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Post#661 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:43 pm

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13th Man wrote:The point of the FISA memo getting released was to expose how the dems did not follow proper protocol to obtain the search warrant. Their manipulation of the high-ranking officials within the FBI and the Justice System undermines the integrity of the system.


This is how misinformation is passed along. The Nunes memo is NOT the "FISA" memo. You have no leg to stand on regarding the memo to be the SOLE source of the FISA. An of course you can't explain how a republican appointed attorney general EXTENDED the request for the FISA warrant for a 4th time. Anyone can state specific facts to make a person's point. When are you going to look at the entirety of the facts?


You're right, I got the terms mixed up. Even though the Nunes memo was not the sole source, some character (McCabe?) testified under oath that the FISA warrant would not have been granted if not for this memo. Since this memo was not vetted properly, this entire process comes into question. The memo also confirms that the political origins of the Steele Dossier, that it was bought and paid for by Hillary and the DNC, were not disclosed to the FISA court.

I'm not going to delve deeply into this memo thing. The takeaway here is that the Dems did some funny business with the help of their high level cronies at the FBI and Justice Dept. to get obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Trump's team.

That's all the American people need to know. Obama was able to spy on a Trump team member without following proper protocol which undermines the integrity of the system.


This is complete and utter nonsense. The Democrats have NOTHING to do with a FISA warranted being issued, a judge has to review evidence and rationale behind reauthorizing a warrant request. Clearly, whatever was presented to the court regarding Carter Page's activities with the Russians led cause for alarm and thus the warrant was reauthorized. You are displaying a gross level of ignorance about the legal system, FISA courts, etc that is embarrassing to read. All of these "cronies" of the Democrats are lifelong Republicans like Robert Mueller, James Comey, Rosenstein, etc. The FBI itself, as well as American law enforcement in general, is overwhelmingly conservative. This narrative that the FBI is some political tool for the Democrats is a load of garbage. Stop reading Breitbart. Stop watching Fox News.

The FBI wasn't spying on Trump's team, but Carter Page was under FBI surveillance for years prior to him joining the Trump Campaign as a "foreign policy advisor". The memo itself came under FBI scrutiny when John McCain, a Republican, brought it to their attention. The reason Trump, Nunes, etc are panicking is because certain people got caught on an authorized wiretap talking to people that they had no business talking to. Nunes was a member of Trump's transition team. Do the math.


Answer me this question. If there was no conspiracy or dealings with the Russians, why has Donald Trump refused to implement sanctions against Russia after congress voted almost in lock step in favor of them for meddling in our election process (which is now proven to be true)?
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Post#662 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:50 pm

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I don't. Why would I lie about this? I don't need to justify anything do you as you are the one that is clearly obsessed with the alt-right, not me. It's no wonder you accuse anybody supporting Trump of being alt-right because that's the alt-world that you live in. Very strange.

I suggest that you quit delving into alt-right sources as it's messing with how you percieve normal people views in the real world.


There is literally nothing normal about your views, which are clearly detached from reality. No wonder you yell out "fake news" any time you come across something that isn't agreeable to you.

It's also funny that you, a fan of former breitbart editor at large Ben Shapiro, is trying to deny the alt right when your views are pretty much the same as theirs, you're up in here talking about MAGA and you sung the praises of Milo Yiannopoulos . :-?



Ben Shapiro detatched himself from Breitbart. You realize that you can still agree with some stances from Breitbart and not be a racist right? When did I sing the praises of Milo? I don't listen to him much actually, maybe have caught 1 or 2 of his videos on Youube. I may agree with some of his stuff I may not, same goes for Ann Coulter. All it would mean is that I like some of their ideas. To you, they are Hitler, to others they make sense. Obviously, you will never accept that though, that there are normal people that have differing ideaologies, that doesn't mean that they are bad people.

It's so funny that you guys sit there and paint me a racist when I just came back from teaching a class full of multicutured people. I interact with people from all walks of life every single day through my teachings. I'm not going to post the picture but my facebook profile is me with 3 of my closest friends, a Loatian, a Lebanese and a Black guy who originated fron Congo....I'm just laughing my ass off right now because you guys are clueless. My black friend despises BLM btw, he realizes that it's a racist organization in itself.

