Best value we can get for Love and the Brooklyn pick

Freighttrain · Post #1 » by **Freighttrain** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:50 pm

I'll start by saying what seems to be the general consensus. We won't win the title this year. Altman made, in my eyes, great roster moves by cleaning up the house and replacing it with young athletic players who can switch and play defense. Overall a solid A.

yet, these moves aren't getting us closer to the humongous gap between us and Golden State. So I'm wondering - IF LEBRON SAYS- what could we get for the pick+love that would make us genuinely competitive as in a 7 game series.

For those who think we can't trade 2 picks in 1 year ; we can draft our pick and trade him immediately so that's not a concern.

Post #2 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:32 pm

One of my favorite things about the deadline is that we didn't trade Love or the Brooklyn pick for a stupid return. Outside of a healthy A.D. or Kawhi, I really don't see a trade that involves Love AND the Brooklyn pick and leaves the Cavs in a better place.

Stillwater · Post #3 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:59 am

Freighttrain wrote:I'll start by saying what seems to be the general consensus. We won't win the title this year. Altman made, in my eyes, great roster moves by cleaning up the house and replacing it with young athletic players who can switch and play defense. Overall a solid A.

yet, these moves aren't getting us closer to the humongous gap between us and Golden State. So I'm wondering - IF LEBRON SAYS- what could we get for the pick+love that would make us genuinely competitive as in a 7 game series.

For those who think we can't trade 2 picks in 1 year ; we can draft our pick and trade him immediately so that's not a concern.

Sorry but that gap was significantly closed
With the removal of dead weight and further closed by the defensive upgrades.
I do not believe GSW will be who we face anyway...the Rockets are better

Post #4 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:18 am

I don't see us trading the Brooklyn pick at all.

gflem · Post #5 » by **gflem** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:11 pm

All of the above^^^. Except the Rockets part, not that it isn't possible but I don't see it right now. I am looking forward to the two Raptors games after the break to kind of get a gauge on how the new pieces fit against a quality opponent.

CaptainCanada · Post #6 » by **CaptainCanada** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:46 am

Judging by how much Cleveland got for a low-end 1st round pick.....Karl Towns, Jimmy Butler plus Poorzingis for Brooklyns first in three team deal.

Lundahl · Post #7 » by **Lundahl** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:46 pm

TT + Nets 1st rounder for DeAndre Jordan

This was my preferred option, and hopefully something that will be considered in the off-season. DJ and KLove's games would fit so well together, and they could split time at the 5.

Stillwater · Post #8 » by **Stillwater** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:08 pm

Lundahl wrote:TT + Nets 1st rounder for DeAndre Jordan

This was my preferred option, and hopefully something that will be considered in the off-season. DJ and KLove's games would fit so well together, and they could split time at the 5.

CLE is not trading whomever they pick in the draft for a declining player who will be opting out this summer.let alone lac having no interest in TT.
Look up the decline numbers his defense inside 5 feet when he's the closest defender is not worth more than a late first which is all we offered and will certainly not change that pov

kiwibrindle · Post #9 » by **kiwibrindle** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:57 pm

No way I trade the pick and Love but if I have to its to Lillard their pick and Nurkic.

bmurph128 · Post #10 » by **bmurph128** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:59 pm

jbk1234 wrote:One of my favorite things about the deadline is that we didn't trade Love or the Brooklyn pick for a stupid return. Outside of a healthy A.D. or Kawhi, I really don't see a trade that involves Love AND the Brooklyn pick and leaves the Cavs in a better place.

Call this a crazy hunch, but I think something is going on with Kawhi and the Spurs.

Also, while it would be vastly different and worse overall, Pop had Duncan and Robinson - I think he could make Love and Aldridge work.

That and whatever the Brooklyn pick ends up being - but I'll just say that I would trade Love and the Brooklyn pick for Kawhi in a heartbeat.

Post #11 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:17 pm

Lundahl wrote:TT + Nets 1st rounder for DeAndre Jordan

This was my preferred option, and hopefully something that will be considered in the off-season. DJ and KLove's games would fit so well together, and they could split time at the 5.

If the Cavs were willing to trade the Brooklyn pick for DAJ, DAJ would be on the Cavs already.

Stillwater · Post #12 » by **Stillwater** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:59 am

We are highly unlikely to trade Love unless LBJ bails which is even more unlikely.
Also don't see the Nets pick being packaged with Thompson unless it's 3-4th anything later than that we're hard pressed to get anyone to take on Thompson contract and depending on who's available in the spot we're at we might be better off keeping the drafted player. Beyond Doncic which would probably require a top 2 pick I think the odds are pretty solid we would keep one of Bamba Jackson Bagley and definitely Ayton.
Don't see us keeping another guard besides Doncic if those front court players are gone except maybe Young if he falls and we don't get a solid offer.
If we pick at 10-12 aka worse case scenario imo we could be stuck with drafting a player for need instead of a higher upside which doesn't hold enough trade value to move like Daniel Gafford or
Swing for the fences on a player like Robinson or Simons who have not played at the collegiate or intl level but won't do anything for this roster unless LeBron leaves,which would precipitate him leaving probably