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Post#401 » by DY_nasty » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:00 pm

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JDR720 wrote:Kemba wanted him? That's just more proof the team should never listen to his player signing ideas.

Kemba recommended him. The common denominator in Big Al and MCW being recruited by Kemba is that they all share the same agent. Big Al wasn’t going to be able to demand that type of money from no other team but us at that time. Coincidentally Kemba’s agent makes bank off that. MCW likely out of the league and having to sign in China or something. Coincidentally the same thing.

don't forget jeff adrien too :lol:

kemba might have more pull than people think
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Re: Hornets sign MCW 

Post#402 » by catch20two » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:21 pm

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JDR720 wrote:Kemba wanted him? That's just more proof the team should never listen to his player signing ideas.

Kemba recommended him. The common denominator in Big Al and MCW being recruited by Kemba is that they all share the same agent. Big Al wasn’t going to be able to demand that type of money from no other team but us at that time. Coincidentally Kemba’s agent makes bank off that. MCW likely out of the league and having to sign in China or something. Coincidentally the same thing.

don't forget jeff adrien too :lol:

kemba might have more pull than people think

When you’re the only player on the team that can consistently score 20 points it be like that lol.
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Re: Hornets sign MCW 

Post#403 » by HornetJail » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:38 pm

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JDR720 wrote:Kemba wanted him? That's just more proof the team should never listen to his player signing ideas.

Kemba recommended him. The common denominator in Big Al and MCW being recruited by Kemba is that they all share the same agent. Big Al wasn’t going to be able to demand that type of money from no other team but us at that time. Coincidentally Kemba’s agent makes bank off that. MCW likely out of the league and having to sign in China or something. Coincidentally the same thing.

don't forget jeff adrien too :lol:

kemba might have more pull than people think


tbf Adrien was actually alright. He was a 5th big, and was given a 5th big role. I wouldn't have a major issue with MCW taking up a roster spot if he was 3rd or 4th in our PG rotation.
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Re: Hornets sign MCW 

Post#404 » by Joest2003 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:43 pm

Should have just kept Shabazz instead of trading him for PJ. traditional point guard with very high IQ and passing skills and also chemistry with Walker And Lamb. This season would look so much different if we had an actual real NBA player to run the offense when Kemba was resting.
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Post#405 » by HornetJail » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:51 pm

Joest2003 wrote:Should have just kept Shabazz instead of trading him for PJ. traditional point guard with very high IQ and passing skills and also chemistry with Walker And Lamb. This season would look so much different if we had an actual real NBA player to run the offense when Kemba was resting.

we make the playoffs last year with a competent player running backup PG. I feel confident saying that. We'd certainly be a lot closer this season as well. This front office simply doesn't appear to understand the importance of having 48 minutes of quality play at the PG position.
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Post#406 » by DY_nasty » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:57 pm

shabazz? lol

you don't pick up rookie pgs in the first round with the hopes that they can be great career backups one day. i remember people in their feelings over giving away semaj christon too.

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Re: Hornets sign MCW 

Post#407 » by HornetJail » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:04 pm

DY_nasty wrote:shabazz? lol

you don't pick up rookie pgs in the first round with the hopes that they can be great career backups one day. i remember people in their feelings over giving away semaj christon too.

i should try and find the james young hype threads one day. good times.

Shabazz was picked 24th overall. You don't expect a starter there- you expect a serviceable role player there, and hope they can become a starter or 6th-7th man type.
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Re: Hornets sign MCW 

Post#408 » by Joest2003 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:15 pm

DY_nasty wrote:shabazz? lol

you don't pick up rookie pgs in the first round with the hopes that they can be great career backups one day. i remember people in their feelings over giving away semaj christon too.

i should try and find the james young hype threads one day. good times.


So how did the PJ Hairston trade work for us? Dudes not even in the league anymore. At 24 a serviceable backup PG is not a bad find. We got guys in the top 10 who don't even belong on the court most of the time.
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Post#409 » by DY_nasty » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:17 pm

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DY_nasty wrote:shabazz? lol

you don't pick up rookie pgs in the first round with the hopes that they can be great career backups one day. i remember people in their feelings over giving away semaj christon too.

i should try and find the james young hype threads one day. good times.

Shabazz was picked 24th overall. You don't expect a starter there- you expect a serviceable role player there, and hope they can become a starter or 6th-7th man type.

back up pgs come from free agency or circumstance. just because this team makes that particular position such a headache doesn't mean that we should drop conventional approaches to the draft (like dear god how much this team needed - and still needs - a starter at sg)

a team has to go out of its way to sign MCW while he's on his way to china. trey burke isn't even good, but he's still an nba player compared to what we've got at the pg position. doesn't take a 1st round draft pick to remedy something that common sense in free agency would. this team's never been so good that we can look at a guy who projects to be a backup and hop all over him in the draft.
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Post#410 » by Braggins » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:26 pm

It is rather astounding how we almost always seem to have one of the worst backup PG situations in the league. Seems like most other teams can at least find a somewhat passable stop gap solution with a minimum contract when things get desperate (think Burke).

It has to at least partially a system/coaching issue. Most of the guys we get are legitimately bad, but they always look way worse than normal as soon as they come here.
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Post#411 » by DY_nasty » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:27 pm

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DY_nasty wrote:shabazz? lol

you don't pick up rookie pgs in the first round with the hopes that they can be great career backups one day. i remember people in their feelings over giving away semaj christon too.

i should try and find the james young hype threads one day. good times.