Just because I, along with half of the United States, don't share your views means that we are racist right? Let's not stop there, we are Hitler too just like Trump. Note that Fox news has the highest ratings on TV, so I guess all of those people are detached from reality too right? Because they don't share the views that you do??


You're the one that injected Hitler in this conversation, not me.

"Yes, I may agree with a racist who says racist things, but no...I'm not a racist."

Is this correct? This is what you're saying in a nutshell? And please...spare me the whole "I have a black friend" spiel. That makes it look even worse. Oh, and I'm not a fan of BLM either for particular reasons (nor do I believe they are a racist organization because they *gasp* dare stand up for black people in the US) and I'm black....so your friend isn't exactly special.

Fox News having high ratings and them telling the truth are two separate things, by the way.

And based on Trump's 30 something percent approval rating, I'd say that your claim about "half the United States" sharing your views is a fallacy.
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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#663 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:54 pm

13th Man wrote:I'm willing to bet that I come in close contact with more people of various races than anyone here on a daily basis. I just got back from teaching maybe 40 different people and spend an extra half hour conversing with them individually afterwards. This is a daily thing for me and I love connecting with people in real life. I'm just glad that I don't teach politics or else I'd have to take lessons from Jordan Peterson on how to deal with the over-sensitive people of today's generation.

It's hilarious to be accused of being a racist on a message board when you guys sit in your little bubble and hate on everybody that does not share the same view.


You would lose that bet.

And just because you interact with different kinds of people daily doesn't really mean anything, that's like saying a white person who has sex with a black person is incapable of being racist.

I'm not calling you a racist...but you've expressed support for known racists and say that you agree with the things that they say...so it's kind of difficult not to think that you are when you've cast this light onto yourself.
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Post#664 » by Rich Rane » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:22 am



Honest question to either side of the aisle, will one gun control law be passed before the midterms?
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Post#665 » by AndySF » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:00 am

13th Man wrote:I'm willing to bet that I come in close contact with more people of various races than anyone here on a daily basis. I just got back from teaching maybe 40 different people and spend an extra half hour conversing with them individually afterwards. This is a daily thing for me and I love connecting with people in real life. I'm just glad that I don't teach politics or else I'd have to take lessons from Jordan Peterson on how to deal with the over-sensitive people of today's generation.

It's hilarious to be accused of being a racist on a message board when you guys sit in your little bubble and hate on everybody that does not share the same view.



First, let me introduce myself. I am a long time Lin Fan lurking these Nets board for news of him and the Net. I found the player and coach on this Nets team give me more than enough to cheer for. I had never found the need to register to comment to either side of many arguments no matter how strongly I feel about them because it's understandable that people will have difference of opinions.

Your many post in this thread finally got me to register to just to reply. Please don't take this as painting you racist or any kind of nut job. I am just simply trying to offer my two cents that you don't have to agree with.

I myself is a Chinese immigrant since my teen who lived the majority of my life in US. A Navy Veteran who had been the only Asian on a ship of over 400, so I know a few things about diversity (or lack of). I can tell you from first hand that racism exist big time whether you choose to believe it or not. I despises the left and the right equally and living in a liberal city like San Francisco amplified my dislike of the left. To me, politician are all just selfish egotistic opportunist who incite and magnify problems so that they can have a platform to get votes and finance for personal gain. Still, Racism is real and I am not sure how anyone who don't live here can understand.

How often do you live in the US? You see, I am not sure a Canadian like yourself can possibly understand the complexity of our situation when Canada have a racial make up of 80% White, 4% Native, 12% Asian with only 3% Black and 1% all other race and with hardly any history of Slavery. I once got cuffed years ago by just parking on the side of the road in bright daylight with my 3 years old daughter in the car crying (in San Francisco no less) because of the way I dress and the car I drove ( a flagship Jaguar). Some old white lady don't think that can possibly be my car because I don't look the part and call the cops :banghead: Imagine what would happen if I have darker skin.

