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Political Roundtable Part XVIII

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1401 » by dckingsfan » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:05 am

cammac wrote:The Republicans definitely need more women in congress but this is the type they recruit.
A leading contender for a Houston-area congressional seat is offering no regrets for putting out a campaign mailer and television ads showing her carrying an assault-style weapon just days after the horrific killings in Parkland, Florida.

In the mailers, there are two pictures of Wall holding weapons on the front and back, with a statement saying: "Kathaleen Wall stands with Donald Trump: We must be vigilant to protect gun rights."

The mailer, which was produced days before the Parkland shooting, goes on to state: "Every day we are up against those who would take away our freedoms, restrict our liberties, and even those who want to abolish the Second Amendment."


Others have supported her, and Wall's campaign clearly is not backing down and only reiterating her support for gun rights.

"First we are incredibly saddened at the scenes in Parkland, Florida," said Matt Langston, a spokesman for Wall's campaign.

"What happened there on Wednesday is both a tragedy and a frustrating reminder that Americans must unite to improve mental health outcomes, recognize and act on warning signs for those in difficulty, and engage in productive debate on how to put heinous events like this to an end," he said.

"For Kathaleen's part, she's been a responsible gun owner for many decades and will remain a strong advocate for Americans Second Amendment Rights under the Constitution."


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/19/1742757/-GOP-Candidate-Totes-Assault-Style-Weapon-In-Campaign-Mailer-Days-After-Parkland-Has-No-Regrets

What is weird about her campaign... she wants to cut federal spending but she wants to build the wall. She wants to defend the second amendment but she is anti-abortion :noway:

https://www.kathaleenwall.com/issues
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1402 » by Pointgod » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:59 am

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The Dem takeover of the House just became a little easier


This is great news that can be used in other gerrymandered states. I never fully understood the point of gerrymandering anyway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1403 » by FAH1223 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:05 am

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nate33 wrote:There's a lot more to it than this. Obama kept bombing Assad forces who were killing ISIS. Trump put a stop to that.

NATE wow yes bombing Assad Forces who were yes bombing some ISIS but similar ANYONE who opposed his LUNATIC RULE.................including thousands of innocent civilians.
Really scummy but expect that from you.

Of course it's scummy. All of the wars in the Middle East amount to a choice between the lesser of two evils. The one time we tried to impose our own regime, in Iraq, ended in disaster that costed us a trillion dollars. Best to back whichever brutal dictator is going to maintain some level of peace and order and then get out as fast as possible.

The grim fact is that life in Syria under Assad is better than the alternatives.


Though recently, Trump has bombed pro-Assad forces twice as they said they were going after SDF positions where US troops are present east of the Euphrates.

The US has said its staying in Syria indefinitely but it has no UN mandate or Congressional Authorization for it and of course no invitation from Damascus that Moscow/Tehran have. The Turks, who are in Syria illegally too, are also pissed because the SDF is mainly YPG Kurds led and they are considered part of the PKK to Ankara. The Turks are pissed with the US joining the Kurdish groups and want them out of northern Syria too.

And the Israelis got an F-16 shot down by Syrian air defense cause it seems Assad has had it with the Israelis violating the air space. The Russians also must have green lit that.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1404 » by FAH1223 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:16 am

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lobbying is a huge issue but it isn't illegal. People need to stop conflating the two subjects. Putting bias aside, imagine if Iran was running a spy operation on US soil with the intent to help elect President Hillary Clinton. I'm guessing nobody would be calling this a nothing burger.

Israel does this constantly. How much do they fund Twitter bots and protests on U.S. soil?


Lobbying isn't illegal. But we are talking about foreign interference in the political process.

We should talk about the SVR doing intelligence operations in the USA during elections. And as a country figure out how to stop that.

Our CIA has done it around the world and to great detriments to many people.

The Israelis, as nate points out, have the biggest influence on our lawmakers. Put that with the defense contractors and our bloated military budget and its a recipe for more terrible foreign policy. Now the Saudis/UAEs are making a run at it too.

