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Political Roundtable Part XVIII

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1261 » by cammac » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:37 pm

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nate33 wrote:What other charges could have been pending? Violating the freaking Logan Act?


None are pending as long as he doesn't lie! You are your arrogant self to delude yourself that what he pleaded guilty to are the only charges Mueller has! I don't know and neither do you!

You are just as arrogant to assume that Mueller has all this other stuff against him. I recall at the time that all the legal experts said that if Flynn is pleading out to just lying in FBI interview, it means they don't have much serious on him because the penalty for lying to an FBI agent is so small that it doesn't provide much leverage.

As I said before, it seems like everything negative about Trump, whether classified or not, gets leaked to the media in an effort to hurt him. You have to believe that, this time, Mueller and all of his investigators and all of his Deep State informants have remained incredibly disciplined and have avoided leaking anti-Trump information.


Tell me one leak that came from the Mueller investigation?
More leaks have come from the White House than any single source.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1262 » by cammac » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:52 pm

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nate33 wrote:What other charges could have been pending? Violating the freaking Logan Act?


None are pending as long as he doesn't lie! You are your arrogant self to delude yourself that what he pleaded guilty to are the only charges Mueller has! I don't know and neither do you!

You are just as arrogant to assume that Mueller has all this other stuff against him. I recall at the time that all the legal experts said that if Flynn is pleading out to just lying in FBI interview, it means they don't have much serious on him because the penalty for lying to an FBI agent is so small that it doesn't provide much leverage.

As I said before, it seems like everything negative about Trump, whether classified or not, gets leaked to the media in an effort to hurt him. You have to believe that, this time, Mueller and all of his investigators and all of his Deep State informants have remained incredibly disciplined and have avoided leaking anti-Trump information.


Could you please tell me who the DEEP STATE IS
#1Rothchilds
#2 Knights Templar's/Masons
#3 Aliens
#4 Pizza Gate
On and On
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1263 » by cammac » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:06 pm

His Magnificence is putting aside his golf game to honor the slain students and did a token photo op for 30 minutes on his way to Mar-a- Lago.

“That was so modest, I would have told it much differently,” Trump to the officer. “I would have said without me, they never would have found him."

He praised emergency responders for what he called a “record-setting” response to the shooting.


I'm quite sure he would have told one of his fanciful tales of what a hero he was!

The president was harshly criticized on Twitter for sharing photos of himself giving a “thumbs up” while visiting the hospital and first responders.

Trump regularly golfs when he stays in Florida at his Mar-a-Lago resort, which is located about 40 miles from where the high school where a gunman killed 17 and injured at least 14 people on Wednesday.


http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/374397-trump-says-he-is-skipping-golf-to-honor-the-florida-shooting-victims
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Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1264 » by stilldropin20 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:18 pm

cammac wrote:
nate33 wrote:
cammac wrote:
None are pending as long as he doesn't lie! You are your arrogant self to delude yourself that what he pleaded guilty to are the only charges Mueller has! I don't know and neither do you!

You are just as arrogant to assume that Mueller has all this other stuff against him. I recall at the time that all the legal experts said that if Flynn is pleading out to just lying in FBI interview, it means they don't have much serious on him because the penalty for lying to an FBI agent is so small that it doesn't provide much leverage.

As I said before, it seems like everything negative about Trump, whether classified or not, gets leaked to the media in an effort to hurt him. You have to believe that, this time, Mueller and all of his investigators and all of his Deep State informants have remained incredibly disciplined and have avoided leaking anti-Trump information.


Could you please tell me who the DEEP STATE IS
#1Rothchilds
#2 Knights Templar's/Masons
#3 Aliens
#4 Pizza Gate
On and On

At this point you are clearly purposely being disingenuous. You can clearly name at least five or six deep state officials yourself. Here’s a hint text messages


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1265 » by Pointgod » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:20 pm

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My God the Trump administration is so dumb. By claiming they've been vindicated by Mueller they've given up any pretense that the investigation is some kind of witch hunt. When more indictments come that hit people in the Trump campaign what will Nate and SD20 say then?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1266 » by verbal8 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:27 pm

nate33 wrote:
cammac wrote:
nate33 wrote:What other charges could have been pending? Violating the freaking Logan Act?


None are pending as long as he doesn't lie! You are your arrogant self to delude yourself that what he pleaded guilty to are the only charges Mueller has! I don't know and neither do you!