As far as Trump supporters, I think the majority of them just ignorance more than anything else. Although the are racist element in the group is most noticeable because they felt embolden by trump's pandering (not unlike any politician except that he cross the line when pandering to the racist) . " Make America Great Again", what does it even mean? Do people truly believe that? Job that had gone oversea are never coming back. At least not to workers. They can get a machine to do the work of ten people with one trained worker. The machine don't get pay, vacation or benefits and can operate around the clock.Heck, they won't need paid driver soon. If you think the average American having a hard time making ends meet, just wait till Walmart is out of business and they have to triple their daily expenses.

Why should anyone feel sorry for American who were born and raise here who don't bother to better themselves and make a better future for themselves. The world is moving forward, move with it or get left behind. Personal accountability, isn't that what the right always preach? Or is it only apply to people of color?

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Post#666 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:57 am

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Honest question to either side of the aisle, will one gun control law be passed before the midterms?

This kinda thing happens all the times, why would it be different this time?

If some "utopians" have their way, all the students (supposedly good) would have a gun to defend themselves. So it wouldn't be 17 deaths, maybe only 5 or something, with automatic weapons.

But the frequency of shootings would likely be much higher
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Post#667 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:57 am

AndySF wrote:I once got cuffed years ago by just parking on the side of the road in bright daylight with my 3 years old daughter in the car crying (in San Francisco no less) because of the way I dress and the car I drove ( a flagship Jaguar). Some old white lady don't think that can possibly be my car because I don't look the part and call the cops :banghead:

Dang, that must have been ages ago. You fought in Vietnam or something?

Why should anyone feel sorry for American who were born and raise here who don't bother to better themselves and make a better future for themselves. The world is moving forward, move with it or get left behind. Personal accountability, isn't that what the right always preach?

Lots of votes and money.
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Post#668 » by 13th Man » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:03 pm

AndySF, thanks for sharing your story. Racism definitely exists and is more prominent in the U.S. than it is in Canada (from my experience) but it doesn't have to be. Trump's MAGA does not represent Make White People Great Again, hence why the Black unemployment rate has been its lowest it's been in 17 years. It's a shame that everything has to boil down to race when there are much more important issues at stake to fix.

Laura Ingram of Fox news call out Lebron and Durant, telling them to "Shut Up and Dribble", as she calls out other White celebrities. She had a best selling book called, "Shut up and Sing", so this was kind of her patented tag line. Of course the left blew up over this as they usually do and make it out to be about race.

Leftist celebrities are clueless imo. They have a right to spew their nonsense but I would probably say the same thing them. Shut up and act, shut and play, shut up and dribble. You are good at one thing, that doesn't make you an expert on political affairs so just shut up and do what you do. Just as I would say the same to Jimmy Kimmel, shut up about politics and go back to telling funny jokes and interviews. People tune into you guys for your talent in that one area, leave the politics aside. I don't discuss politics at my workplace, they shouldn't either.

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Post#669 » by 13th Man » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:28 pm

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13th Man wrote:I'm willing to bet that I come in close contact with more people of various races than anyone here on a daily basis. I just got back from teaching maybe 40 different people and spend an extra half hour conversing with them individually afterwards. This is a daily thing for me and I love connecting with people in real life. I'm just glad that I don't teach politics or else I'd have to take lessons from Jordan Peterson on how to deal with the over-sensitive people of today's generation.

It's hilarious to be accused of being a racist on a message board when you guys sit in your little bubble and hate on everybody that does not share the same view.


You would lose that bet.

And just because you interact with different kinds of people daily doesn't really mean anything, that's like saying a white person who has sex with a black person is incapable of being racist.

I'm not calling you a racist...but you've expressed support for known racists and say that you agree with the things that they say...so it's kind of difficult not to think that you are when you've cast this light onto yourself.


You see, the difference between the way I see racism and the way you guys see it is that I have become more tolerant and learned to deal with racism differently. I experience it too, big time and acknowledge that it exists. The only difference is that instead of responding with hate, I respond by helping and doing what I can do to break these tensions. You do that by helping people and at the end, we all come together when they realize that you're there to help no matter what race.

As a result, many of the people that have brushed me off initially end up trusting and embracing me after they realize my true intentions. Ironically, I get a lot of brushback from people of my own kind because I am going against the grain of what we are supposed to be and they can't accept that, how ironic. I am lucky to be in a position where I can do this, I shouldn't say lucky because I've worked my ass off to get into this position. I should say that I am grateful to be in this position of influence.