If one thing comes out of the Mueller investigation it will be that DC will be rocked with many Americans having to register under FARA as a foreign agent. You can lobby but you gotta be registered and there are so many people who aren't.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1405 » by stilldropin20 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:33 am

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Post#1406 » by stilldropin20 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:40 am

so sad. a tragedy used to prey upon emotions with outright lies.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1407 » by cammac » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:49 am

Have to wonder how safe Shep Smiths job is at FOX after another attack on Trump?
“The president spent the weekend defending himself, misrepresenting the truth and attacking others from his phone in Florida,” Smith said “Shepard Smith Reporting."

Smith noted that Trump attacked the Department of Justice, the FBI, national security adviser H.R. McMaster, as well as Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), former President Obama and Oprah Winfrey.


http://thehill.com/homenews/media/374574-shep-smith-goes-after-trump-for-not-condemning-russia-in-tweetstorm
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1408 » by stilldropin20 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:35 am

cammac wrote:Have to wonder how safe Shep Smiths job is at FOX after another attack on Trump?
“The president spent the weekend defending himself, misrepresenting the truth and attacking others from his phone in Florida,” Smith said “Shepard Smith Reporting."

Smith noted that Trump attacked the Department of Justice, the FBI, national security adviser H.R. McMaster, as well as Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), former President Obama and Oprah Winfrey.


http://thehill.com/homenews/media/374574-shep-smith-goes-after-trump-for-not-condemning-russia-in-tweetstorm


shep has been anti trump from the primaries. unlike CNN and MSNBC, FOX brings balance to their viewers.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1409 » by cammac » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:39 am

stilldropin20 wrote:
cammac wrote:Have to wonder how safe Shep Smiths job is at FOX after another attack on Trump?
“The president spent the weekend defending himself, misrepresenting the truth and attacking others from his phone in Florida,” Smith said “Shepard Smith Reporting."

Smith noted that Trump attacked the Department of Justice, the FBI, national security adviser H.R. McMaster, as well as Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), former President Obama and Oprah Winfrey.


http://thehill.com/homenews/media/374574-shep-smith-goes-after-trump-for-not-condemning-russia-in-tweetstorm


shep has been anti trump from the primaries. unlike CNN and MSNBC, FOX brings balance to their viewers.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Shep Smith usually tows the FOX line but goes rogue now and then!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1410 » by stilldropin20 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:45 am

wake da fuq up, folks
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1411 » by stilldropin20 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:49 am

cammac wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
cammac wrote:Have to wonder how safe Shep Smiths job is at FOX after another attack on Trump?


http://thehill.com/homenews/media/374574-shep-smith-goes-after-trump-for-not-condemning-russia-in-tweetstorm


shep has been anti trump from the primaries. unlike CNN and MSNBC, FOX brings balance to their viewers.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Shep Smith usually tows the FOX line but goes rogue now and then!
But delude yourself!
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not when it comes to trump. at all. but seriously. how old are you?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1412 » by cammac » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:10 am

stilldropin20 wrote:wake da fuq up, folks
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1413 » by cammac » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:11 am

stilldropin20 wrote:wake da fuq up, folks
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1414 » by stilldropin20 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:55 am

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stilldropin20 wrote:wake da fuq up, folks
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/technology/facebook-executive-russia-tweets-fact-check.html


that NYT article is pretty weak sauce rebuttal to the president of facebook advertising. let me say that again. the president of facebook advertising. So on one hand we have one of the few people on the planet that really knows these things. And his company has too much too lose to lie about it. and on the other hand you have a barely known journalist just being petty and towing the liberal line of attacking anything that doesn't serve the liberal narrative. Facebook gains nothing from being partisan.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1415 » by nate33 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:59 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1416 » by TGW » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:04 pm

This coverage of Russiagate really is a dog-and-pony show.

