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2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#721 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:28 am

Not saying we need to be picky. But considering a healthy Fultz, who's the guy we really need in this draft?
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#722 » by Sportfan73 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:40 am

76ciology wrote:Not saying we need to be picky. But considering a healthy Fultz, who's the guy we really need in this draft?

Two incredibly high upside swim for the fences picks is good with me.


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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#723 » by Stribor » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:08 am

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76ciology wrote:Not saying we need to be picky. But considering a healthy Fultz, who's the guy we really need in this draft?

Two incredibly high upside swim for the fences picks is good with me.

We are in a "win now" mode. With this in mind - no "upsides players" for me! Now we need the most nba ready players, because we will not have enough developing time for young prospects. This is Orlando's mistake. They were in win now mode and were drafting upside players .. now they have dipo excelling elsewhere, Hezonja excelling with them but without the contract and so on.

I was hoping that this year will be more about developing players, but we are just to good :) I still think TLC can become important part of the future, but I wonder if he will get enough time to play through mistakes. In a way this is the worst period for young development - we are to good to let them play without worrying if will we enter the playoffs, and we are to bad to be able to waive a number of games for youth development being certain that we will be a high playoff team.

With this in mind, really the most nba ready players are a way to go. Of course you can try some young prospect hoping he will immediately start to play like Gianis or KP, but this type of prospects are extremely rare. Also this can happen only with very young players with "freak of nature" physical attributes. If there is no such guy in this draft then just go for the most nba ready guys. Even if they are 23 ...

Regarding the positions one has to be a hopeful iso scorer good enough for second unit on the position SG or SF and other should be catch and shoot defender on any of mid positions ...
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#724 » by BoomBap » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:44 pm

We should have the assets to draft both Bridges.

Or at least trade up for Jackson oder Young.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#725 » by Ericb5 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:03 pm

76ciology wrote:Not saying we need to be picky. But considering a healthy Fultz, who's the guy we really need in this draft?


We don’t need anything on the team other than good bench scorers.


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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#726 » by Kobblehead » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:05 pm

76ciology wrote:Not saying we need to be picky. But considering a healthy Fultz, who's the guy we really need in this draft?

I think we gotta take the HUA(highest upside available), no matter what.

Fultz won't factor into who I'd select. Hell, even Ben Simmons is a mere pending star. Our only established star player right now is Embiid. He's the only guy that would steer my draft decision.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#727 » by Mamba4Goat » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:46 am

If you guys can choose between LA's pick (likely to stay with Philly) or the Sac pick next year, which one would you guys prefer?
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#728 » by PLO » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:13 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:If you guys can choose between LA's pick (likely to stay with Philly) or the Sac pick next year, which one would you guys prefer?


The Lakers pick: for one this looks to be a stronger draft and its particularly strong in relative terms where the Lakers pick will fall. So what that means is the 10th pick from this draft will have a higher expected outcome than the average 10th pick from all other drafts. I think its a good year to have a pick in that range and I expect a few players picked in the top 10 to bust tbh (relative to draft position).

Also, next year the lottery rules change and the odds flatten out; given the Kings have no incentive to tank they are likely to improve their win/loss; if they finish between 5th and 10th in terms of worst record the odds of the pick transferring to us are much greater than this year given we have a top one protection on the pick. Admittedly while the odds are much greater they are still quite slim, but I'll take that over slimmer than slim. We'll still be in the RJ Barrett/Cameron Reddish etc sweepstakes.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#729 » by LakersSoul » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:29 am

Question from an outsider:

Considering you guys will have 2 FRP (most likely Lakers) plus 4 second round picks, do you think your FO will look to trade up, trade them for future picks or sell all those picks especially the 2nd rounders?

Is there a consensus on this board on how the team should move forward with 6 drafts picks without the room to sign them all?

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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#730 » by Sixerscan » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:42 am

LakersSoul wrote:Question from an outsider:

Considering you guys will have 2 FRP (most likely Lakers) plus 4 second round picks, do you think your FO will look to trade up, trade them for future picks or sell all those picks especially the 2nd rounders?

Is there a consensus on this board on how the team should move forward with 6 drafts picks without the room to sign them all?


Last year they did all of the above, also stashed people in Europe. I assume they will take a similar approach this year. I doubt there will be more than 2 people from this draft class on the roster in the fall.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#731 » by Kobblehead » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:58 pm

I'd probably prefer the Kings pick next year to the Lakers pick this year. Unless Harry Giles comes back in highschool form, I don't see them making a big jump from where they are now.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#732 » by Wilfried » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:29 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I'd probably prefer the Kings pick next year to the Lakers pick this year. Unless Harry Giles comes back in highschool form, I don't see them making a big jump from where they are now.


We'll see. They are actually not that bad either. With another young talent, some more experience from Fox, Hield, Bodgdanovic, ... and some quality vets (they have cap space) they could easily become a 35-win team imo. They don't have any reason to lose either. I see a BKN-LAL-scenario for them next season.

