Random Be Safe Papis Thoughts; XVIIII

[MettaWorldPanda]

Saw the shooting on the news, some of you heat posters have to be highschoolers. Stay safe papis.

Shooting happened 10 minutes from my house I know many parents who have kids that go to Douglas. My daughters's travel soccer coach also coaches the girls high school JV team there. So sad

[MettaWorldPanda]

It's insane how we have metal detectors at airports and court houses but yet anyone can go freely into any school.

[delanka]

Saw the shooting on the news, some of you heat posters have to be highschoolers. Stay safe papis.

Shooting happened 10 minutes from my house I know many parents who have kids that go to Douglas. My daughters's travel soccer coach also coaches the girls high school JV team there. So sad

Hope all your friends are safe!

[MettaWorldPanda]

Saw the shooting on the news, some of you heat posters have to be highschoolers. Stay safe papis.

Shooting happened 10 minutes from my house I know many parents who have kids that go to Douglas. My daughters's travel soccer coach also coaches the girls high school JV team there. So sad

Hope all your friends are safe!

So far everyone I know is safe but still waiting on more word as things are still chaotic.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I phucking can't believe this happened so close to home. Kid who did it was mentally disturbed and got kicked out of school for threatening other kids. Kids that knew him say he was obsessed with gun play.

[Bishop45]

It's insane how we have metal detectors at airports and court houses but yet anyone can go freely into any school.

It's really hard to enforce that in all school environments(there are schools with metal detectors, but particularly in areas where they can be "excused"), would be like searching people to get into church. Communal trust goes a long way, although greater measures definitely have to be taken to protect public safety

[MettaWorldPanda]

It's insane how we have metal detectors at airports and court houses but yet anyone can go freely into any school.

It's really hard to enforce that in all school environments(there are schools with metal detectors, but particularly in areas where they can be "excused"), would be like searching people to get into church. Communal trust goes a long way, although greater measures definitely have to be taken to protect public safety

Douglas happens to be one of the best high schools in the area in a very affluent neighborhood. But i'm guessing so was columbine. Need better protection for these kids going to school for every walk of life. Most schools down here seem so easy to breach.

[Chalm Down]

I phucking can't believe this happened so close to home. Kid who did it was mentally disturbed and got kicked out of school for threatening other kids. Kids that knew him say he was obsessed with gun play.

So sorry this happened, Panda. Can't imagine what your community is going through right now.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I phucking can't believe this happened so close to home. Kid who did it was mentally disturbed and got kicked out of school for threatening other kids. Kids that knew him say he was obsessed with gun play.

So sorry this happened, Panda. Can't imagine what your community is going through right now.

Still in shock Chalms. Was just hosting my sister and brother in law cause they closed the road to their house. They live right around the corner from the school. Been a whirlwind day to say the least.

[Chalm Down]

I phucking can't believe this happened so close to home. Kid who did it was mentally disturbed and got kicked out of school for threatening other kids. Kids that knew him say he was obsessed with gun play.

So sorry this happened, Panda. Can't imagine what your community is going through right now.

Still in shock Chalms. Was just hosting my sister and brother in law cause they closed the road to their house. They live right around the corner from the school. Been a whirlwind day to say the least.

Awful stuff...glad to hear your family is with you and safe at least

[MettaWorldPanda]

So sorry this happened, Panda. Can't imagine what your community is going through right now.

Still in shock Chalms. Was just hosting my sister and brother in law cause they closed the road to their house. They live right around the corner from the school. Been a whirlwind day to say the least.

Awful stuff...glad to hear your family is with you and safe at least

Yes everyone i know is good thank god but i weep heavily for the families in my community who lost a loved one.

[Bishop45]

Dawg...

[MettaWorldPanda]

Dawg...

We protect our court houses, sporting events, airports, politicians, celebrities, and any other places with mass gatherings with armed personnel. Why not our schools which carry the most precious cargo? As a father i want something done and this sounds like a logical solution. This is not a political issue for me. It's a safety issue that needs to be addressed. Bad guys don't give a chit about gun laws and will continue to target soft areas like schools. My suggestion is they federalize school security and at very least have a front line of defense. As of today i'm still able to walk into my child's school without very little resistance and that scares the crap out of me especially considering MSD is a hop skip away. I agree that we need common sense guns laws but we also need common sense security in our schools not just one armed school resource officer for 3,000 kids.

[Bishop45]

Dawg...