The reason why I despise the hardcore left has little to do with race, it has to do with accountability and responsiblity and I've been singing this same tune for a long time. You are in full control of your life, if **** doesn't go your way rather than blaming society or blaming others, do something yourself to make your life and society better. I'm not saying that you can't voice your opinion, that is your right to do so, but it's the losers that I see spending 90% of their energy whining and complaining while they do nothing themselves to make their own lives better. It's like they don't respect the democratic process and cannot accept a loss *cough* Hillary Clinton *cough*. Yes, you have a right to peacefully protest but don't go ANTIFA on people. Academic institutions should not be pushing one political agenda on their students either. That actually pisses me off more than anything, when the media and higher learning instructions try to manipulate the thoughts and stances of the people, especially the young kids who are just opening up to intellectual discourse. I spent a large chunk of my life learning in the States and it wasn't like this back then, not in my field anyway. Something has changed along the way where people have become over-sensitized and you can't have anything that remotely offends a certain type of people. Just wait until these kids get into the real world and see how much competition and cutthroat it is, where they don't have safe spaces to crawl to.

If you guys haven't noticed, I engaged in this politics thread mainly to express my outrage with the Sir Wilfred Laurier University / Lindsay Shepherd / Jordan Peterson fiasco. This had to do with censorship in higher education and professors deliberately trying to push their political narratives onto vulnerable "free-thinking" students.

Then I made a big stink about the Jordan Peterson / Cathie Newman interview where it was more about mindset of the left/media/feminist and the dishonest tactics that they try to use against a brilliant professor and clinical psychologist who would have none of that. Jordan Peterson is a hero of mine because he continuously exposes the flaws of the leftist mindset.

So to have to repeatedly defend myself as not being a racist is laughable, because there are a myriad of other reasons why I am against the left to which none have anything to with race.
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Post#670 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:00 pm

Rich Rane wrote:

Honest question to either side of the aisle, will one gun control law be passed before the midterms?


I don't expect any meaningful legislation to be passed for the remainder of this year and hell, to be frank, until Trump is out of office. Anything meaningful will be vetoed by him.

Democrats will need control of the house, senate and white house to get sensible gun laws on the books. it can happen because the GOP has gone flying off the rails to the point where moderate republicans are disowning them and between Trump's weekly chaos and this mass shooting, this is going to drive more and more people to vote for the Democrats.

I think there needs to be a full blown federal assault rifle ban. Enough is enough. You don't need an assault rifle for home defense, a handgun or shotgun are more than adequate.
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Post#671 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:23 pm

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13th Man wrote:I'm willing to bet that I come in close contact with more people of various races than anyone here on a daily basis. I just got back from teaching maybe 40 different people and spend an extra half hour conversing with them individually afterwards. This is a daily thing for me and I love connecting with people in real life. I'm just glad that I don't teach politics or else I'd have to take lessons from Jordan Peterson on how to deal with the over-sensitive people of today's generation.

It's hilarious to be accused of being a racist on a message board when you guys sit in your little bubble and hate on everybody that does not share the same view.


You would lose that bet.

And just because you interact with different kinds of people daily doesn't really mean anything, that's like saying a white person who has sex with a black person is incapable of being racist.

I'm not calling you a racist...but you've expressed support for known racists and say that you agree with the things that they say...so it's kind of difficult not to think that you are when you've cast this light onto yourself.


You see, the difference between the way I see racism and the way you guys see it is that I have become more tolerant and learned to deal with racism differently. I experience it too, big time and acknowledge that it exists. The only difference is that instead of responding with hate, I respond by helping and doing what I can do to break these tensions. You do that by helping people and at the end, we all come together when they realize that you're there to help no matter what race.

As a result, many of the people that have brushed me off initially end up trusting and embracing me after they realize my true intentions. Ironically, I get a lot of brushback from people of my own kind because I am going against the grain of what we are supposed to be and they can't accept that, how ironic. I am lucky to be in a position where I can do this, I shouldn't say lucky because I've worked my ass off to get into this position. I should say that I am grateful to be in this position of influence.