But the fact I prefer the LA pick above the SAC pick at the moment, is the quality of the 2018 draft against the supposed lesser quality of the 2019 draft.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#733 » by OleSchool » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:33 pm

Mamba4Goat wrote:If you guys can choose between LA's pick (likely to stay with Philly) or the Sac pick next year, which one would you guys prefer?


speaking for me, I think both picks will end up in the same range 8-11. So then it comes down to strength of draft. This draft looks stronger than next one (things can change) so I would rather have the LAL pick
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#734 » by Kobblehead » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:06 pm

I dunno, I think the Kings are pretty pitiful. 30th ranked offense and 28th ranked defense. They have a handful of young players that I like, but as of now, they're all trending as role players (as opposed to stars). Will that change in a year? Maybe, but I'm not counting on it. I think they'll still be one of the 5 worst teams in the NBA next year.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#735 » by Wilfried » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:07 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I dunno, I think the Kings are pretty pitiful. 30th ranked offense and 28th ranked defense. They have a handful of young players that I like, but as of now, they're all trending as role players (as opposed to stars). Will that change in a year? Maybe, but I'm not counting on it. I think they'll still be one of the 5 worst teams in the NBA next year.


Could be, and that's not so bad because that will give us +/- 14% chance at the no.1 pick.
Doesn't seem like a very interesting draft on the other hand.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#736 » by Kobblehead » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:45 pm

What's uninteresting about the 2019 draft?
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#737 » by TTP » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:56 pm

Wilfried wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I'd probably prefer the Kings pick next year to the Lakers pick this year. Unless Harry Giles comes back in highschool form, I don't see them making a big jump from where they are now.


We'll see. They are actually not that bad either. With another young talent, some more experience from Fox, Hield, Bodgdanovic, ... and some quality vets (they have cap space) they could easily become a 35-win team imo. They don't have any reason to lose either. I see a BKN-LAL-scenario for them next season.

But the fact I prefer the LA pick above the SAC pick at the moment, is the quality of the 2018 draft against the supposed lesser quality of the 2019 draft.


SAC isn't winning 35 games next year. I'd be shocked if they hit 30.

It seems like they have a collection of nice prospects, but they have no one that easily projects to be a game changing star. They have probably one guy that might eventually turn into an above average starter in Fox if everything goes right (and he seems pretty far away from that) and a few guys that likely end up decent rotation players in WCS, Bogdanovic, and Hield. Maybe one or two of Skal, Jackson, Giles, or Mason become useful players but they're all longshots.

Best case scenario in free agency seems to be landing someone like Aaron Gordon, who might re-sign, and probably won't go to the Kings even if he doesn't. Gordon is leading the Magic at a 26 win pace right now with a better supporting cast than what he'd have on the Kings.
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#738 » by PLO » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:31 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:If you guys can choose between LA's pick (likely to stay with Philly) or the Sac pick next year, which one would you guys prefer?


LakersSoul wrote:Question from an outsider:

Considering you guys will have 2 FRP (most likely Lakers) plus 4 second round picks, do you think your FO will look to trade up, trade them for future picks or sell all those picks especially the 2nd rounders?

Is there a consensus on this board on how the team should move forward with 6 drafts picks without the room to sign them all?


Why are you Lakers people interested in the 76ers? Is it just a random thing or you guys have an eye on a few of our second round picks?
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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#739 » by LakersSoul » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:50 am

PLO wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:If you guys can choose between LA's pick (likely to stay with Philly) or the Sac pick next year, which one would you guys prefer?


LakersSoul wrote:Question from an outsider:

Considering you guys will have 2 FRP (most likely Lakers) plus 4 second round picks, do you think your FO will look to trade up, trade them for future picks or sell all those picks especially the 2nd rounders?

Is there a consensus on this board on how the team should move forward with 6 drafts picks without the room to sign them all?


Why are you Lakers people interested in the 76ers? Is it just a random thing or you guys have an eye on a few of our second round picks?


First, obviously, the 76ers has a high probability of getting our FRP this year.
Second, 76ers and the Lakers were brothers in tanking and rebuilding for a few years.
Lastly, I would love for the Lakers to add some of those 2nd rounders that you guys have.

Lakers are looking to add a few MAX guys then hopefully surround them with young and/or MLE cheap talent. We hope Magic/Pelinka continue to find gems in the 2nd round. 76ers are the perfect fit since you guys have a lot of 2nd rounders and your new GM doesnt seem to care much about 2nd rounder, at least previously, and much less than the genius Hinkie. ;)

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Re: 2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc) 

Post#740 » by Ericb5 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:04 am

Kobblehead wrote:What's uninteresting about the 2019 draft?


I think that a top 5 pick next year certainly trumps the 10th pick this year even if I don’t know who those players would be in the top 5 next year.




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