Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas

[LKIRNets]

Why would a player that got bought out mid season require a large contract? Those guys usually get the minimum or something really small on a 1 year deal.

and what happens after that half season deal at the end of the year? they will want a long term contract.

why exactly would we sign an older player to a rental deal for a team baiscally mathematically eliminated from playoff contention?

0 reason to consider signing any of those guys

Why trade for Cunningham? Same exact scenario. That deal cost us money. For a rental with a guy that had a no trade clause and he specifically waived it to play with a team out of playoff contention.

Offseason. We have issues in the line up and trades will be made. Lin picked up $13M we might have to deal a potential UFA or RFA this summer at the draft.

[kamaze]

Why would we bring on them anyway? most of the minutes post ASB are going to younger players.

We just traded for Dante Cunningham. A vet backup forward with absolutely no upside. The team easily could've kept Vaughn or just rolled with Webb if we were strictly interested in going young.

Clearly the team has some interest in competing and putting actual NBA players on the floor.

Idk if we'll be interested in any buy out guys but cost isn't a factor. Those guys are always on cheap one year deals. And we're not running with a full on youth movement. Okafor is barely cracking 15 minutes a game even with Zeller gone.

Marks is always doing his HW.

“Dante Cunningham is someone I’m familiar with - our whole group is familiar with - and with Rondae [Hollis-Jefferson] being out right now and obviously losing Tyler as well, Dante gives us a positional need, fills a little bit of that void there, but he also brings us toughness, grit, he’s a veteran. He’s been on multiple teams, he’s been on playoff teams, he’s been in big moments. And I think what he’ll add to our group will be important.”

The team needs another vet on the floor they can learn how to win from some of his habits.

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[Prokorov]

Why would a player that got bought out mid season require a large contract? Those guys usually get the minimum or something really small on a 1 year deal.

and what happens after that half season deal at the end of the year? they will want a long term contract.

why exactly would we sign an older player to a rental deal for a team baiscally mathematically eliminated from playoff contention?

0 reason to consider signing any of those guys

Why trade for Cunningham? Same exact scenario. That deal cost us money. For a rental with a guy that had a no trade clause and he specifically waived it to play with a team out of playoff contention.

We aquired a pick.

cunningham expires.

[MGrand15]

and what happens after that half season deal at the end of the year? they will want a long term contract.

why exactly would we sign an older player to a rental deal for a team baiscally mathematically eliminated from playoff contention?

0 reason to consider signing any of those guys

Why trade for Cunningham? Same exact scenario. That deal cost us money. For a rental with a guy that had a no trade clause and he specifically waived it to play with a team out of playoff contention.

We aquired a pick.

cunningham expires.

We did NOT get a pick in the Cunningham deal.

Vaughn was expiring as well.

[MrDollarBills]

Why trade for Cunningham? Same exact scenario. That deal cost us money. For a rental with a guy that had a no trade clause and he specifically waived it to play with a team out of playoff contention.

We aquired a pick.

cunningham expires.

We did NOT get a pick in the Cunningham deal.

Vaughn was expiring as well.

I think he is talking about the pick 2nd round pick we got from the Bucks.

[MGrand15]

We aquired a pick.

cunningham expires.

We did NOT get a pick in the Cunningham deal.

Vaughn was expiring as well.

I think he is talking about the pick 2nd round pick we got from the Bucks.

Some honest discussion would be nice.

He knows that was a totally separate trade. If it was all about the pick and the expiring contract, we could've called it a day after the initial trade.

[brook]

I really don't believe we have wrote two pages of comments about Mo Speight and other scrubs like him.

[IceManBK1]

Mirotic doing work again with 21pts and 12 rebs against pistions...really wanted the nets to trade for him..oh well, it's to late now.

[LKIRNets]

I really don't believe we have wrote two pages of comments about Mo Speight and other scrubs like him.

If you notice it's only really one person who brought this up and he's not even a Nets fan.

[TheNetsFan]

I think it's becoming painfully obvious that the rebuild may start in earnest next year when we can control our own pick. I can't shake the thought that Marks will be forced to select 2-3 players, sell the rest off at the right price & start a rebuild with high draft picks. Allen may be the least likely to move because he's got 3 more years on his rookie deal. DLo's stock is likely at a career low right now, so he likely won't get dealt. RHJ (if he returns to form) & Dinwiddie are the likeliest, but it would have to be for the right price.