You are just as arrogant to assume that Mueller has all this other stuff against him. I recall at the time that all the legal experts said that if Flynn is pleading out to just lying in FBI interview, it means they don't have much serious on him because the penalty for lying to an FBI agent is so small that it doesn't provide much leverage.

That is the point of plea deal, that even if the involvement is serious, the charges may not be serious if the cooperation is valuable. That Flynn is getting a light deal, is a bad sign for those in the closer part of Trump's circle. If Flynn and a couple other guys went rouge, there might be a plea, but it wouldn't be that lenient.

Also the charge being lying to the FBI means he is at a disadvantage as a witness. Anyone one who has watched at least a couple episodes of Law&Order could figure out how to start that cross examination. This means what he has is likely supported by other sources.

nate33 wrote:As I said before, it seems like everything negative about Trump, whether classified or not, gets leaked to the media in an effort to hurt him. You have to believe that, this time, Mueller and all of his investigators and all of his Deep State informants have remained incredibly disciplined and have avoided leaking anti-Trump information.

All the evidence is that Mueller's investigation is incredibly disciplined. Other than who he meets with, he has released the vast majority of any information about his investigation.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1267 » by gtn130 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:27 pm

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My God the Trump administration is so dumb. By claiming they've been vindicated by Mueller they've given up any pretense that the investigation is some kind of witch hunt. When more indictments come that hit people in the Trump campaign what will Nate and SD20 say then?


Not sure this will make much difference tbh. Trump and his followers are totally shameless.

They’ll readily cite wapo or NYT if it supports their narrative but otherwise it’s all fake news. Mueller is a truth teller when he is doing something Trump likes but if he indictes Jared Kushner it’s time to shut down the witch hunt.

Key to all of this is that Trump and his followers are dishonest and have zero integrity
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1268 » by cammac » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:27 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
cammac wrote:
nate33 wrote:You are just as arrogant to assume that Mueller has all this other stuff against him. I recall at the time that all the legal experts said that if Flynn is pleading out to just lying in FBI interview, it means they don't have much serious on him because the penalty for lying to an FBI agent is so small that it doesn't provide much leverage.

As I said before, it seems like everything negative about Trump, whether classified or not, gets leaked to the media in an effort to hurt him. You have to believe that, this time, Mueller and all of his investigators and all of his Deep State informants have remained incredibly disciplined and have avoided leaking anti-Trump information.


Could you please tell me who the DEEP STATE IS
#1Rothchilds
#2 Knights Templar's/Masons
#3 Aliens
#4 Pizza Gate
On and On

At this point you are clearly purposely being disingenuous. You can clearly name at least five or six deep state officials yourself. Here’s a hint text messages


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Isn't the Deep State untraceable and so super secret that NO ONE would know especially Twiddle Dumb & Twiddle Dee. My guess is Hannity is the leader!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1269 » by verbal8 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:32 pm

JWizmentality wrote:I'm going to go out on a ledge and say Mueller is far smarter than you. :lol:


There is a good chance he is smarter than the vast majority of us.

EG on the other hand...
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1270 » by JWizmentality » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:42 pm

Its quite simple. Speak ill of Cadet Bone Spurs and you're part of the deep state. And here's the trippy part. Everyone that's a part of the deep state has no idea what it is. So we can never be caught. :D

Ah, but nate and sd20 are regular Hardy Boys let me tell ya. :D

When last we left the Hardy Boys, they were tracking down the Sidney Blumenthal connection with the Dossier by deep state operative Christopher Steele. They hold their information exchange sessions out of a Comet Pizza.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1271 » by gtn130 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:45 pm

JWizmentality wrote:Its quite simple. Speak ill of Cadet Bone Spurs and you're part of the deep state.


Even Trump appointees like Wray and Rosenstein instanteously became corrupted deep state Soros puppets seemingly overnight
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1272 » by Pointgod » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:47 pm

gtn130 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
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My God the Trump administration is so dumb. By claiming they've been vindicated by Mueller they've given up any pretense that the investigation is some kind of witch hunt. When more indictments come that hit people in the Trump campaign what will Nate and SD20 say then?


Not sure this will make much difference tbh. Trump and his followers are totally shameless.

They’ll readily cite wapo or NYT if it supports their narrative but otherwise it’s all fake news. Mueller is a truth teller when he is doing something Trump likes but if he indictes Jared Kushner it’s time to shut down the witch hunt.

