2018 Draft Thread #6

Benedict Miller · Post #201 » by **Benedict Miller** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:40 am

Jaren Jackson...too bad he won't be there for us.

realEAST · Post #202 » by **realEAST** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:10 am

At this point I'd be satisfied with#6 and #13, give me premier leftovers and spare me making a choice here.

WindyCityBorn · Post #203 » by **WindyCityBorn** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:46 am

Benedict Miller wrote:Jaren Jackson...too bad he won't be there for us.

We are hardcore tanking now so I would not assume this. I think we finish bottom 5.

Red Larrivee · Post #204 » by **Red Larrivee** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:21 pm

sh0ck wrote:I don't see a scenario where Knox falls out of the top 10. He's a gifted scorer at the perfect height and length.

I really hope the Bulls get at least one of Knox, Bridges x2. Even if it means taking one with a 7-8th pick.

I could see it, but it really depends on how scouts view his long-term potential. He's been inconsistent this season and lacks a calling card to his game. I think he's more of a project than people expected.

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Dresden · Post #205 » by **Dresden** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:49 pm

I'm not sold on Knox. He's got nice size and has some scoring ability, but there's not much else to his game.

leo921 · Post #206 » by **leo921** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:22 pm

Would you trade NO pick (14-16th) and Bobby Portis to a team in the 8-10th pick range in order to chose one of Wendall Carter, Mikal Bridges or Kevin Knox.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #207 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:35 pm

Dresden wrote:I'm not sold on Knox. He's got nice size and has some scoring ability, but there's not much else to his game.

If I were to do a bust rankings (most likely to bust), he would be at one.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #208 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:38 pm

leo921 wrote:Would you trade NO pick (14-16th) and Bobby Portis to a team in the 8-10th pick range in order to chose one of Wendall Carter, Mikal Bridges or Kevin Knox.

Yes.

I think there are a couple of large tiers (1-7) and (8-12), and it kind of falls off after that. Getting a player from tier one and tier two would be great.

realEAST · Post #209 » by **realEAST** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:47 pm

leo921 wrote:Would you trade NO pick (14-16th) and Bobby Portis to a team in the 8-10th pick range in order to chose one of Wendall Carter, Mikal Bridges or Kevin Knox.

Yep.

Axolotl · Post #210 » by **Axolotl** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:53 pm

leo921 wrote:Would you trade NO pick (14-16th) and Bobby Portis to a team in the 8-10th pick range in order to chose one of Wendall Carter, Mikal Bridges or Kevin Knox.

Yes, at least for Carter or Bridges. Not sure about Knox yet.

gobullschi · Post #211 » by **gobullschi** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:59 pm

realEAST wrote:
leo921 wrote:Would you trade NO pick (14-16th) and Bobby Portis to a team in the 8-10th pick range in order to chose one of Wendall Carter, Mikal Bridges or Kevin Knox.

Yep.

I'm not sure how much value Bobby Portis will really have. He will be up for a new contract after next season and will be looking to get paid. I guess it depends on how he finishes the year.

My guess is that Portis will not be enough value to move up much. I posted a deal in the 76ers forum where the Bulls absorbed Bayless's contract and had Bobby Portis + NO 1st to move up to the 8-10 range and they rejected it easily. They said it would also cost a future 1st. Apparently that was the price Orlando paid with the Saric trade. IMO that price is too steep.

DanTown8587 · Post #212 » by **DanTown8587** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:40 pm

gobullschi wrote:
realEAST wrote:
leo921 wrote:Would you trade NO pick (14-16th) and Bobby Portis to a team in the 8-10th pick range in order to chose one of Wendall Carter, Mikal Bridges or Kevin Knox.

Yep.

I'm not sure how much value Bobby Portis will really have. He will be up for a new contract after next season and will be looking to get paid. I guess it depends on how he finishes the year.

My guess is that Portis will not be enough value to move up much. I posted a deal in the 76ers forum where the Bulls absorbed Bayless's contract and had Bobby Portis + NO 1st to move up to the 8-10 range and they rejected it easily. They said it would also cost a future 1st. Apparently that was the price Orlando paid with the Saric trade. IMO that price is too steep.

To be fair, the question about whether Philly does that deal is kind of silly because Colangelo likely thinks differently than the fan base so while fans would want the pick, Colangelo would know that getting the sure thing with Portis for a year at a low cost and taking eight or so million of the cap might be the difference in signing a max player like LeBron. I mean, recent history says the cost of moving up to the back end of the top 10 is two mid firsts

2017 - Kings trade 10 for 15, 20
2016 - Kings trade 8 for 13, 28, rights to Bogan Bodanovic, future 2nd
2015 - None
2014 - Nuggets trade 11, Randolph for 16, 19, future 2nd
2013 - Wolves trade 9 for 14, 21

If the pick between Chicago and New Orleans is 5 or less, I can totally see the Sixers doing a swap, especially if the Bulls take bad cap like Bayless.

blazeyo · Post #213 » by **blazeyo** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:11 pm

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is a damn good prospect. Almost can't miss in my opinion.

qianlong · Post #214 » by **qianlong** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:02 pm

leo921 wrote:Would you trade NO pick (14-16th) and Bobby Portis to a team in the 8-10th pick range in order to chose one of Wendall Carter, Mikal Bridges or Kevin Knox.

