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Moving forward with Blake

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Upgrade PG or upgrade the wing?

RJ Luke Ellenson and draft picks to upgrade PG
17
77%
Luke Ellenson draft picks with either SJ or Bullock to upgrade the wing
5
23%
 
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Moving forward with Blake 

Post#1 » by Canadafan » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:42 pm

Like it or not this is our reality fellow Pistons fans.
The trade has been made.
Moving forward, would we be best to upgrade Reggie?
Or keep Reggie and upgrade one of the wing spots?
I know the negative Nancy's are gonna say we're screwed and we have nothing to trade but let's keep it positive kids. :D

RJ Luke Ellenson and draft picks to upgrade PG
Or Luke Ellenson draft picks with either SJ or Bullock to upgrade the wing.
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Post#2 » by sc8581 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:47 pm

I voted but this should probably wait until after Reggie comes back and we see how thing go.
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Post#3 » by MotownMadness » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:57 pm

I go after a upgrade at PG. I know Reggie didn't have the same injury this year but that's two years in a row he's cost us damage in and out of the lineup for long periods of time.

We need a reliable AllStar level PG to move forward with. I think we go after Kemba in the offseason as Charlotte has to make a decision with him entering the final year and they are really screwed where they are at right now.

A big 3 with the proper fillers of Kemba, Blake and Drummond at least keeps things competitive and entertaining in the East for next 3-4 years til we see what happens and where we are at the end of Drummonds contract
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Post#4 » by Billl » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:07 pm

Not really a fair poll without knowing what is coming back.
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Post#5 » by Manocad » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:15 pm

Billl wrote:Not really a fair poll without knowing what is coming back.

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Post#6 » by hoophabit » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:31 pm

I may select no options where this poll is concerned.
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Post#7 » by Canadafan » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:33 pm

Oh come on now. How about we use our imagination.... I cannot predict an exact thing to happen.
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Post#8 » by Canadafan » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:42 pm

How about RJ Luke Ellenson and draft picks for Kemba or..... Luke Ellenson SJ Galloway and draft picks for Fournier
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Post#9 » by haulerch » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:56 pm

If we can snag a top-15 PG in a trade then great, but I am not too concerned with that because I think Blake Griffin is someone who has to have the ball in his hands and I am intrigued by him facilitating the offense at times.

I’m more interested in putting competent shooters who play with effort around him. At this moment, putting two non-shooters like Ish and SJ around Blake/Dre isn’t great. Obviously Ish is by necessity, but I’d be ok with trading RJ since he can’t stay healthy for whatever we can get. Sign a vet 3&D PG who plays his role. On the wing, I’m good with Bullock, Ennis, Luke and hopefully SJ can develop a shot. If not, I try to get a lights out shooter like Fournier.
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Post#10 » by MotownMadness » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:19 pm

Dragic is another one I could see the Heat maybe moving now. Heat are capped out and kinda stuck but he's a bit older then I want
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Post#11 » by DCintheD » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:33 pm

we should trade Drummond for a pg. dude gets monster stats but is dumb as bricks. probly has the lowest iq on this roster filled with low iq players. need to capitalize on his value before it gets low again.
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Post#12 » by Billl » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:07 pm

Canadafan wrote:Oh come on now. How about we use our imagination.... I cannot predict an exact thing to happen.


That's fine, it just really depends on what is out there. We would love to upgrade pg and the wing. The wing probably has the greatest gap between where we are and where we need to be. The PG slot is probably the biggest potential for turning into contenders if we got a significant upgrade over a healthy RJ.
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Post#13 » by Canadafan » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:08 pm

DCintheD wrote:we should trade Drummond for a pg. dude gets monster stats but is dumb as bricks. probly has the lowest iq on this roster filled with low iq players. need to capitalize on his value before it gets low again.


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Post#14 » by Mogolo » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:21 pm

I'm not Voting , I'd like to see what RJ and griff can do.
Also i'm not ready to give up on either LK or SJ.
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Post#15 » by ImHeisenberg » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:49 pm

Imagine an alternate reality, where SVG isn't completely incompetent at drafting, and we have ROY likely, Donovan Mitchell. Where we traded Avery Bradley for Jae Crowder, and now run a starting 5 of RJ, Mitchell, Crowder, Harris and Drummond. RJ and Mitchell driving and kicking to competent outside shooters and dishing to Dre for lobs, with him completely owning the paint.


