Jaren Jackson Jr.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Jaren Jackson is sickening. if you didn't see him tonight, at least check out the highlights. crazy - sometimes they simply don't go to him or he gets in foul trouble and doesn't do anything - tonight they found him. yikes. such an incredible talent. tonight i saw a guy worthy of #1 overall. not saying i'd take him there, but damn.

Yeah, a few hours ago I was babbling about how it'd be hard to not go with Bamba #1, and now I'm sayin I gotta lean toward JJJ at 1. What a top-heavy draft it's gonna be. Gotta get a top 7 pick.

Yep. 7 player draft. Can almost make a case for all of them to be #1.

[UcanUwill]

Better than Bagley from what I have seen

[thamadkant]

this will sound crazy... but I see Anthony Davis with lesser dribbling skills.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Have to wait for some consistancy before getting too hyped.

Marquese Chriss had some similar statlines.

[Roddy B for 3]

I think he'll probably turn out better than Noah Vonleh and not as good as Myles Turner. He's got great tools, but he's so young and raw right now, it's hard to say there isn't some risk with him. At the very least, he looks like he'll be a plus defender. I'd really love to see him be able to put the ball down and make a few plays off the dribble.

And he will be a capable catch-and-shoot option. This combined with his plus defense (at least) and I don't see bust potential with him. He's one of the safest picks, imo. He probably just lacks the upside some of his peers have, even though I can still imagine him becoming an All-Star if he develops well (say Paul Millsap level (not that Millsap is a great comparison style-wise, though)).

I see him as Serge Ibaka.

[The-Power]

Have to wait for some consistancy before getting too hyped.

Marquese Chriss had some similar statlines.

What is that supposed to mean? They are completely different players. This is like saying we cannot get excited about player xy because somebody else before him produced something similar in certain games. I doubt that many, if any, people posting here do that because of one game. Instead they look at his body of work and the flashes he's shown.

Compared to Chriss, Jackson is a better shooter, better interior defender, better rebounder and even a better passer. Not to mention that Jackson has legitimate length. They are in a completely different tier of prospect when we compare what each has done while being on the floor. The biggest knock on Jackson is that he can't play extended minutes because of frequent foul trouble – and from one of the youngest freshmen who plays extremely hard on defense game that is to be expected.

I see him as Serge Ibaka.

Serge Ibaka with more on-ball skills and better shooting and I could see it. If he ends up being ‘only‘ as good as Ibaka – which would still be a solid player however - I would be pretty disappointed with his development.

[Ruzious]

At 18 years old, he's bigger than Ibaka is. Ibaka's about 6'10 230, while Jackson's listed at 6'11 240 and could be a 7 footer when he enters the NBA. And Ibaka was a helluva player early in his NBA career. I'm not sure why he fell off after his 5th season.

As for Chris, his college productivity and efficiency stats were nowhere near Jackson's. JJJ's PER is 29.0 vs Chriss' 22.1, TS% is 69 vs 59, and eFG is 63 vs 56.

[yoyoboy]

This guy isn't falling out of the top 4. Personally I would take him ahead of anybody except Doncic, but I feel like the draft is going to go something like:

1. Ayton
2. Doncic
3. Young
4. Jackson Jr
5. Porter
6. Bagley
7. Bamba

And then I wouldn't be surprised if any one of Sexton, Carter, Knox, or Bridges is next.

But yeah, this really seems to be a 7 player top heavy draft (even though personally I'm higher on Carter than Bagley). I want JJJ on the Cavs, but I think we might end up with Bridges or Carter with how many teams are going to be desperately trying to lose in the last couple weeks.

[Cheesin]

I think prime Ibaka is the best comp

elite rim protecter, can stretch the floor and hit the 3..like ibaka tho he's a very poor rebounder

[yoyoboy]

Chris Bosh 2.0.

Yeah, Bosh definitely had more refined post skills at the same age, but JJJ has about 20 pounds on college Bosh already, and Jackson's rim protection and defensive instincts are clearly better, as well. But aside from those things, they're very similar. Both left handed PF/Cs with measurements of 6'11 height, 7'4 wingspan, and 9'1 standing reach. They're both able to cover a lot of ground defensively making them great for guarding the PnR. They're excellent shooters, they're similarly athletic in that they're not crazy explosive but they fully utilize their length (Bosh was probably little bit more of a leaper though), and they're generally just very active. I like JJJ's upside as a ball handler and driver more than Bosh's.