The reason why I despise the hardcore left has little to do with race, it has to do with accountability and responsiblity and I've been singing this same tune for a long time. You are in full control of your life, if **** doesn't go your way rather than blaming society or blaming others, do something yourself to make your life and society better. I'm not saying that you can't voice your opinion, that is your right to do so, but it's the losers that I see spending 90% of their energy whining and complaining while they do nothing themselves to make their own lives better. It's like they don't respect the democratic process and cannot accept a loss *cough* Hillary Clinton *cough*. Yes, you have a right to peacefully protest but don't go ANTIFA on people. Academic institutions should not be pushing one political agenda on their students either. That actually pisses me off more than anything, when the media and higher learning instructions try to manipulate the thoughts and stances of the people, especially the young kids who are just opening up to intellectual discourse. I spent a large chunk of my life learning in the States and it wasn't like this back then, not in my field anyway. Something has changed along the way where people have become over-sensitized and you can't have anything that remotely offends a certain type of people. Just wait until these kids get into the real world and see how much competition and cutthroat it is, where they don't have safe spaces to crawl to.

If you guys haven't noticed, I engaged in this politics thread mainly to express my outrage with the Sir Wilfred Laurier University / Lindsay Shepherd / Jordan Peterson fiasco. This had to do with censorship in higher education and professors deliberately trying to push their political narratives onto vulnerable "free-thinking" students.

Then I made a big stink about the Jordan Peterson / Cathie Newman interview where it was more about mindset of the left/media/feminist and the dishonest tactics that they try to use against a brilliant professor and clinical psychologist who would have none of that. Jordan Peterson is a hero of mine because he continuously exposes the flaws of the leftist mindset.

So to have to repeatedly defend myself as not being a racist is laughable, because there are a myriad of other reasons why I am against the left to which none have anything to with race.


You can tolerate racism if you want. As a black man in America, I cannot afford to sit here and play this game of "outreach" and "tolerate" racism, especially in today's age where we're seeing people openly in support of Nazism and speaking about ethnically cleansing our country. This stuff isn't a joke, far right extremism is a national security threat and an existential one for people of color in the United States. You can tolerate racists all you want up there in Canada. Down here that's not happening.

Also, I'm not sure why you're going on a rant about the hardcore left? I'm not some far left hippie liberal. I'm not necessarily a fan of the Democratic Party either, but they're more moderate and sensible than the GOP who at this point want to literally kill people with their cut throat policies on behalf of the 1%. So...I would save that kind of rhetoric for someone else.

Honestly, you sound very bitter and angry that the world is changing to a place where the things that you are personally "tolerant" of are not going to be tolerated anymore, and I'm all for it. You want to abuse women? That will cost you. Want to be racist? That will cost you. Want to bigoted towards gay and trangender people? That will cost you. What I see is younger people, especially women, lgbters, minorities, are tired of what you are "tolerant" of and are pushing back against it.

Also, no one said you're racist because you're against "the left". You have been called racist because you voice support for outright racists, have admitted that you agree with their views, and when asked you avoided to denounce racist ideology in general. Now that you admit that you are "tolerant" of racism, it kind of makes sense.
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Post#672 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:34 pm

13th Man wrote:rump's MAGA does not represent Make White People Great Again, hence why the Black unemployment rate has been its lowest it's been in 17 years.


What? Trump literally has nothing to do with this. That is the end result of 8 years of Barack Obama's Presidency which was spent resuscitating the economy after George W. Bush drove everything off of a cliff by 2008.

This idea that the black unemployment rate dropped dramatically after a year of Donald Trump's disastrous presidency is utter lunacy and has no basis in reality.
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Post#673 » by 13th Man » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:08 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:You have been called racist because you voice support for outright racists, have admitted that you agree with their views, and when asked you avoided to denounce racist ideology in general. Now that you admit that you are "tolerant" of racism, it kind of makes sense.


Nonsense. Not everything is about race, I think you make it way too huge of a deal. Maybe in your world but not mine. I tolerate racism differently than you do. Rather than getting angry at people that give me bad vibes, I show them love and we end up coming together at the end. Because I side with people that oppose the left, that automatically makes me a racist? I guess this makes half of your country racists including many Black Americans who voted Republican.