Without a doubt for Bridges. In doubt for Knox

pipfan · Post #215 » by **pipfan** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:38 pm

I would trade up for Portis for sure, and take on a bad deal. Give me JJJ/Bamba and Bridges/Bridges and I am happy

Lolo · Post #216 » by **Lolo** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:30 pm

blazeyo wrote:Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is a damn good prospect. Almost can't miss in my opinion.

I agree. I think he is going to be a great pick up for someone in the middle of the first. He's not the most athletic guy, but he's got a good arsenal of moves and a huge wingspan. While he has a good looking shot, he doesn't shoot many threes. Good mechanics are there so I see no reason why he can't develop an NBA distance 3 into his game. I think he would fit well on the Bulls behind LaVine and Dunn, or next to either of them in limited minutes. He is running the point some for Kentucky, so he's getting some experience running the team and distributing, even though I think he is better suited for the NBA as a 2 guard. With his long wingspan he can be a plus defender, so it would be interesting to see him next to Dunn.

gobullschi · Post #217 » by **gobullschi** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:31 pm

DanTown8587 wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
realEAST wrote:
Yep.

I'm not sure how much value Bobby Portis will really have. He will be up for a new contract after next season and will be looking to get paid. I guess it depends on how he finishes the year.

My guess is that Portis will not be enough value to move up much. I posted a deal in the 76ers forum where the Bulls absorbed Bayless's contract and had Bobby Portis + NO 1st to move up to the 8-10 range and they rejected it easily. They said it would also cost a future 1st. Apparently that was the price Orlando paid with the Saric trade. IMO that price is too steep.

To be fair, the question about whether Philly does that deal is kind of silly because Colangelo likely thinks differently than the fan base so while fans would want the pick, Colangelo would know that getting the sure thing with Portis for a year at a low cost and taking eight or so million of the cap might be the difference in signing a max player like LeBron. I mean, recent history says the cost of moving up to the back end of the top 10 is two mid firsts

2017 - Kings trade 10 for 15, 20
2016 - Kings trade 8 for 13, 28, rights to Bogan Bodanovic, future 2nd
2015 - None
2014 - Nuggets trade 11, Randolph for 16, 19, future 2nd
2013 - Wolves trade 9 for 14, 21

If the pick between Chicago and New Orleans is 5 or less, I can totally see the Sixers doing a swap, especially if the Bulls take bad cap like Bayless.

Dont get me wrong, I am all for a deal to move up in the draft at the expense of Portis. I am just relaying the responses i received which had valid points. They said the cost for a team to absorb Bayless (whos deal expires next year) would be at most 2 2nd Round Picks (BKN & NY) which are high 2nds. *This is debatable.

They also pointed to the Saric/Payton deal which was 2 1sts and a 2nd to move up 2 spots. (From 12 to 10)

realEAST · Post #218 » by **realEAST** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:05 pm

gobullschi wrote:
realEAST wrote:
leo921 wrote:Would you trade NO pick (14-16th) and Bobby Portis to a team in the 8-10th pick range in order to chose one of Wendall Carter, Mikal Bridges or Kevin Knox.

Yep.

I'm not sure how much value Bobby Portis will really have. He will be up for a new contract after next season and will be looking to get paid. I guess it depends on how he finishes the year.

My guess is that Portis will not be enough value to move up much. I posted a deal in the 76ers forum where the Bulls absorbed Bayless's contract and had Bobby Portis + NO 1st to move up to the 8-10 range and they rejected it easily. They said it would also cost a future 1st. Apparently that was the price Orlando paid with the Saric trade. IMO that price is too steep.

I kind of agree with what you wrote, that is close to my assessment and no, I wouldn't be willing to include future 1st in deal like this.
But in context of question, Portis + Pels for Bridges/Carter/Knox is a yes from me.

gobullschi · Post #219 » by **gobullschi** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:13 pm

One player that intruiges me is Chandler Hutchinson. Good athlete and very fluid with the ball. He has point guard skills at 6'7. If we are somehow able to aquire a late 1st he would be a great pick up.

T_chandlerfan · Post #220 » by **T_chandlerfan** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:21 pm

I think the Bulls should draft! Omer Yurtseven from NC State.

He’s 7 foot with his inside out game would compliment Lauri’s game well. He’s got some low post moves and he can hit the three ball.

I feel the loss of Nickola Mirotic hurts the bulls. Both He and Lari Markkanen could have bennifeted with playing time together.

If the bulls draft Omer then the would have a legit center. And unique power forward combo that might be better then what Mirotic and Markkanen could have been being the Yurtseven has low post moves.

Anyways, just seeing on what you guys thought were on Yurtseven?

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