So Rosenstein decided it was a good idea to "indict" 13 twitter trolls for starting social media accounts and stiring up discord (on both sides btw).

So all it takes to destroy the integrity of our elections is to start some fake facebook and twitter accounts? :laugh:

MSNBC and CNN is jerking off to this news like it's some sort of smoking gun. And now the centrists are using this non-news to attack Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein as though they had something to do with this. PATHETIC. This has officially turned into McCarthyism 2.0.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1417 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:05 pm

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How about enacting the sanctions that were passed overwhelming as retaliation for starters? For someone who talks so tough on all things, Trump has nothing bad to say about Dictator Putin.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1418 » by cammac » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:00 pm

Hopefully Mike Pence who has been somewhat of a Teflon man in the Administration as he has bumbled on in his best bobble head imitation. The buck is starting to identify him as the creator of the incompetent, unacceptable security risk hires.

Mike Pence:
“I'm pleased to report that the Presidential Transition Appointment Team has conducted more than 170 interviews prior to the Election. More than 200 people since that Election have sat down with, what are called our Tiger Teams -- for full vetting and full review.”


[Ex-Congressman John Sweeney] ran President-elect Donald Trump's New York state presidential campaign and organized a raucous rally in April that packed 15,000 people into the Times Union Center. He's been tapped as a high-level member of Trump's presidential transition team, known as the "Tiger Team."

Fueled by coffee and chicken salad sandwiches from the Trump Tower's cafe, Sweeney and three other high-powered Trump partisans have completed more than 300 interviews thus far. They're conducting 30- to 60-minute interviews of applicants for jobs including senior national security and intelligence positions, ambassadors, undersecretaries and top-ranking officials in nearly every federal agency. They conduct interviews by phone or in person and rank finalists 1 through 5. The final hiring is done by senior Trump aides following background checks.

"The last two weeks we did a lot of work on State Department and United Nations positions and the pool of applicants is impressive beyond belief," Sweeney said. "We did 15 phone interviews with ambassadors around the world yesterday, including six current ambassadors looking for extensions."

Sweeney is conducting interviews alongside three transition team members, lawyers all: Martin Silverstein, U.S. ambassador to Uruguay under President George W. Bush; Ira Greenstein, president of Genie Energy Ltd.; and financier Anthony Scaramucci, founder and co-managing partner of the hedge fund SkyBridge Capital.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/19/1742993/-So-Pence-s-Tiger-Teams-really-DID-the-Vetting-of-White-House-Senior-Staff-Who-Knew
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1419 » by I_Like_Dirt » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:04 pm

dckingsfan wrote:It is just harder to realize that Trump isn't the culprit since he is such an a$$w!pe. It is our baseline budgeting and unwillingness to go after the cost drivers in our social services programs.


Trump isn't the culprit but he's a culprit. He's absolutely making the situation worse and not better by a lot.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1420 » by dckingsfan » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:12 pm

nate33 wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:
nate33 wrote:I am honestly not at all concerned with foreign agents buying ads and utilizing bots on Twitter and Facebook. We live in a free society with open speech. In general, the way to counter speech you don't like isn't to silence it with jackbooted government thugs, it's to prove it wrong with your own superior ideas. People were deluged with thousand of political adds from both parties and from hundreds of special interest groups. I hardly think a handful more add from Russians swayed anybody. And I think any efforts to stop that kind of speech in the future is likely to be corrupted and used against legitimate special interests groups in the future.

If the Russians hacked the DNC server and leaked that information, then that is certainly a more plausible argument that they affected the election. Of course, it must be noted that they only affected the election by bringing more information to the voter.

I've been bombarding you with ideas superior to yours since about 2006. Has it worked? I can't tell.

You've bombarded me with pithy comments like this. But not better ideas. Ending the criminal justice system and doing everything via civil courts? Really?

One thing we know - the war on drugs and the war on crime were/are a disaster. They are only enablers for politicians to get elected. So, we need a better idea than what we have. At this point I would rather go with civil courts.

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