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Re: Reggie Bullock 

Post#61 » by Canadafan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:38 pm

jakebernat wrote:
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Canadafan wrote:Ugh. Why would he sign with Philly??
That's not good news for us

That's right...we're already going to be looking to cut goodteam yers to save on cost next year. Which might mean we trade SJ for a future 2nd round pick type stuff.


“...and I base this on absolutely nothing.”


Doubt SJ goes anywhere. He's much too cheap. Ish, with his expiring deal, becomes most likely dealt imo if we need cap savings. Maybe we'll luck out and find a team that has a long-term contract they wanna unload for shorter contracts in Leuer and Galloway. One can dream right? :wink:
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Re: Reggie Bullock 

Post#62 » by A_dub06 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:36 pm

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FT% has nothing to do with 3pt%, just ask Bruce Bowen, and since Bullock doesn't ever get to the line it shouldn't matter what he's shooting from there. I have no reason to think he will regress, he's a 39% shooter on 3's for his career I believe, he just shouldn't be asked to do anything more, that's what could cause a dip in his efficiency. He's this year's Allen Crabbe, luckily for us he won't be a free agent this summer so teams will have a second year to realize he's just a specialist and we won't have to pay $18 million a year to keep him around.


You do realise that FT% is often used as predictor of a players ability to develop a 3pt shot or whether their shooting is legit? It’s used on players in college, euro players and guys in the league. The fact he hits them at such a low % makes me believe that his shooting from 3 is just a hot streak, and his shooting will regress quite a bit.


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While the 50%+ shooting from all over the floor may be an aberration, his ability to be an elite floor spacer and opportunistic scorer have always been there, even dating back to his days at UNC. His biggest problem has always been staying healthy when given consistentent minutes.

He has (and always has had) one of the prettiest, most compact, and repeatable shooting strokes in the league combined with a lightening quick release. THESE are the things people base shooting ability off of, not just free throw percentages like you claim.


I said it was “often used as a predictor”, notice how I didn’t say “always used as a predictor”? I never implied it was the only basis like you’re making out by saying “just free throw percentages like you claim” so please feel free to improve your reading comprehension before twisting others words.


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Re: Reggie Bullock 

Post#63 » by jakebernat » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:50 pm

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You do realise that FT% is often used as predictor of a players ability to develop a 3pt shot or whether their shooting is legit? It’s used on players in college, euro players and guys in the league. The fact he hits them at such a low % makes me believe that his shooting from 3 is just a hot streak, and his shooting will regress quite a bit.


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While the 50%+ shooting from all over the floor may be an aberration, his ability to be an elite floor spacer and opportunistic scorer have always been there, even dating back to his days at UNC. His biggest problem has always been staying healthy when given consistentent minutes.

He has (and always has had) one of the prettiest, most compact, and repeatable shooting strokes in the league combined with a lightening quick release. THESE are the things people base shooting ability off of, not just free throw percentages like you claim.


I said it was “often used as a predictor”, notice how I didn’t say “always used as a predictor”? I never implied it was the only basis like you’re making out by saying “just free throw percentages like you claim” so please feel free to improve your reading comprehension before twisting others words.


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So what are you even arguing? That he “might” regress to an average shooter because you have a hunch? Never mind the years of advanced scouting and coaching we have...
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Re: Reggie Bullock 

Post#64 » by vege » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:05 am

Well we basically got post all star Ray Allen light in Reggie Bullock. Allen had a little bit more usage and was a better defender, but their offensive numbers and per36 are very comparable.

Bullock 52.0% FG 45.8 3%FG in 4 attempts/game 13.1 Points 3.1 Rebounds 1.7 Assists PER36 65.3 TS% 13.4 USG 1.5 OBPM -0.5 DBPM 0.8 BPM

Ray Allen 45.8% FG 45.3 3%FG in 5 attempts/game 15.1 Points 3.4 Rebounds 2.7 Assists PER36 60.7 TS% 18.6 USG 2.4 OBPM 0.3 DBPM 2.6 BPM (highest 3pont percentage in his carrer)

This was in his last year in Boston 2011-2012 season. He was playing 34 minutes while Bullock averages 25 minutes this season, so take it with a grain of salt, also Ray Allen only played 46 games.
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Re: Reggie Bullock 

Post#65 » by A_dub06 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:26 am

jakebernat wrote:
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While the 50%+ shooting from all over the floor may be an aberration, his ability to be an elite floor spacer and opportunistic scorer have always been there, even dating back to his days at UNC. His biggest problem has always been staying healthy when given consistentent minutes.

He has (and always has had) one of the prettiest, most compact, and repeatable shooting strokes in the league combined with a lightening quick release. THESE are the things people base shooting ability off of, not just free throw percentages like you claim.


I said it was “often used as a predictor”, notice how I didn’t say “always used as a predictor”? I never implied it was the only basis like you’re making out by saying “just free throw percentages like you claim” so please feel free to improve your reading comprehension before twisting others words.


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So what are you even arguing? That he “might” regress to an average shooter because you have a hunch? Never mind the years of advanced scouting and coaching we have...


A hunch? No no, I’m going off his entire career which spans greater than 4 months of decent play. I guess we will need to wait and see who ends up right on this one. FYI I do hope that I’m wrong.


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Re: Reggie Bullock 

Post#66 » by 7r5ur » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:40 am

A_dub06 wrote:
jakebernat wrote:
A_dub06 wrote:
I said it was “often used as a predictor”, notice how I didn’t say “always used as a predictor”? I never implied it was the only basis like you’re making out by saying “just free throw percentages like you claim” so please feel free to improve your reading comprehension before twisting others words.


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So what are you even arguing? That he “might” regress to an average shooter because you have a hunch? Never mind the years of advanced scouting and coaching we have...


A hunch? No no, I’m going off his entire career which spans greater than 4 months of decent play. I guess we will need to wait and see who ends up right on this one. FYI I do hope that I’m wrong.


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Bullock's issue has always been health. Every time he started to look like a quality NBA player he'd get hurt, and then he'd have a tough time working his way back. He hasn't had a span nearly this long before where's he's been able to play this much, so I think there are only two things we can get from his history:

1. He's super injury prone
2. When he's healthy he's a great shooter

Will his numbers fall? Sure, if only because his usage is going to go up, and he'll probably get more tired as the minutes pile up. 46% from three is difficult to maintain, but either way he looks like one of the best shooters in the league when healthy.
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Re: Reggie Bullock 

Post#67 » by Revived » Tue Mar 6, 2018 1:28 pm

His efficiency lately has to be a concern for SVG.
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Re: Reggie Bullock 

Post#68 » by Billl » Tue Mar 6, 2018 1:48 pm

Besides his rookie year, Bullock has shot at least 38% from 3 every year. The guy can shoot the ball. If he's got guys creating wide open 3's for him, he'll knock them down. He also moves really well without the ball and will backcut you to death if you try to overplay him for the 3. If he stays healthy, those things make him a valuable roll player. The problems only come when we start acting like he is more than that and asking him to do more stuff. Hopefully we can add enough talent that we can let our 3&D guys just be that.

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