[MrDollarBills]

I think it's becoming painfully obvious that the rebuild may start in earnest next year when we can control our own pick. I can't shake the thought that Marks will be forced to select 2-3 players, sell the rest off at the right price & start a rebuild with high draft picks. Allen may be the least likely to move because he's got 3 more years on his rookie deal. DLo's stock is likely at a career low right now, so he likely won't get dealt. RHJ (if he returns to form) & Dinwiddie are the likeliest, but it would have to be for the right price.

Marks will be fired if he does this. If that is his plan, the Nets literally just wasted two seasons and millions of dollars in development just to have a fire sale and then a rebuild that would probably take 5-7 seasons at best to even remotely form a competitive squad. I know this debate was just brought up the other day but seriously if you think that Marks is going to risk his job to undergo a Hinkie style tank job rebuild he'll be fired just like Sam Hinkie was.

Lets see how the rest of the season goes. These scorched earth ideas always get floated on this forum during times when the team is having a rough go at it. if they finish the season strong i highly doubt this idea will carry much weight.

[LKIRNets]

I think it's becoming painfully obvious that the rebuild may start in earnest next year when we can control our own pick. I can't shake the thought that Marks will be forced to select 2-3 players, sell the rest off at the right price & start a rebuild with high draft picks. Allen may be the least likely to move because he's got 3 more years on his rookie deal. DLo's stock is likely at a career low right now, so he likely won't get dealt. RHJ (if he returns to form) & Dinwiddie are the likeliest, but it would have to be for the right price.

Marks will be fired if he does this. If that is his plan, the Nets literally just wasted two seasons and millions of dollars in development just to have a fire sale and then a rebuild that would probably take 5-7 seasons at best to even remotely form a competitive squad. I know this debate was just brought up the other day but seriously if you think that Marks is going to risk his job to undergo a Hinkie style tank job rebuild he'll be fired just like Sam Hinkie was.

Lets see how the rest of the season goes. These scorched earth ideas always get floated on this forum during times when the team is having a rough go at it. if they finish the season strong i highly doubt this idea will carry much weight.

I think the only player to be moved will be RHJ. Dinwiddie is locked up next season. But our draft pick will be a PF.

[TheNetsFan]

I think it's becoming painfully obvious that the rebuild may start in earnest next year when we can control our own pick. I can't shake the thought that Marks will be forced to select 2-3 players, sell the rest off at the right price & start a rebuild with high draft picks. Allen may be the least likely to move because he's got 3 more years on his rookie deal. DLo's stock is likely at a career low right now, so he likely won't get dealt. RHJ (if he returns to form) & Dinwiddie are the likeliest, but it would have to be for the right price.

Marks will be fired if he does this. If that is his plan, the Nets literally just wasted two seasons and millions of dollars in development just to have a fire sale and then a rebuild that would probably take 5-7 seasons at best to even remotely form a competitive squad. I know this debate was just brought up the other day but seriously if you think that Marks is going to risk his job to undergo a Hinkie style tank job rebuild he'll be fired just like Sam Hinkie was.

Lets see how the rest of the season goes. These scorched earth ideas always get floated on this forum during times when the team is having a rough go at it. if they finish the season strong i highly doubt this idea will carry much weight.

I don't think Marks will be fired, nor do I think it's 2 wasted seasons of development. It depends on what you return. We know marks turned down Cleveland's 1st (currently 25) for Dinwiddie. However if he were to trade him for a pick in the mid to late teens on draft night, is that wasted development or developing/manufacturing assets that you did not have? Even if we blow it up & rebuild, if you land lottery picks to mid firsts for cast-offs, D-League call-ups & late 1st rounders, that is progress & asset development.

Not to mention, even the most stable of franchises churn >50% of their roster. 60% of the Spurs roster is different than their roster 3 years ago. 67% of GSW's is different than 3 years ago. 93% of Boston's is different than 3 years ago. We don't have near the talent of those teams, so why should we be scared to turn over our roster?

[JiggaMan06]

This off season will be interesting and alot will be determined how we finish this season. Do they shut down RHJ for the rest of the season if the injury is more serious than we thought? Does Jah and Sauce show you enough for you to bring them back? Does Kenny find a rotation that best utilizes the overcrowded back court?

[LKIRNets]

This off season will be interesting and alot will be determined how we finish this season. Do they shut down RHJ for the rest of the season if the injury is more serious than we thought? Does Jah and Sauce show you enough for you to bring them back? Does Kenny find a rotation that best utilizes the overcrowded back court?

That's the real question. I mean, RHJ, do you shut him down after the allstar break or play him like a workhorse.

