Clippers Revoke Front Office Role From Doc Rivers

[esqtvd]

With nothing to complain about re his coaching or his son, I see the Rivers Derangement Syndrome folks are at it again, LOL

Doc was the one who brought Ingles over from Australia in the first place and lost him in a roster space crunch, always intending to bring him back. The Spurs drafted and traded away Drazen Goric for Malik Hairston [who's he?] and a 2nd. These things happen.

Ingles has become a nice player but it's his 4th year, he's 30 years old, and he never averaged even 10 ppg before this year. I'm glad Doc's stepped down [or was pushed] but this is not a franchise wrecker. He was a caretaker doing the very difficult transition from the Sterling regime and he did OK.

[JGOJustin]

With nothing to complain about re his coaching or his son, I see the Rivers Derangement Syndrome folks are at it again, LOL

Doc was the one who brought Ingles over from Australia in the first place and lost him in a roster space crunch, always intending to bring him back. The Spurs drafted and traded away Drazen Goric for Malik Hairston [who's he?] and a 2nd. These things happen.

Ingles has become a nice player but it's his 4th year, he's 30 years old, and he never averaged even 10 ppg before this year. I'm glad Doc's stepped down [or was pushed] but this is not a franchise wrecker. He was a caretaker doing the very difficult transition from the Sterling regime and he did OK.

Louder lol

[QRich3]

With nothing to complain about re his coaching or his son, I see the Rivers Derangement Syndrome folks are at it again, LOL

Doc was the one who brought Ingles over from Australia in the first place and lost him in a roster space crunch, always intending to bring him back. The Spurs drafted and traded away Drazen Goric for Malik Hairston [who's he?] and a 2nd. These things happen.

Ingles has become a nice player but it's his 4th year, he's 30 years old, and he never averaged even 10 ppg before this year. I'm glad Doc's stepped down [or was pushed] but this is not a franchise wrecker. He was a caretaker doing the very difficult transition from the Sterling regime and he did OK.

lol don't think you should waste your energy in that, some dudes just have weird obsessions with a random person and devote their time to making up bizarre narratives that convince them further into the obsession. Makes me understand celebrities pov a little bit tbh, it's gotta be scary.

PS- Drazen Goric?

[Ranma]

Apparently, the few remaining Doc apologists still have their nose so far up his rear from having their lips still locked onto his backside that they still can't tell what passes the smell test, which explains why they continue to spew crappy takes in somehow equating sabotage and self-destructive tendencies as "caretaking".

This is asinine on all kinds of levels. Ingles chose to sign with the Clips because of our desperate need for a capable wing and yet Doc chose Jared Cunningham over him. Not only did Cunningham didn't play much before we ended up cutting him, he's been out of the league for the past few seasons now while Ingles has thrived in Utah. This doesn't even factor in his inept roster construction that put him in the position to make the stupid choice to begin with.

Doc's intention of bringing him back showed exactly how out of touch he was in thinking no one else would value Ingles' clear skills, which shows the depth of his extended incompetence. Like I said, even when he had talent right in front of his nose, he still couldn't identify and evaluate it properly just like the Doc apologists who can't see anything in front of them except Doc's backside apparently.

Give Doc's rear a kiss for me while you're there.

[MartinToVaught]

The excuses for the Ingles thing are really getting old. If Doc really wanted to keep Ingles so badly, he'd have chosen him over Cunningham. No "salary cap magic" necessary.

And spare me the excuse that Jordan Farmar was hurt. Jordan Farmar should never be dictating any team's roster moves. Our most glaring need at the time was an NBA-caliber wing, and Doc let one slip away.

[Quake Griffin]

Damn.

[Wammy Giveaway]

This is asinine on all kinds of levels. Ingles chose to sign with the Clips because of our desperate need for a capable wing and yet Doc chose Jared Cunningham over him. Not only did Cunningham didn't play much before we ended up cutting him, he's been out of the league for the past few seasons now while Ingles has thrived in Utah. This doesn't even factor in his inept roster construction that put him in the position to make the stupid choice to begin with.

And then, Ingles helped the Jazz to defeat the Clippers in the first round, which led to the forced trade of Chris Paul and subsequent demotion of Doc Rivers, followed by the hardest decision they've ever done in their franchise life. But the trade of Blake Griffin was actually a Jerry West move.

From NBA.com: http://www.nba.com/article/2018/02/13/lawrence-frank-jerry-west-tasked-giving-los-angeles-clippers-new-identity-and/

It could be argued that Rivers is more at peace, now that he no longer has the personnel title and the hassles that go with that. He didn’t raise a stink, at least not publicly, when they cut his titles in half (perhaps because they didn’t reduce his pay) and seems content to see what the next chapter brings. It helps that he and Frank have history; Rivers hired Frank as his assistant in Boston and also brought him to the Clippers to serve the same role before the promotion.

“Doc and I have such a special relationship because it’s based on honesty,” said Frank. “We deal with each other openly and honestly. We serve each other. It’s a true partnership. We tell and take the hard truths and we both share the same vision in trying to do what’s in the best interests of the organization. We’re both here to serve each other, the players and the organization. He put me in the front office role. When it was restructured we haven’t skipped a beat. For us, we keep moving forward.”

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They did agree two weeks ago that it was time for Griffin to move on, with the biggest nudge coming from West. It wasn’t an easy about-face, of course; Griffin was a five-time All-Star and rescued the franchise from the dumpster when he was drafted in 2011. He sold T-shirts and jerseys, put the club on prime-time TV and, from his jump-over-a-car dunk and catchy commercials, made the Clippers … cool.

But trading Griffin to the star-desperate Pistons was groundbreaking in that it forced the club to try a different approach.

[esqtvd]

Apparently, the few remaining Doc apologists still have their nose so far up his rear from having their lips still locked onto his backside that they still can't tell what passes the smell test

Migod, man, get a grip.

[Ranma]

Ingles chose to sign with the Clips because of our desperate need for a capable wing and yet Doc chose Jared Cunningham over him. Not only did Cunningham didn't play much before we ended up cutting him, he's been out of the league for the past few seasons now while Ingles has thrived in Utah. This doesn't even factor in his inept roster construction that put him in the position to make the stupid choice to begin with.

Doc's intention of bringing him back showed exactly how out of touch he was in thinking no one else would value Ingles' clear skills, which shows the depth of his extended incompetence. Like I said, even when he had talent right in front of his nose, he still couldn't identify and evaluate it properly just like the Doc apologists who can't see anything in front of them except Doc's backside apparently.

The excuses for the Ingles thing are really getting old. If Doc really wanted to keep Ingles so badly, he'd have chosen him over Cunningham. No "salary cap magic" necessary.

And spare me the excuse that Jordan Farmar was hurt. Jordan Farmar should never be dictating any team's roster moves. Our most glaring need at the time was an NBA-caliber wing, and Doc let one slip away.

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Edit: Added both Positive Residual and Draft Express tweets to the string.

[MartinToVaught]

Fire. Doc. Rivers.