We protect our court houses, sporting events, airports, politicians, celebrities, and any other places with mass gatherings with armed personnel. Why not our schools which carry the most precious cargo? As a father i want something done and this sounds like a logical solution. This is not a political issue for me. It's a safety issue that needs to be addressed. Bad guys don't give a chit about gun laws and will continue to target soft areas like schools. My suggestion is they federalize school security and at very least have a front line of defense. As of today i'm still able to walk into my child's school without very little resistance and that scares the crap out of me especislly considering MSD is a hop skip away. I agree that we need common sense guns laws but we also need common sense security in our schools not just one armed school resource officer for 3,000 kids.

I'd rather not give an opportunity to turn school grounds into war zones, especially as a social institution with minors. Many of these veterans aren't trained for crisis on those levels with thousands of civilians at the helm and just as well, many deployed veterans are deployed for medical reasons such as PTSD. What if they misjudge a crisis situation for a simple fight or vice versa? They're trained to kill, not de-escalate... You can try to train them to do otherwise but if you've experienced actual combat, when confronted in a similar situation, it's likely that you'll regress to habits. I don't think anyone should want those guys around civilians in mass hysteria

Not to mention the type of money it would take to employ enough security to secure entire schools across the entire country.

Imo we have a gun problem, not a security issue, and it needs to be addressed. When you can buy an Assault Rifle before you can legally drink alcohol, real questions should arise. Bad guys don't give a chit about laws but we have laws in place to deter crime... Might as well get rid of all laws and accept that people are intrinsically bad

[MettaWorldPanda]

Dawg...

We protect our court houses, sporting events, airports, politicians, celebrities, and any other places with mass gatherings with armed personnel. Why not our schools which carry the most precious cargo? As a father i want something done and this sounds like a logical solution. This is not a political issue for me. It's a safety issue that needs to be addressed. Bad guys don't give a chit about gun laws and will continue to target soft areas like schools. My suggestion is they federalize school security and at very least have a front line of defense. As of today i'm still able to walk into my child's school without very little resistance and that scares the crap out of me especislly considering MSD is a hop skip away. I agree that we need common sense guns laws but we also need common sense security in our schools not just one armed school resource officer for 3,000 kids.

I'd rather not give an opportunity to turn school grounds into war zones, especially as a social institution with minors. Many of these veterans aren't trained for crisis on those levels with thousands of civilians at the helm and just as well, many deployed veterans are deployed for medical reasons such as PTSD. What if they misjudge a crisis situation for a simple fight or vice versa? They're trained to kill, not de-escalate... You can try to train them to do otherwise but if you've experienced actual combat, when confronted in a similar situation, it's likely that you'll regress to habits. I don't think anyone should want those guys around civilians in mass hysteria

Not to mention the type of money it would take to employ enough security to secure entire schools across the entire country.

Imo we have a gun problem, not a security issue, and it needs to be addressed. When you can buy an Assault Rifle before you can legally drink alcohol, real questions should arise. Bad guys don't give a chit about laws but we have laws in place to deter crime... Might as well get rid of all laws and accept that people are intrinsically bad

Is it really asking too much to protect our kids like we do everything else of value? I agree that it's insane that an 18 year old kid can go buy and AR-15. That chit does need to change. As for the cost of upgraded security. That's why i mentioned federalizing it and offer proper traning before deployed. We need deterrents at these schools just like every place else. Let's try it see what happens. I'm not opposed to common sense gun laws but I don't think disarming law abiding citizens is the end all be all.

[Bishop45]

Is it really asking too much to protect our kids like we do everything else of value? I agree that it's insane that an 18 year old kid can go buy and AR-15. That chit does need to change. As for the cost of upgraded security. That's why i mentioned federalizing it and offer proper traning before deployed. We need deterrents at these schools just like every place else. Let's try it see what happens. I'm not opposed to common sense gun laws but I don't think disarming law abiding citizens is the end all be all.

Don't need to disarm law-abiding citizens but stricter gun laws are definitely needed, should be much harder for an 18 yr old to get his hands on an AR, not to mention those with mental issues. Las vegas shooter bought over 30 guns over the span of a year and no red flags at all, it's unacceptable. Gun culture's corrosive at this point and needs to be addressed first imo. I don't see that as a political thing but that's me

Employing and properly training that many security guards would be impractical imo Gov would not pay for it, neither would taxpayers want to. Mandatory searches and metal detectors along with a few extra police officers would probably be more plausible and possibly more effective but it not only violates the state of one of our best institutions but does nothing to address the problem of mass shootings everywhere else, I still have to sit near the exit at the movie theatres

Rather, first, to have someones right to own an automatic handgun in jeopardy than to have my kids routinely searched and monitered

[fishfuego.]

