Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread

[Jamaaliver]

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In an interview with the international hoops magazine Super EuroLeague, Doncic revealed that he’s not ready to say that this season will be his last in Europe.

“No, I can’t say that. Let’s see how this season will go. No one ever knows what the future holds.”

An old quote, but one to keep in mind regarding Doncic.

He definitely strikes me as a kid that might stay in Europe a few years longer, or that would walk away from the NBA early and spend the rest of his career back near his family...playing in Europe.

[kg01]

Luka>Hedo by a mile....and this is coming from somebody who is a Turk fan.

The concern is that, in picking top 5, we need to find someone transcendent. Finding the 2018 version of Turk, although he'd likely be better than the original, leaves us still needing to find that dude.

On the speed argument, no one needs the guy to be able to flick the light switch and be under the covers before the room goes dark. However, speed, linth and athleticism do matter and can limit the player he can become.

All I'm saying is it is a consideration. I think that's fair.

[Spud2nique]

Luka>Hedo by a mile....and this is coming from somebody who is a Turk fan.

The concern is that, in picking top 5, we need to find someone transcendent. Finding the 2018 version of Turk, although he'd likely be better than the original, leaves us still needing to find that dude.

On the speed argument, no one needs the guy to be able to flick the light switch and be under the covers before the room goes dark. However, speed, linth and athleticism do matter and can limit the player he can become.

All I'm saying is it is a consideration. I think that's fair.

I understand that I guess I’m trying to say that Luka isn’t Hedo at all...I actually hate the comparison..some people got lazy again.

I’m usually concerned about speed but not in this case...this kid looks like he knows all the angles on the court...once you get the geometry down, speed becomes a lesser concern to some degree. This kid isn’t going to go away. He should definitely be a top 2 pick...I personally would take him or Ayton.

[Spud2nique]

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In an interview with the international hoops magazine Super EuroLeague, Doncic revealed that he’s not ready to say that this season will be his last in Europe.

“No, I can’t say that. Let’s see how this season will go. No one ever knows what the future holds.”

An old quote, but one to keep in mind regarding Doncic.

He definitely strikes me as a kid that might stay in Europe a few years longer, or that would walk away from the NBA early and spend the rest of his career back near his family...playing in Europe.

OH COME ON! The one time we are gonna have a top 5 pick this guy might not come over and Porter has back surgery...smh.

[LunchBox21]

I do think Luka will come over if he knows he's gonna be picked in like.. the top 3 (which he will be). If he was going to stay at RM for longer, he could just say so and be done with it. But he's putting it off to the future, which to me says that he doesn't want to create a distraction for his team/fans right now.

[Jamaaliver]

^Or that he's still a teenager and hasn't completely made up his mind yet.


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[Jamaaliver]

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Nice lottery tool with some solid info.


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[thr3ep01nte4]

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I found this video on an interview with Doncic's NT coach, Igor Kokoskov. He said Doncic would come over immediately.

[kg01]

Luka>Hedo by a mile....and this is coming from somebody who is a Turk fan.

The concern is that, in picking top 5, we need to find someone transcendent. Finding the 2018 version of Turk, although he'd likely be better than the original, leaves us still needing to find that dude.

On the speed argument, no one needs the guy to be able to flick the light switch and be under the covers before the room goes dark. However, speed, linth and athleticism do matter and can limit the player he can become.

All I'm saying is it is a consideration. I think that's fair.

I understand that I guess I’m trying to say that Luka isn’t Hedo at all...I actually hate the comparison..some people got lazy again.

I’m usually concerned about speed but not in this case...this kid looks like he knows all the angles on the court...once you get the geometry down, speed becomes a lesser concern to some degree. This kid isn’t going to go away. He should definitely be a top 2 pick...I personally would take him or Ayton.

I don't think it's a lazy comp tho. His game (not his appearance, which would indeed be a lazy comp) reminds me of Hedo.

No way I'd take him over Ayton. That kid has ... ay ton of tools. Warts too but they all have warts.

[Spud2nique]

The concern is that, in picking top 5, we need to find someone transcendent. Finding the 2018 version of Turk, although he'd likely be better than the original, leaves us still needing to find that dude.

On the speed argument, no one needs the guy to be able to flick the light switch and be under the covers before the room goes dark. However, speed, linth and athleticism do matter and can limit the player he can become.

All I'm saying is it is a consideration. I think that's fair.

I understand that I guess I’m trying to say that Luka isn’t Hedo at all...I actually hate the comparison..some people got lazy again.

I’m usually concerned about speed but not in this case...this kid looks like he knows all the angles on the court...once you get the geometry down, speed becomes a lesser concern to some degree. This kid isn’t going to go away. He should definitely be a top 2 pick...I personally would take him or Ayton.

I don't think it's a lazy comp tho. His game (not his appearance, which would indeed be a lazy comp) reminds me of Hedo.

No way I'd take him over Ayton. That kid has ... ay ton of tools. Warts too but they all have warts.

Warts? Are they worse than the zits that were on Zaza’s back? I don’t think it could get worse than baked zitty Zaza...

[LunchBox21]

^Or that he's still a teenager and hasn't completely made up his mind yet.


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True haha. Slipped my mind entirely.

