stillwater]

With CLE the biggest thing that stood out to me was them offering the NETS pick for Dinwiddie...

If that’s the case what on Wolves do you think would get them the Nets pick?


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Yeah Dinwiddie isn't even worth a first despite his play this year although we obviously thought he was. Giving the Nets their pick back for Dinwiddie would have been like giving up Love for a couple of g-league bench players.

[zimpy27]

Good start

[Ainosterhaspie]

Just watching m the Celtics game they look so much faster on offense. They were in slow motion before and now they are zipping around. They desperately needed youth and energy and now they have it.

[loveandbeer]

Didn’t like the Lakers trade at first but props to the team for moving forward from IT quickly and not being under some sort of sunk cost fallacy.

[NoZoLakers]

Didn’t like the Lakers trade at first but props to the team for moving forward from IT quickly and not being under some sort of sunk cost fallacy.

Nance will exceed the value on clev end...hes better than anyone clev couldve picked with their pick

[Stillwater]

Didn’t like the Lakers trade at first but props to the team for moving forward from IT quickly and not being under some sort of sunk cost fallacy.

Nance will exceed the value on clev end...hes better than anyone clev couldve picked with their pick

already proving to be true and if the Cavs keep it up that pick isn't worth much

[NoZoLakers]

Didn’t like the Lakers trade at first but props to the team for moving forward from IT quickly and not being under some sort of sunk cost fallacy.

Nance will exceed the value on clev end...hes better than anyone clev couldve picked with their pick

already proving to be true and if the Cavs keep it up that pick isn't worth much

not to la .... that pick could help us drop that sack of poop deng

[Stillwater]

Nance will exceed the value on clev end...hes better than anyone clev couldve picked with their pick

already proving to be true and if the Cavs keep it up that pick isn't worth much

not to la .... that pick could help us drop that sack of poop deng

Well I guess if any org is dumb enough to trade for him even a pick at 25-30 would probably do it.

[cavs4872]

Who else realized the same amount of players were shipped out and brought in ten years ago at the deadline?

Out: Shannon Brown, Drew Gooden, Larry Hughes, Cedric Simmons, Donyell Marshall, Ira Newble

In: Joe Smith, Ben Wallace, Wally Szczerbiak, Delonte West

Weird!

[jbk1234]

Who else realized the same amount of players were shipped out and brought in ten years ago at the deadline?

Out: Shannon Brown, Drew Gooden, Larry Hughes, Cedric Simmons, Donyell Marshall, Ira Newble

In: Joe Smith, Ben Wallace, Wally Szczerbiak, Delonte West

Weird!

That out box really is cringe worthy.