2018 Draft Thread #6

[Leslie Forman]

I don't think its a matter of fit. If he was as good as he was earlier in the year, I'd be happy to take him no matter what position he played.

Or maybe that's how you can buy low after an unsuccessful tank job on a 19-year-old kid who's still having the greatest freshman year by any point guard in NCAA history?

Yeah but he's trending down in a big way. I doubt his numbers still look as good by the end of the year unless he has a sudden reversal.

There's only a few games left, his numbers aren't going down much unless he actively sabotages himself.

If he plays a bunch more games it'll be because they've been winning in the Big 12 tournament and if that happens that'll likely be because he's putting up huge numbers.

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[DuckIII]

For Trae: 3/13, 1/5. He is going to fall out of the top 10 pretty soon.

That kid needs to turn it back on so some foolish team takes him in front of us or trades up to us to draft him.

Don’t blow it now Trae!

[nomorezorro]

there's not gonna be any reason for mpj to come back if mizzou keeps finishing games like dogs***

[bearadonisdna]

Posting here because its draft related, i was looking at drafts prior to the one and done and the drafts looked stronger than the one and done era .

The drafts in the one and done era are kinda scary. Mostly bad players and non nba-ers outside of the top ten.Even the top fives are kinda wtf?

Theres no absolute reason to say the one and done rule has hurt the draft. In theory having players develop more before they become pro is good for the league.
But maybe the one and dones are taking college spots from guys who really want it.
Lets say bagleys gets drafted out of highschool so instead bamba gets recruited to duke and gets development from coach k. He could be a completely different player in a different draft than bagley.

Its a landscape where american kids are going overseas to play professionally. (BBB).
Its only so long i feel where the nba is going to have 3rd dibs on professional players.
1st dibs-Europe
2nd dibs-American pro basketball (big-3, BBB league, Globetrotters,etc)
3rd dibs-NBA

[NADROJ]

I had the the displeasure of viewing most of the Missouri-OleMiss game; Jontay Porter is not an NBA player.

I'm happy to own it if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

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[TheHrvReport]

We'd be very fortunate to grab Knox, either Bridges, or L. Walker with that Pelicans pick

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[ArizonaBullsFan]

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I've never understood why videos like this show dudes making a FT.

How the hell is that a highlight?

[Chi town]

JJJ Knox draft please.

Tank to 4. Pels cough up 12.

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I don't see a scenario where Knox falls out of the top 10. He's a gifted scorer at the perfect height and length.

I really hope the Bulls get at least one of Knox, Bridges x2. Even if it means taking one with a 7-8th pick.

[ArizonaBullsFan]

I don't see a scenario where Knox falls out of the top 10. He's a gifted scorer at the perfect height and length.

I really hope the Bulls get at least one of Knox, Bridges x2. Even if it means taking one with a 7-8th pick.

It's looking close right now, in their latest mock drafts:

SI has him at #9

NBADraft.net #10

Sporting News #11

ESPN #12

[the ultimates]

Posting here because its draft related, i was looking at drafts prior to the one and done and the drafts looked stronger than the one and done era .

The drafts in the one and done era are kinda scary. Mostly bad players and non nba-ers outside of the top ten.Even the top fives are kinda wtf?

Theres no absolute reason to say the one and done rule has hurt the draft. In theory having players develop more before they become pro is good for the league.
But maybe the one and dones are taking college spots from guys who really want it.
Lets say bagleys gets drafted out of highschool so instead bamba gets recruited to duke and gets development from coach k. He could be a completely different player in a different draft than bagley.

Its a landscape where american kids are going overseas to play professionally. (BBB).
Its only so long i feel where the nba is going to have 3rd dibs on professional players.
1st dibs-Europe
2nd dibs-American pro basketball (big-3, BBB league, Globetrotters,etc)
3rd dibs-NBA

The American kids will continue to go to college for one season because it offers them the quickest chance to the biggest payday which is the NBA. That's not to mention the endorsement money that comes from the exposure of playing at a big name school and playing well. Look at Derrick do you think if he went the Brandon Jennings route and played oversea's Addidas would have given him that huge endorsement contract? Not a chance. Rose was a big name recruit at a big name school with a big name coach, who played well in the tournament. Jennings meanwhile was getting paid but putting up 6pts a game playing on average 18 minutes.

[Thebullsgod1993]

JJJ Knox draft please.

Tank to 4. Pels cough up 12.

I really want that too JJJ is going to be a stud Knox would be a steal w/ the pels pick and would be a very promising project going forward.

[Dan Z]

What do you think of Mitchell Robinson? http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20743631/five-star-recruit-mitchell-robinson-leaves-western-kentucky-hilltoppers-focus-nba-draft

[GimmeDat]

Maybe Knox doesn't fall to us, but if he doesn't, that means someone else will. Between 8-13, you would expect Carter, Knox, Sexton, Bridges and Bridges to be the guys picked in some order. That means 2 will be available at 12, 1 available at 13. There's always the off chance that someone reaches on someone like Walker, Williams, etc. as well.

12-13 is a great range. 14 or later and your hoping for a reach to get one of the aforementioned guys fall to you. But 12-13 is also definitely a 'beggars can't be choosers' range. We'll just take whoever is available. We still need to hope the Pels fall considerably.

The way our own pick is going, even if we successfully tank, I see a top 4 at this stage - Doncic, Bamba, Ayton, JJJ, in whatever order. I think Porter, Young, Bagley will be the 5-7 guys who we'll be looking at most likely. It's not ideal, the top 4 are much better when it comes to both fit and prospect level.

[WindyCityBorn]

Hypothetical situation. If we are able to get one of the studs with are first pick (Ayton, Bagley, Porter, JJJ, Doncic). Would anyone trade a protective first in 19 with the NO pick to move up in this draft to grab maybe a Mikal Bridges or someone else if he fell?

I’m probably wrong about this but I believe the Bulls plan to be active in free agency in summer of 19 (failed at this a lot through the years) and the 19 draft (I know it’s early) doesn’t look nearly as strong except for the very top. Besides picks I don’t that we would have much to offer to move up.

No. It would have lottery protected forever then convert to a 2nd. Not trying be the Lakers or Nets having an awful season with no draft pick to look forward to.

[WindyCityBorn]

Maybe Knox doesn't fall to us, but if he doesn't, that means someone else will. Between 8-13, you would expect Carter, Knox, Sexton, Bridges and Bridges to be the guys picked in some order. That means 2 will be available at 12, 1 available at 13. There's always the off chance that someone reaches on someone like Walker, Williams, etc. as well.

12-13 is a great range. 14 or later and your hoping for a reach to get one of the aforementioned guys fall to you. But 12-13 is also definitely a 'beggars can't be choosers' range. We'll just take whoever is available. We still need to hope the Pels fall considerably.

The way our own pick is going, even if we successfully tank, I see a top 4 at this stage - Doncic, Bamba, Ayton, JJJ, in whatever order. I think Porter, Young, Bagley will be the 5-7 guys who we'll be looking at most likely. It's not ideal, the top 4 are much better when it comes to both fit and prospect level.

I would be thrilled to get Porter assuming he checks out medically. I think he is first tier and he fits a huge need at the 3 spot Bamba is second tier. I don't think you can be a franchise plsyer in today's NBA with lacking offense.

[Axolotl]

JJJ looking like prime Shaq out there

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It hurts how close we are to his range. Having him and Markkanen as our front-court would be nuts. Trade up with the Pels pick if you have to.

Pels pick, any player(s) except the three, consider 2019 protected pick too

I don't think we'll be bad enough next season to not trade the 2019 pick if that gets us one of the players we actually want.