Key to all of this is that Trump and his followers are dishonest and have zero integrity


I don't doubt that but Nate and SD20 agree with the assessment that this particular indictment didn't turn up collusion. So if that's the case then Robert Mueller is not biased and the investigation is completely legitimate. Because if you didn't trust Mueller and the deep state in the first place then you wouldn't give legitimacy to any claim. I know they'll try to twist it around but I'm just making sure everyone sees this so they can roast them when the next set of indictments come down.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1273 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:19 am

First comes the crime. Then comes conspiracy to commit the crime. Then comes obstruction of justice.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1274 » by JWizmentality » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:23 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:First comes the crime. Then comes conspiracy to commit the crime. Then comes obstruction of justice.


I think the money laundering piece will be the big drop. I can't even fathom what Mueller and his team have dug up. Keep in mind the FBI have also been tracking Trump's business dealings as well. Trump's biggest mistake was to take on the intelligence community with the amount of corruption he's involved with.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1275 » by dckingsfan » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:18 am

JWizmentality wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:First comes the crime. Then comes conspiracy to commit the crime. Then comes obstruction of justice.

I think the money laundering piece will be the big drop. I can't even fathom what Mueller and his team have dug up. Keep in mind the FBI have also been tracking Trump's business dealings as well. Trump's biggest mistake was to take on the intelligence community with the amount of corruption he's involved with.

I think his mistake was running for POTUS. I don't think he thought he would win :)
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1276 » by closg00 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:26 am

JWizmentality wrote:Its quite simple. Speak ill of Cadet Bone Spurs and you're part of the deep state. And here's the trippy part. Everyone that's a part of the deep state has no idea what it is. So we can never be caught. :D

Ah, but nate and sd20 are regular Hardy Boys let me tell ya. :D

When last we left the Hardy Boys, they were tracking down the Sidney Blumenthal connection with the Dossier by deep state operative Christopher Steele. They hold their information exchange sessions out of a Comet Pizza.


:lol: This is the genius of invoking it, it is absolutely meaningless, an empty bucket to throw sh_it it when you don't have facts. When that fails, just chirp Clinton or Obama.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1277 » by nate33 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:33 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1278 » by DCZards » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:38 am

dckingsfan wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:First comes the crime. Then comes conspiracy to commit the crime. Then comes obstruction of justice.

I think the money laundering piece will be the big drop. I can't even fathom what Mueller and his team have dug up. Keep in mind the FBI have also been tracking Trump's business dealings as well. Trump's biggest mistake was to take on the intelligence community with the amount of corruption he's involved with.

I think his mistake was running for POTUS. I don't think he thought he would win :)


I don't think Melania thought DT would win either...and for news to come out about his multiple affairs.

You can tell the First Lady is pissed. But as SD20 pointed out a few pages back...women have every right to display and express their feelings. :lol:
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1279 » by closg00 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:40 am

cammac wrote:
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None are pending as long as he doesn't lie! You are your arrogant self to delude yourself that what he pleaded guilty to are the only charges Mueller has! I don't know and neither do you!

You are just as arrogant to assume that Mueller has all this other stuff against him. I recall at the time that all the legal experts said that if Flynn is pleading out to just lying in FBI interview, it means they don't have much serious on him because the penalty for lying to an FBI agent is so small that it doesn't provide much leverage.

As I said before, it seems like everything negative about Trump, whether classified or not, gets leaked to the media in an effort to hurt him. You have to believe that, this time, Mueller and all of his investigators and all of his Deep State informants have remained incredibly disciplined and have avoided leaking anti-Trump information.


Could you please tell me who the DEEP STATE IS
#1Rothchilds
#2 Knights Templar's/Masons
#3 Aliens
#4 Pizza Gate
On and On


The "Deep State" is to government what "the liberal media" is to WH press coverage. Remember, reporting facts conservatives don't like, is labeled "bias". Law Enforcement officials investigating potential wrong=doing, or bringing indictments against a conservative, is slapped wth the Deep State label.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1280 » by gtn130 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:44 am

dckingsfan wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:First comes the crime. Then comes conspiracy to commit the crime. Then comes obstruction of justice.

I think the money laundering piece will be the big drop. I can't even fathom what Mueller and his team have dug up. Keep in mind the FBI have also been tracking Trump's business dealings as well. Trump's biggest mistake was to take on the intelligence community with the amount of corruption he's involved with.

I think his mistake was running for POTUS. I don't think he thought he would win :)


He 100% had no plans of winning and was totally shook on election night after he won

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