You just don't get that one's political stance does not have to be related to how they feel about race relations and can have more to do with other important issues on the table including combatting the pussified behavior of the left. My views are to protect my son from growing up as a pussy, he's going to be a real man that respects my country's democratic process and take full responsibility for his actions.

If you can't see past black and white then I don't know what to tell you. I've already justified my logic which I didn't even need to go into that level of depth.

I don't need to denounce ****. I don't trust how the MSM continuously put a spin on things, especially CNN and will not get sucked into their dishonest reporting. Like I said, if you want the truth go ask Sarah Sanders (I believe that they never acknowledged him using that term). I don't work for Trump and I don't need to defend heresay.

I'll be taking a hiatus from this board, because clearly I cannot discuss anything political without it turning into a race issue and being labeled as a racist. It's pretty sad that you guys live with this state of mind.

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Post#674 » by shakendfries » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:51 pm

13th Man wrote:AndySF, thanks for sharing your story. Racism definitely exists and is more prominent in the U.S. than it is in Canada (from my experience) but it doesn't have to be. Trump's MAGA does not represent Make White People Great Again, hence why the Black unemployment rate has been its lowest it's been in 17 years. It's a shame that everything has to boil down to race when there are much more important issues at stake to fix.

Laura Ingram of Fox news call out Lebron and Durant, telling them to "Shut Up and Dribble", as she calls out other White celebrities. She had a best selling book called, "Shut up and Sing", so this was kind of her patented tag line. Of course the left blew up over this as they usually do and make it out to be about race.

Leftist celebrities are clueless imo. They have a right to spew their nonsense but I would probably say the same thing them. Shut up and act, shut and play, shut up and dribble. You are good at one thing, that doesn't make you an expert on political affairs so just shut up and do what you do. Just as I would say the same to Jimmy Kimmel, shut up about politics and go back to telling funny jokes and interviews. People tune into you guys for your talent in that one area, leave the politics aside. I don't discuss politics at my workplace, they shouldn't either.



13th man, the sentiment you are expressing in this post, "shutup and stick to sports" is racist.
The network you support only uses this message to refer to black individuals who have an opinion on politics that isn't theirs.
You claim leftist celebrities are clueless, but you voted for a rightist celebrity to become president.
You claim athletes shouldn't have an opinion on politics, and yet you are not a poltician and aren't qualified to express an opinion of your own.
As established in earlier posts, you aren't even qualified to evaluate what is an honest source of news.
You and your sentiment is so clearly racist, that the host had to come out and deny being racist herself.
You support racist sentiments, you support racist people, and you are a racist.

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Post#675 » by 13th Man » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:08 pm

The difference is that I express my political views on my own time, not on a platform where I get paid. I don't talk politics at work at all because it's not appropriate. I don't discuss politics when I teach either, that is not what I'm paid to do nor do the people want to hear it.

If I watch Jimmy Kimmel, I do it for the comedy aspect. If I watch Lebron, I do it for the sports entertainment aspect. I've already quit watching football because I don't tune into NFL Sunday to hear leftist rants. Now I have to bear with Ernie Johnson going full ret@rd and giving his emotional spiel during NBA weekend? Please...

The truth is that the left are a bunch of crybaby losers and whiners. The right have accepted Obama winning the election and quietly let him do his thing for 8 years. The left have been incessantly crying since the election and there is never one moment where they have sat back to let Trump do his job.

I've got nothing more to say on this matter. Peace out.
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Post#676 » by shakendfries » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:11 pm

13th Man wrote:The difference is that I express my political views on my own time, not on a platform where I get paid. I don't talk politics at work at all because it's not appropriate. I don't discuss politics when I teach either, that is not what I'm paid to do nor do the people want to hear it.

If I watch Jimmy Kimmel, I do it for the comedy aspect. If I watch Lebron, I do it for the sports entertainment aspect. I've already quit watching football because I don't tune into NFL Sunday to hear leftist rants. Now I have to bear with Ernie Johnson going full ret@rd and giving his emotional spiel during NBA weekend? Please... The truth is that the left are a bunch of crybaby losers and whiners. The right have accepted Obama winning the election and quietly let him do his thing for 8 years. The left have been constantly crying since the election and there is never one moment where they have sat back to let Trump do his job.