[Bob8]

Turkoglu avg. 13 points and 2.7 assists in Europe. Playing much more and being 21 years old. Doncic’s avg. is 18 points, 4.5 assists. Doncic is for sure much better passer. I would say Turkoglu can be his floor in Nba, but not ceiling.

Turkoglu in today’s game can be a perennial 20-5-5 guy. Kirilenko is another.

then Doncic is 25-7-7 guy.

[thr3ep01nte4]

Turkoglu in today’s game can be a perennial 20-5-5 guy. Kirilenko is another.

then Doncic is 25-7-7 guy.

Maybe he can get there with rebounds and assists. I can hardly see him averaging 25 points during an entire NBA season. He hasn't shown enough yet, but he definitely has the opportunity to prove me wrong.

[Bob8]

Turkoglu in today’s game can be a perennial 20-5-5 guy. Kirilenko is another.

then Doncic is 25-7-7 guy.

Maybe he can get there with rebounds and assists. I can hardly see him averaging 25 points during an entire NBA season. He hasn't shown enough yet, but he definitely has the opportunity to prove me wrong.

I haven’t seen many 18 years old prospects to show enough to believe they can average 25 points a season. There’s for sure no one this year, who is shown something similar. But this was not my point. My point is, he’s much better prospect than Turkoglu. And maybe the only one this year, who can produce good numbers from first minute.

[CP War Hawks]

He's showing more bits and pieces after every game. Pinned the dude's shot a few inches above the square. He's just missing that core strength and mass. Once it gets there, his floor is right there with Ayton and Bagley.

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[ATL Boy]

Doncic's game looks like it'll age like a fine wine. I know, he's just 18 and we're over a decade away from even nearing that conversation, but his BBIQ is off the charts for someone his age.


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[thr3ep01nte4]

I haven’t seen many 18 years old prospects to show enough to believe they can average 25 points a season. There’s for sure no one this year, who is shown something similar. But this was not my point. My point is, he’s much better prospect than Turkoglu. And maybe the only one this year, who can produce good numbers from first minute.

He's definitely a great prospect. I think he's ready to play in the NBA right now. What I can't see is him becoming a 25 ppg scorer, which means he's a top 10 scorer in the league. Even Kyrie is not averaging 25 points and we all knew what he showed at Duke.

[kg01]

Welp, Duke played GT today so you know what that means .... kg01 scoutin' report on Duke prospex.

Bagley sat out. Carter balled out. Final synopsis on Wendell .... Taj Gibson 2.0 *yawn*



Seriously though, he looks like a low ceiling, early contributor. Ideal at HOU's pick, not much earlier IMHO.

[Bob8]

I haven’t seen many 18 years old prospects to show enough to believe they can average 25 points a season. There’s for sure no one this year, who is shown something similar. But this was not my point. My point is, he’s much better prospect than Turkoglu. And maybe the only one this year, who can produce good numbers from first minute.

He's definitely a great prospect. I think he's ready to play in the NBA right now. What I can't see is him becoming a 25 ppg scorer, which means he's a top 10 scorer in the league. Even Kyrie is not averaging 25 points and we all knew what he showed at Duke.

25 points was meant as his ceiling. I agree it’s not very likely he will get there. Many things will depend on how good shooter will he become. If he becomes near elite shooter, everything will be much easier for him. Near elite 6’8.5” 240 shooter with great vision, passing and BBIQ is a monster, even if he’s not the quickest man on court.

Drafting Doncic you more or less know what you will get and he can produce from first minute. His passion for the game is incredible and he’s full entertainment. Fans will love him immediately. If he develops in near elite shooter, you have a future (super)star. Maybe some other in theory has higher ceiling, but chances to get there are much lower. And there’s one important thing, if you want to build the title contender. Doncic is pure winner. He’s winning everything from his childhood to now and in Europe only winning counts. Nobody is developing prospects or looking to individual stats. In Real and other big clubs only titles count. And that’s why is so incredible, what Doncic is doing there. There’s nobody under 24 years with important role in his club in Euroleague. You’re playing only if you’re better than other professionals. That’s why Bender couldn’t even play and was playing his last season in Europe in B team, Hezonja avg. 7 points, Rubio 5 points. Porzingis didn’t even play in Euroleague club, and avg. 11 points in spanish league, Ntilikina playing for club in France in 4th tier competitions and averaging 5 points and 1.5 assists.

For the context, here are Doncic’s stats,

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=005929&seasoncode=E2017

He’s second scorer of Euroleague, first in Pir(index), second in fouls drawn, first in Fts made, 5th in 3-pointers made, 6th in steals, 8th in assists and 14th in rebounds. Doing all that in 26 minutes, only 19th in minutes played in Euroleague. Shved, who is best scorer is playing 32 minutes, first in minutes played in Euroleague.

[atlantabbq99]

I agree and i'm also concern about Luka being slow, but on the other hand, Klay, Curry, Harden, Nash, Stockton, Bird, Peja are also not super athletes with Iverson quickness.

Speed helps, but elite ball handling can make a player more elusive then speed. Curry and Nash demonstrates that very well.

I think Luka has a shot at being a rich man's Hedo Turkoglu when Turk was playing point forward for the Magic.

Turkoglu avg. 13 points and 2.7 assists in Europe. Playing much more and being 21 years old. Doncic’s avg. is 18 points, 4.5 assists. Doncic is for sure much better passer. I would say Turkoglu can be his floor in Nba, but not ceiling.

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