I also think Kenny Atkinson has to embrace James Webb III, RHJ missing means we need length and a motor at the PF. Acy I love him as a bench guy, not the guy that takes all the bigs minutes and gets caught sagging. I think they're committed to Jah and will have him in a program, Sauce is another story. Senglin in the G-League is looking real good.

[JiggaMan06]

This off season will be interesting and alot will be determined how we finish this season. Do they shut down RHJ for the rest of the season if the injury is more serious than we thought? Does Jah and Sauce show you enough for you to bring them back? Does Kenny find a rotation that best utilizes the overcrowded back court?

That's the real question. I mean, RHJ, do you shut him down after the allstar break or play him like a workhorse.

I also think Kenny Atkinson has to embrace James Webb III, RHJ missing means we need length and a motor at the PF. Acy I love him as a bench guy, not the guy that takes all the bigs minutes and gets caught sagging. I think they're committed to Jah and will have him in a program, Sauce is another story. Senglin in the G-League is looking real good.

Judging on how this season is looking they'll shut him down rather than risk further injury. I thought it was just me but I like Webb to be the motor guy like Booker was. He's not playing his game and taking shots he would normally cause he fears Kenny will pull him (A lot of players have that fear and thats why they overthink sometimes). Majority of the time when I see Acy miss or hesitate to shoot a 3 I think if Webb was there he'd make it. Deandre Jordan and AD were basically daring Acy to shoot those shots. Jah (and DLo) need to go to a Tim Duncan/Bruce Bowen defense camp the whole summer lol. Honestly, I think the Nets part ways with Sauce and Whitehead due to Senglin and Milton since this organization is so big on player development.

[LKIRNets]

This off season will be interesting and alot will be determined how we finish this season. Do they shut down RHJ for the rest of the season if the injury is more serious than we thought? Does Jah and Sauce show you enough for you to bring them back? Does Kenny find a rotation that best utilizes the overcrowded back court?

That's the real question. I mean, RHJ, do you shut him down after the allstar break or play him like a workhorse.

I also think Kenny Atkinson has to embrace James Webb III, RHJ missing means we need length and a motor at the PF. Acy I love him as a bench guy, not the guy that takes all the bigs minutes and gets caught sagging. I think they're committed to Jah and will have him in a program, Sauce is another story. Senglin in the G-League is looking real good.

Judging on how this season is looking they'll shut him down rather than risk further injury. I thought it was just me but I like Webb to be the motor guy like Booker was. He's not playing his game and taking shots he would normally cause he fears Kenny will pull him (A lot of players have that fear and thats why they overthink sometimes). Majority of the time when I see Acy miss or hesitate to shoot a 3 I think if Webb was there he'd make it. Deandre Jordan and AD were basically daring Acy to shoot those shots. Jah (and DLo) need to go to a Tim Duncan/Bruce Bowen defense camp the whole summer lol. Honestly, I think the Nets part ways with Sauce and Whitehead due to Senglin and Milton since this organization is so big on player development.

I love everything about Webb, I think he should be playing Acy's minutes (RHJ) and can hit the 3 but has to learn the plays. And Kenny has to learn to trust him.

I think Jah and DLo need an offseason cardio program. It might take a year and a 1 1/2 to see the change, but to get them ready for defending screens it needs to happen. Good thing they are wit us and will likely be cheap.

Senglin should be up right now. I like Sauce but he's RFA. He should play elsewhere. Senglin needs to legit be looked at. He dribble penetrates, defends his guard position and can hit the 3's too. He won't get big mins. but 4 mpg. to make sure he's NBA ready isn't bad for this season.

[Keith Van Horn]

Got to say, this season really turn a turn after the Booker trade. Not that it was all predicated on the trade since a ton of injuries started happening, but that was really a turning point I feel.

I'm starting to lose faith in the Okafor project, too. I'd still bring him back for sure... but I'm not holding out hope for him to be anything more than a stand-in for Allen for the rest of his career. Allen is just way more mobile and has the higher BBIQ.

[JiggaMan06]

Got to say, this season really turn a turn after the Booker trade. Not that it was all predicated on the trade since a ton of injuries started happening, but that was really a turning point I feel.

I'm starting to lose faith in the Okafor project, too. I'd still bring him back for sure... but I'm not holding out hope for him to be anything more than a stand-in for Allen for the rest of his career. Allen is just way more mobile and has the higher BBIQ.

I was gonna hold off one more year until I put him I that Duke failed big man lol. His offense isn't bad but if he embraced a more defensive role that will def get the pressure off of him and encourage others. Maybe It's just me but as a player if you saw your biggest liability playing defense that'll fuel me to play defense better.

[Paradise]

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