I love JJJ because I think he has a crazy high ceiling (Bosh level scoring ability, DPOY level impact) and yet he also has a really high floor, as well. I can't see any way he busts. His defensive instincts, length, and mobility should make him a pretty good defender almost from day one assuming he gets over the foul trouble hump, and offensively he's at the very least passable as a floor spacer, a threat in the pick 'n pop, and a lob finisher. Plus he has decent vision (2.4 assists per 40), and I think it's a bad sign for basketball IQ when you have a big who constantly puts up 0s in the assists category.

[No-Man]

He is more of Miami's Bosh than prime Bosh or Bosh with a bigger load, still that Bosh was super valuable, so no complains there

[Nazrmohamed]

this will sound crazy... but I see Anthony Davis with lesser dribbling skills.

That makes a huge difference though but I know exactly what you mean. In fact I think his touch could be even better but handle changes the game. I still think Ayton is the best prospect in this draft but I wouldn't think it even crazy if another teamm felt Jackson was the second best player in this draft

[SeattleJazzFan]

couple problems with the ibaka comparisons. first, as somebody mentioned, Jackson is bigger. Ibaka is 6'10, where Jackson will measure at 7' and i would guess his wingspan will be 7'5" or so.

second, and this is the big one -- ibaka didn't really become a 3pt threat until his shot blocking tapered off considerably. He only had one season of 2+ blocked shots and 1+ 3pt attempts. once he started shooting 3s, his blocked shots dipped below two and continued to dip every season where he now sits at 1.3 and he's hardly noticeable as a rim protector. Ibaka didn't start really start shooting threes until he was 25.

[SeattleJazzFan]

couple problems with the ibaka comparisons. first, as somebody mentioned, Jackson is bigger. Ibaka is 6'10, where Jackson will measure at 7' and i would guess his wingspan will be 7'5" or so.

second, and this is the big one -- ibaka didn't really become a 3pt threat until his shot blocking tapered off considerably. He only had one season of 2+ blocked shots and 1+ 3pt attempts. once he started shooting 3s, his blocked shots dipped below two and continued to dip every season where he now sits at 1.3 and he's hardly noticeable as a rim protector

[The-Power]

his shot blocking tapered off considerably. He only had one season of 2+ blocked shots and 1+ 3pt attempts. once he started shooting 3s, his blocked shots dipped below two and continued to dip every season where he now sits at 1.3.

To be fair, lower shot blocking numbers are a trend for the entire league and it hits shot-blocking big men particularly hard, I feel.

Davis' Blocks per 100 went down from 4.3 at its peak to 2.8 in 2018. Whiteside's from 6.5 to 3.2. DAJ's from 4.0 to 1.5. Gobert's from 5.0 to 3.9. Porzingis leads the league in BPG at 2.4 this year and only three players average more than 2 BPG. The game being more open hurts classic rim protectors in terms of raw numbers. But yes, Ibaka is an extreme example that cannot be explained solely by the developments.

Generally I agree with you, though. Jackson is bigger, has the chance to be a clearly better shooter than Ibaka and should have a longer stretch of inside dominance.

[JMac1]

Hate me if you will....but outside of Ayton and Trae, I would love JJJ on the Suns....sorry Donicic.

[han320]

Better than Bagley from what I have seen

At the very least, he'll have more of a definitive role on an NBA team than Bagley. As a big man in today's NBA, if you can not anchor a team's defense then you better be absolutely amazing on offense (ex. Blake Griffin, DeMarcus Cousins, KAT). And right now Bagley does not have the offensive arsenal that those guys have. BUT I do think it is more likely for Bagley to develop offensively than for him to become a defensive anchor.

[Sebastian]

As long as he doesn't have a rough final month+, I think he's quickly becoming a lock for top 5, and might even sneak into the top 2. The only guy that isn't getting pushed out is Ayton. Some team might prefer someone else at 1, but Ayton isn't slipping past 2 IMO. The rest of the top 7 will shuffle around depending on who's drafting where and how these guys fare down the stretch.

[Jkam31]

Please don’t respond to Chris’s comparison that’s troll talk


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