I've got nothing more to say on this matter. Peace out.


when you watched the apprentice, I'm sure president of the united states was your first thought.
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Post#677 » by AndySF » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:41 pm

13th Man wrote:AndySF, thanks for sharing your story. Racism definitely exists and is more prominent in the U.S. than it is in Canada (from my experience) but it doesn't have to be. Trump's MAGA does not represent Make White People Great Again, hence why the Black unemployment rate has been its lowest it's been in 17 years. It's a shame that everything has to boil down to race when there are much more important issues at stake to fix.

Laura Ingram of Fox news call out Lebron and Durant, telling them to "Shut Up and Dribble", as she calls out other White celebrities. She had a best selling book called, "Shut up and Sing", so this was kind of her patented tag line. Of course the left blew up over this as they usually do and make it out to be about race.

Leftist celebrities are clueless imo. They have a right to spew their nonsense but I would probably say the same thing them. Shut up and act, shut and play, shut up and dribble. You are good at one thing, that doesn't make you an expert on political affairs so just shut up and do what you do. Just as I would say the same to Jimmy Kimmel, shut up about politics and go back to telling funny jokes and interviews. People tune into you guys for your talent in that one area, leave the politics aside. I don't discuss politics at my workplace, they shouldn't either.


It is intellectually dishonest to credit Trump with the economy or the unemployment rate. It is also intellectually dishonest to sell us Fox News when you're bashing CNN and MSNBC. They are all just a bunch of figurehead talking so they could fatten their own pocket. None of those so-called news media are actually reporting much news, it's more like a celebrity show, which you don't think should talk politics. I have not watched any of those news channels for a while now. As long as people like you continue to believe what they say there's no fix for this country. People in this country buying this BS wholesale on either side is the reason we're in this mess to begin with. Lack of critical thinking did us in.

I am sorry that they domesticate you into tolerating racism. Regardless of which side is political Spectrum you're in, there's no place for racism in this country. I don't like the organization BLM, but that doesn't stop me from understanding and agreeing that black life actually matter. Just because I believe all lives matter doesn't preclude me from agreeing that black life matters. The fact that you rather beating up on a less than perfect messenger instead of seen the actual message also makes you intellectually dishonest. The very Trump supporter that you are align with are the same people that are whining and crying about illegal immigrant, immigrant and job moving over sea. Where is your outrage about this whining and crying? I am actually in the minority that don't mind a Trump presidency. Let people suffer for their own decision. They elected this mess they can suffer in it. It may even wake them up some day.
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Post#678 » by AndySF » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:43 pm

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AndySF wrote:I once got cuffed years ago by just parking on the side of the road in bright daylight with my 3 years old daughter in the car crying (in San Francisco no less) because of the way I dress and the car I drove ( a flagship Jaguar). Some old white lady don't think that can possibly be my car because I don't look the part and call the cops :banghead:

Dang, that must have been ages ago. You fought in Vietnam or something?

Why should anyone feel sorry for American who were born and raise here who don't bother to better themselves and make a better future for themselves. The world is moving forward, move with it or get left behind. Personal accountability, isn't that what the right always preach?

Lots of votes and money.


It was 2007. Yah, we are not as far along as we had hoped.
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Post#679 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:26 pm

13th Man wrote:The difference is that I express my political views on my own time, not on a platform where I get paid. I don't talk politics at work at all because it's not appropriate. I don't discuss politics when I teach either, that is not what I'm paid to do nor do the people want to hear it.

If I watch Jimmy Kimmel, I do it for the comedy aspect. If I watch Lebron, I do it for the sports entertainment aspect. I've already quit watching football because I don't tune into NFL Sunday to hear leftist rants. Now I have to bear with Ernie Johnson going full ret@rd and giving his emotional spiel during NBA weekend? Please...

The truth is that the left are a bunch of crybaby losers and whiners. The right have accepted Obama winning the election and quietly let him do his thing for 8 years. The left have been incessantly crying since the election and there is never one moment where they have sat back to let Trump do his job.

I've got nothing more to say on this matter. Peace out.


It's funny to see someone calling "The left" whiners and criers while they are whining and crying about entertainers making them feel uncomfortable over his trash political views.
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Post#680 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:50 pm

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