2018 NBA Draft Thread

[Tfence92]

I've been very skeptical of Ainge being much of a GM, but I don't know how you can look at what they have done and not be impressed.

They gave created a great roster, but I don't see how everyone makes Ainge out to be a god.

He fleeced the **** out of Brooklyn like a decade ago, and it still reaping those benefits.
He signed Horford, he hit on back to back top 3 picks, he signed Hayward, and then he made a great trade for Kyrie. What he has accomplished is very nice, but it's not like this guy is making shrewd under the radar moves that turn out great, he's doing what a GM should... signing big names and hitting on very high draft picks.

I don't know everything you just wrote makes him sound a god of a GM.

Because of the trade, Billy King is arguably referred to as the worst GM in NBA history.

And sure, using a storied history such as Boston to sign big name free agents (debatable was to if Horford was even worth the max) takes a lot of work.

Again, I'm not saying he's a **** GM, but when you have a top 2/3 pick, you're SUPPOSED to pick good players, no?

[Tfence92]

Hinkie didn't draft Ben Simmons. He drafted Embiid, Saric, and Richaun Holmes (guys he drafted that are still on the team). I don't really understand how whiffing on late-1st's is somehow worse than whiffing on lottery picks though (Okafor, Noel, MCW). Cuz I guess that's the only reality where one could view Ainge as just some run-of-the-mill GM doing ordinary things, and view Sam Hinkie as this "ermagerd genius" playing 3D chess.

I wouldn't consider MCW a whiff. That guy got roty and was turned into the Lakers pick. In terms of asset management he was decent. Sure he didn't draft that well, but Boston also drafted Yabusele, Zizic (on both the jury is still out but the first outlook isn't that good), Jackson, Bentil (both cut) in 2016, Hunter, Mickey and Thornton in 2015 and Smart and Young in 2014, Nogueira in 2013, Sullinger, Melo and Joseph in 2012 and you could go on. Boston doesn't exactly have a great track record either.

If you want to go back further, he picked Marcus Smart 6th (inb4 the Smart lovers here attack), also took James Young that year. Took JuJuan Johnson the year before. Year before that he drafted Fab Melo lol.

We got away from the entire point about the draft here because of poor word choice by me.
I wasn't trying to say that you shouldn't count his drafting at all, I was just trying to say that if you compare Boston and Philly drafts they are close.

[Tfence92]

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[IrishRainbow]

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[Tfence92]

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I was going to tag my post with something basketball wise similar to Highheat19 but I'm noy creative enough.

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[Gianstoppable]

They gave created a great roster, but I don't see how everyone makes Ainge out to be a god.

He fleeced the **** out of Brooklyn like a decade ago, and it still reaping those benefits.
He signed Horford, he hit on back to back top 3 picks, he signed Hayward, and then he made a great trade for Kyrie. What he has accomplished is very nice, but it's not like this guy is making shrewd under the radar moves that turn out great, he's doing what a GM should... signing big names and hitting on very high draft picks.

I don't know everything you just wrote makes him sound a god of a GM.

Because of the trade, Billy King is arguably referred to as the worst GM in NBA history.

And sure, using a storied history such as Boston to sign big name free agents (debatable was to if Horford was even worth the max) takes a lot of work.

Again, I'm not saying he's a **** GM, but when you have a top 2/3 pick, you're SUPPOSED to pick good players, no?

Id bet there's more/the same players chosen #2 or 3 that have been busts than players that have turned into great players

[LuessiT]

Hinkie didn't draft Ben Simmons. He drafted Embiid, Saric, and Richaun Holmes (guys he drafted that are still on the team). I don't really understand how whiffing on late-1st's is somehow worse than whiffing on lottery picks though (Okafor, Noel, MCW). Cuz I guess that's the only reality where one could view Ainge as just some run-of-the-mill GM doing ordinary things, and view Sam Hinkie as this "ermagerd genius" playing 3D chess.

I wouldn't consider MCW a whiff. That guy got roty and was turned into the Lakers pick. In terms of asset management he was decent. Sure he didn't draft that well, but Boston also drafted Yabusele, Zizic (on both the jury is still out but the first outlook isn't that good), Jackson, Bentil (both cut) in 2016, Hunter, Mickey and Thornton in 2015 and Smart and Young in 2014, Nogueira in 2013, Sullinger, Melo and Joseph in 2012 and you could go on. Boston doesn't exactly have a great track record either.

If you want to go back further, he picked Marcus Smart 6th (inb4 the Smart lovers here attack), also took James Young that year. Took JuJuan Johnson the year before. Year before that he drafted Fab Melo lol.

We got away from the entire point about the draft here because of poor word choice by me.
I wasn't trying to say that you shouldn't count his drafting at all, I was just trying to say that if you compare Boston and Philly drafts they are close.