So how did the PJ Hairston trade work for us? Dudes not even in the league anymore. At 24 a serviceable backup PG is not a bad find. We got guys in the top 10 who don't even belong on the court most of the time.

yeah so we're playing revisionist history now :roll: okay

the point of the 2014 draft for this team was SG / BPA. and lets not pretend that shabazz was even serviceable before this year too lol. seriously man.

we really had 3 years to wait on a backup at best? the easy answer is just to pay a decent veteran back up pg. not sure why that's such a crazy idea
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Post#412 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:40 pm

It normally takes PGs 3 years or so to develop in the NBA. So yeah, drafting one a few years ago would have been good advanced planning. One of those 3 years would have been covered by Lin, so it's really only last year that would have been an issue.
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Re: Hornets sign MCW 

Post#413 » by Joest2003 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:51 pm

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Joest2003 wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:shabazz? lol

you don't pick up rookie pgs in the first round with the hopes that they can be great career backups one day. i remember people in their feelings over giving away semaj christon too.

i should try and find the james young hype threads one day. good times.


So how did the PJ Hairston trade work for us? Dudes not even in the league anymore. At 24 a serviceable backup PG is not a bad find. We got guys in the top 10 who don't even belong on the court most of the time.

yeah so we're playing revisionist history now :roll: okay

the point of the 2014 draft for this team was SG / BPA. and lets not pretend that shabazz was even serviceable before this year too lol. seriously man.

we really had 3 years to wait on a backup at best? the easy answer is just to pay a decent veteran back up pg. not sure why that's such a crazy idea


3 years? Shabazz was better than current MCW the day he was drafted. Not saying you pick someone at 24 and assume they will be a backup obviously. But a backup PG is better than someone who is no longer in the league at this point.
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Post#414 » by DY_nasty » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:28 pm

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DY_nasty wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
So how did the PJ Hairston trade work for us? Dudes not even in the league anymore. At 24 a serviceable backup PG is not a bad find. We got guys in the top 10 who don't even belong on the court most of the time.

yeah so we're playing revisionist history now :roll: okay

the point of the 2014 draft for this team was SG / BPA. and lets not pretend that shabazz was even serviceable before this year too lol. seriously man.

we really had 3 years to wait on a backup at best? the easy answer is just to pay a decent veteran back up pg. not sure why that's such a crazy idea


3 years? Shabazz was better than current MCW the day he was drafted. Not saying you pick someone at 24 and assume they will be a backup obviously. But a backup PG is better than someone who is no longer in the league at this point.

bro

literally everyone is better than mcw.
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Post#415 » by yosemiteben » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:06 pm

Not to dump on the Napier love fest, but he's already on his third team (4th if you count us trading him), with his two prior teams dumping him for cash.

I do think it's some revisionist history to act like trading him was a glaring mistake.
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Post#416 » by Joest2003 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:55 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Not to dump on the Napier love fest, but he's already on his third team (4th if you count us trading him), with his two prior teams dumping him for cash.

I do think it's some revisionist history to act like trading him was a glaring mistake.


Never said it was glaring mistake and we weren't even in the market for a point guard at the time. Just saying I wish we kept him since PJ turned out to be a dumpster fire.
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Post#417 » by Joest2003 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:32 pm

DY_nasty wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:yeah so we're playing revisionist history now :roll: okay

the point of the 2014 draft for this team was SG / BPA. and lets not pretend that shabazz was even serviceable before this year too lol. seriously man.

we really had 3 years to wait on a backup at best? the easy answer is just to pay a decent veteran back up pg. not sure why that's such a crazy idea


3 years? Shabazz was better than current MCW the day he was drafted. Not saying you pick someone at 24 and assume they will be a backup obviously. But a backup PG is better than someone who is no longer in the league at this point.

bro

literally everyone is better than mcw.


Can't argue that one lol
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Re: Hornets sign MCW 

Post#418 » by catch20two » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:01 pm


catch20two wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I thought you'd be all about this because this means Lamb is going to have a more significant offensive role.

Gonna be difficult for Lamb to play with this offensive clutz of a hyphenated name throwing up airballed layups and defenses daring him to shoot 3s knowing it'll likely clank off the side of the backboard.

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Post#419 » by Bassman » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:47 am

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AYYYE!!!


I absolutely cannot believe he has that many misses and airballs, just with The Hornets. Pathetic.

This thread should just be shut down and locked. There is nothing left to discuss other than the continuous acknowledgement of how limited he is as a basketball player. That video compilation is stark. Looks like he should play at the local Y.
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Post#420 » by catch20two » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:00 am

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catch20two wrote:AYYYE!!!


I absolutely cannot believe he has that many misses and airballs, just with The Hornets. Pathetic.

This thread should just be shut down and locked. There is nothing left to discuss other than the continuous acknowledgement of how limited he is as a basketball player. That video compilation is stark. Looks like he should play at the local Y.

He’s been missing layups like this for years but not at this bad of a rate. His jumper efficiency is on par with all oh his previous seasons.

Whenever I used to watch him whether at the Sixers, Bucks, or Bulls he usually missed layups badly mostly because he’d force the issue and drive into traffic because he already had his mind made up that he’s shooting regardless of the obstacles.
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