We protect our court houses, sporting events, airports, politicians, celebrities, and any other places with mass gatherings with armed personnel. Why not our schools which carry the most precious cargo? As a father i want something done and this sounds like a logical solution. This is not a political issue for me. It's a safety issue that needs to be addressed. Bad guys don't give a chit about gun laws and will continue to target soft areas like schools. My suggestion is they federalize school security and at very least have a front line of defense. As of today i'm still able to walk into my child's school without very little resistance and that scares the crap out of me especislly considering MSD is a hop skip away. I agree that we need common sense guns laws but we also need common sense security in our schools not just one armed school resource officer for 3,000 kids.

I'd rather not give an opportunity to turn school grounds into war zones, especially as a social institution with minors. Many of these veterans aren't trained for crisis on those levels with thousands of civilians at the helm and just as well, many deployed veterans are deployed for medical reasons such as PTSD. What if they misjudge a crisis situation for a simple fight or vice versa? They're trained to kill, not de-escalate... You can try to train them to do otherwise but if you've experienced actual combat, when confronted in a similar situation, it's likely that you'll regress to habits. I don't think anyone should want those guys around civilians in mass hysteria

Not to mention the type of money it would take to employ enough security to secure entire schools across the entire country.

Imo we have a gun problem, not a security issue, and it needs to be addressed. When you can buy an Assault Rifle before you can legally drink alcohol, real questions should arise. Bad guys don't give a chit about laws but we have laws in place to deter crime... Might as well get rid of all laws and accept that people are intrinsically bad

Is it really asking too much to protect our kids like we do everything else of value? I agree that it's insane that an 18 year old kid can go buy and AR-15. That chit does need to change. As for the cost of upgraded security. That's why i mentioned federalizing it and offer proper traning before deployed. We need deterrents at these schools just like every place else. Let's try it see what happens. I'm not opposed to common sense gun laws but I don't think disarming law abiding citizens is the end all be all.

I agree with Panda. Bad guys will get guns no matter what. I rather have my own protection.

[JaysRule25]

Senseless tragedy Thoughts and prayers with the victims. Stay safe guis.

[contract]

Dawg...

We protect our court houses, sporting events, airports, politicians, celebrities, and any other places with mass gatherings with armed personnel. Why not our schools which carry the most precious cargo? As a father i want something done and this sounds like a logical solution. This is not a political issue for me. It's a safety issue that needs to be addressed. Bad guys don't give a chit about gun laws and will continue to target soft areas like schools. My suggestion is they federalize school security and at very least have a front line of defense. As of today i'm still able to walk into my child's school without very little resistance and that scares the crap out of me especially considering MSD is a hop skip away. I agree that we need common sense guns laws but we also need common sense security in our schools not just one armed school resource officer for 3,000 kids.

Locking kids up in prisons so they are safe sounds kind of ass backwards. This idiot didn't buy an illegal gun smuggled across the border by MS13 gang members, he went down to the local gun store and bought an assault rifle and an assload of ammo. Contrary to popular belief, most criminals use guns that were purchased legally, or were stolen from someone who purchased them legally.

[contract]

Dawg...

We protect our court houses, sporting events, airports, politicians, celebrities, and any other places with mass gatherings with armed personnel. Why not our schools which carry the most precious cargo? As a father i want something done and this sounds like a logical solution. This is not a political issue for me. It's a safety issue that needs to be addressed. Bad guys don't give a chit about gun laws and will continue to target soft areas like schools. My suggestion is they federalize school security and at very least have a front line of defense. As of today i'm still able to walk into my child's school without very little resistance and that scares the crap out of me especislly considering MSD is a hop skip away. I agree that we need common sense guns laws but we also need common sense security in our schools not just one armed school resource officer for 3,000 kids.

I'd rather not give an opportunity to turn school grounds into war zones, especially as a social institution with minors. Many of these veterans aren't trained for crisis on those levels with thousands of civilians at the helm and just as well, many deployed veterans are deployed for medical reasons such as PTSD. What if they misjudge a crisis situation for a simple fight or vice versa? They're trained to kill, not de-escalate... You can try to train them to do otherwise but if you've experienced actual combat, when confronted in a similar situation, it's likely that you'll regress to habits. I don't think anyone should want those guys around civilians in mass hysteria

Not to mention the type of money it would take to employ enough security to secure entire schools across the entire country.

Imo we have a gun problem, not a security issue, and it needs to be addressed. When you can buy an Assault Rifle before you can legally drink alcohol, real questions should arise. Bad guys don't give a chit about laws but we have laws in place to deter crime... Might as well get rid of all laws and accept that people are intrinsically bad

We need much tighter gun restrictions, but we also need to lock up the violent crazies.