Then, gaze back at what our reality is. Smell that stench? It's the stink of failure. Blake and Andre's overlapping games. Blake clanking everything outside of 15 feet. Defenses completely leaving Ish and Stanley Johnson alone at the 3 point line. Some of the ugliest basketball we've seen, propping fans up on a 5 game win streak that was ridiculously easy.

Yeah, I've been through a lot as a Pistons fan. All the mediocrity of the 90's, but at least we had Grant Hill, which was fun to watch. Then, the post-Billups era, which is still ongoing in my opinion. Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanotrya, Trading a lottery pick with Gordon so we could pay for Josh Smith, who we're paying over $5 a year until the end of time. SVG signing and overpaying terrible role players like they're above average starters.

And now, five years of this antiquated 2-big system that 29 other teams already know doesn't work when neither can reliably shoot. I think I'm about ready to check out on this disaster of a team. I ask myself almost daily when I think about the Pistons, "Why? Why do you have an attachment to this team simply due to geographic location?"

This team is like staying with a girl that's cheated on you a dozen times, steals money out of your wallet while you sleep because you keep thinking she's going to change- even though there's been zero indication that she will. You just keep giving her a key to your place, and hoping one day you'll come home and the house will be clean and dinner will be ready. But, the reality is that you come home, and she cleaned you out and has the gull to show back up a few days later asking for another chance.
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Re: Moving forward with Blake 

Post#16 » by buzzkilloton » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:39 am

You forgot a option

3.none of the above.

Trading more picks so the next GM has nothing to work with whatsoever. GTFO with that. Only trades SVG should be making are to clear cap space or trades that dont use picks AND that come off the books next season. Hes got one more year with us and then the SVG chase 8 seed era is finally over.

At this point we run the Blake/Rjax/Drummond trio and thats that. If SVG wants to trade something he can trade the guys he brought us in his era here in Blake/Jackson/Kennard/Stanley/Ellenson/Leuer/Galloway for draft picks and cap relief for the next guy who takes the job. Having him trade future 1st rounds pick to lose in the first round when hes about to be out of town NO WAY!
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Re: Moving forward with Blake 

Post#17 » by Canadafan » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:34 am

Mogolo wrote:I'm not Voting , I'd like to see what RJ and griff can do.
Also i'm not ready to give up on either LK or SJ.


Fair enough. I like the positive thinking im hoping RJ SJ and Luke come alive for us after the ASB!
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Post#18 » by Canadafan » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:37 am

Billl wrote:
Canadafan wrote:Oh come on now. How about we use our imagination.... I cannot predict an exact thing to happen.


That's fine, it just really depends on what is out there. We would love to upgrade pg and the wing. The wing probably has the greatest gap between where we are and where we need to be. The PG slot is probably the biggest potential for turning into contenders if we got a significant upgrade over a healthy RJ.


That's why imo I'd rather upgrade the wing and hope/pray RJ becomes that top 15 PG we need
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Post#19 » by Canadafan » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:50 am

MotownMadness wrote:I go after a upgrade at PG. I know Reggie didn't have the same injury this year but that's two years in a row he's cost us damage in and out of the lineup for long periods of time.

We need a reliable AllStar level PG to move forward with. I think we go after Kemba in the offseason as Charlotte has to make a decision with him entering the final year and they are really screwed where they are at right now.

A big 3 with the proper fillers of Kemba, Blake and Drummond at least keeps things competitive and entertaining in the East for next 3-4 years til we see what happens and where we are at the end of Drummonds contract


I'd be happy with either option tbh. Getting Kemba would definitely be exciting. Goes to show you we're not far off. Literally one more move brings us to the top of the east. Not as far away as some of the naysayers keep preaching. Its like the complaining becomes habit and they just can't stop themselves lol. Like ok! We get it! Stop repeating the same thing over and over again :crazy: :banghead: :lol:
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Post#20 » by Canadafan » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:53 am

haulerch wrote:If we can snag a top-15 PG in a trade then great, but I am not too concerned with that because I think Blake Griffin is someone who has to have the ball in his hands and I am intrigued by him facilitating the offense at times.

I’m more interested in putting competent shooters who play with effort around him. At this moment, putting two non-shooters like Ish and SJ around Blake/Dre isn’t great. Obviously Ish is by necessity, but I’d be ok with trading RJ since he can’t stay healthy for whatever we can get. Sign a vet 3&D PG who plays his role. On the wing, I’m good with Bullock, Ennis, Luke and hopefully SJ can develop a shot. If not, I try to get a lights out shooter like Fournier.


I used Fournier in my example. Thanks for the reminder :D
Considering the rumor that we had interest in him makes me think maybe we could snag him in offseason. He'd be great here

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