I mean I mentioned those. But something additional: He tried to trade up for Winslow and supposedly offered 4 FRP (including one of the Nets picks) to Charlotte and Miami. Ainge is an overall good, possibly great GM, but let's not pretend like he does everything right. He's had his fair share of misses, as does anyone.

[Gianstoppable]

So they're going as far as Boston has in the past 7 years? Lol

Maybe I'm missing something but didn't Boston make it to the Eastern Conference finals last year?

If you win 2 series, you go to the conference finals, no?

Yes, but they did it last year. Seems like a weird time to pick apart Ainges moves, IMO.

[Tfence92]

I don't know everything you just wrote makes him sound a god of a GM.

Because of the trade, Billy King is arguably referred to as the worst GM in NBA history.

And sure, using a storied history such as Boston to sign big name free agents (debatable was to if Horford was even worth the max) takes a lot of work.

Again, I'm not saying he's a **** GM, but when you have a top 2/3 pick, you're SUPPOSED to pick good players, no?

Id bet there's more/the same players chosen #2 or 3 that have been busts than players that have turned into great players

Probably, because there's only a handful of great players.

I'm speaking more to the idea of what a good GM is. No one cares that he drafted JuJuan Johnson, Fab Melo or JR Giddens at the end of the first because those picks are a crapshoot. When you make good picks, you are rewarded at a far less rate than you are lambasted when you make a bad pick.

[Tfence92]

Maybe I'm missing something but didn't Boston make it to the Eastern Conference finals last year?

If you win 2 series, you go to the conference finals, no?

Yes, but they did it last year. Seems like a weird time to pick apart Ainges moves, IMO.

Lemme borrow your time machine and I'll tell you all about them two years ago.

[Gianstoppable]

Ajdin Penava would be fun. I see nothing about him on any draft boards whatsoever, but he plays for Marshall (I know, weak conference but Whiteside played there) and in 29 mins per game averaging 16.5 ppg and added a three ball this year, not a huge sample but 27/73 37% 8.8 rebounds and 4.2 blocks (leads NCAA) and hes 6'9. He's probably a bit of a project, needs to add muscle but he would be a good guy to take a look at, seems like he will go undrafted.

Jaylen Adams is another guy I'd look at but he will likely be a 2nd rounder. (Yes, I know we will have to buy a 2nd) Hitting 49% from three on 126 attempts, hit 10 of 13 a couple weeks ago.

Favorite named prospect I've run across so far is Fletcher MaGee

[Fotis St]

Brandon McCoy ... on my radar ...

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[emunney]

Melton is going to enter the draft and remains at or near the top of my list. Great foundation to build on, reminds me of a bigger Lowry.

[bizarro]

Melton is going to enter the draft and remains at or near the top of my list. Great foundation to build on, reminds me of a bigger Lowry.

Yeah, I agree w u. The good thing is, I guess, he's been mocked to us at our current spot for a few weeks.

EDIT: Wait, do you mean Shake Milton or De'Anthony Melton?

[emunney]

De'Anthony Melton.

[Ruzious]

Brandon McCoy ... on my radar ...

A dozen years ago, he'd be a lotto pick - great size and great stats. Big centers that aren't great athletes aren't graded as highly as they used to be.

My prime underrated player right now is Melvin Frazier of Tulane - more for his defensive potential than offense. Absurd length for a guard. He has some offensive ability but needs to play with more consistency. And Jontay Porter (Mike's bro) - he's still raw, but he's got a lot of potential in all phases of the game and isn't done growing. I think both of them work their way up to late 1st round. Watch San Antonio get one of them, Houston the other.

[M-C-G]

Brandon McCoy ... on my radar ...

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Just based on that, I am not too impressed...like a smaller Roy Hibbert, but not the good version and just doesn't get any lift. I think he may really struggle against NBA size and athleticism, seemed about as below the rim center as Moose but not much of the skill.

[AussieBuck]

Draft Giannis' younger brother, dude looks like a great centre prospect

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[Ruzious]

Draft Giannis' younger brother, dude looks like a great centre prospect

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It'd be a huge mistake for him to go pro. He's 10 times farther away than Giannis was when he was drafted. But if he works as hard as his brother, he could make himself into a prospect next year. There's some talent there, but he's as raw as raw can be.

[Tfence92]

Draft Giannis' younger brother, dude looks like a great centre prospect

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It'd be a huge mistake for him to go pro. He's 10 times farther away than Giannis was when he was drafted. But if he works as hard as his brother, he could make himself into a prospect next year. There's some talent there, but he's as raw as raw can be.

I don't see him not being a 4 (technically 5) year collegiate athlete.