Lebron to Rockets by deadline?

[PT416]

lebron to rockets confirmed

[MelosSoreWrist]

Asking the Houston board with all the rumors of LBJ to the Rockets this offseason, how would that even work? Is that with Houston not resigning CP3 and Capela? Anderson and Gordon are terrible and bad contracts in this new NBA cap landscape and Cleveland wont pay luxury tax for guys like them in a sign and trade. Whats the outline of how it would be possible?

[inquisitive]

Actually I think he likely stays now after the trade. Then again if they flame out big in playoffs who knows

[Mr. E]

I know that “Anderson is terrible” is a thing; but now we are seeing “Gordon is, too” as a new narrative?

I’ll let one of the capologists handle it, but it would be a Harden/Paul/James/Capela core from what I understand


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[K_chile22]

Asking the Houston board with all the rumors of LBJ to the Rockets this offseason, how would that even work? Is that with Houston not resigning CP3 and Capela? Anderson and Gordon are terrible and bad contracts in this new NBA cap landscape and Cleveland wont pay luxury tax for guys like them in a sign and trade. Whats the outline of how it would be possible?

Anderson's contract is terrible but I have never heard anyone call Gordon's contract bad. 12.5M for a starting caliber two guard is pretty dirt cheap, an average starter in this cap environment gets 15+. He could return a late first.

It would be an opt in and trade, Ryan and two Rockets first to Cleveland, and Gordon for a late first to another team, which goes to Cleveland. They take on two years of Ryan's deal but get three first rounders

[TMU]

Asking the Houston board with all the rumors of LBJ to the Rockets this offseason, how would that even work? Is that with Houston not resigning CP3 and Capela? Anderson and Gordon are terrible and bad contracts in this new NBA cap landscape and Cleveland wont pay luxury tax for guys like them in a sign and trade. Whats the outline of how it would be possible?

Splash is great. Great is splash.

[MelosSoreWrist]

Asking the Houston board with all the rumors of LBJ to the Rockets this offseason, how would that even work? Is that with Houston not resigning CP3 and Capela? Anderson and Gordon are terrible and bad contracts in this new NBA cap landscape and Cleveland wont pay luxury tax for guys like them in a sign and trade. Whats the outline of how it would be possible?

Anderson's contract is terrible but I have never heard anyone call Gordon's contract bad. 12.5M for a starting caliber two guard is pretty dirt cheap, an average starter in this cap environment gets 15+. He could return a late first.

It would be an opt in and trade, Ryan and two Rockets first to Cleveland, and Gordon for a late first to another team, which goes to Cleveland. They take on two years of Ryan's deal but get three first rounders

Gordon is signed for the next two years at 13.5 and 14 mil. And he has been downright mediocre. In the new NBA with Lou Williams signing for 8 mil, I think its bad. I cant imagine him being able to fetch a 1st round pick. But lets say they do. Is that the main path to LBJ in HOU?

[TMU]

Asking the Houston board with all the rumors of LBJ to the Rockets this offseason, how would that even work? Is that with Houston not resigning CP3 and Capela? Anderson and Gordon are terrible and bad contracts in this new NBA cap landscape and Cleveland wont pay luxury tax for guys like them in a sign and trade. Whats the outline of how it would be possible?

Anderson's contract is terrible but I have never heard anyone call Gordon's contract bad. 12.5M for a starting caliber two guard is pretty dirt cheap, an average starter in this cap environment gets 15+. He could return a late first.

It would be an opt in and trade, Ryan and two Rockets first to Cleveland, and Gordon for a late first to another team, which goes to Cleveland. They take on two years of Ryan's deal but get three first rounders

Gordon is signed for the next two years at 13.5 and 14 mil. And he has been downright mediocre. In the new NBA with Lou Williams signing for 8 mil, I think its bad. I cant imagine him being able to fetch a 1st round pick. But lets say they do. Is that the main path to LBJ in HOU?

I don't know if you had the chance to look at the Hoopshype website salary page, where you will see that Gordon ranks 91st in player salary. There are plenty of buffoons and scrubs who are basically getting away with larceny. Chander Effin Parsons ($24m), Monroe ($22m), Batomb ($22m), Crab ($18.5m), Mason Plumlee ($14m), Dieng ($14m), the 2 untradable guys in Cleveland (JR and Kardashian)... the list goes on and you will find yourself scratching your head wondering why in the world these guys are getting paid with so much money. Based on that list, Gordon seems to be paid just right at where he deserves to be. Numerically, I don't think there are 90 players that are better than him.

Now, you compared his contract to Sweet Lou's. One can argue that Lou is getting older, but given his past 3 season he's criminally underpaid at $8m. So he's certainly an outlier compared to a lot of athletes who are overpaid. Therefore, I don't think it's fair to compare Gordon's contract to Lou's extension.

Lastly, the cap won't revert back to that of the old days. The discrepancy in contracts will only get worse as the league continues to be well off financially as evidenced by the increase in ratings and sales in merchandise. Contracts are only going to get worse, but as it stands right now Gordon's isn't a bad contract.

[MelosSoreWrist]

Anderson's contract is terrible but I have never heard anyone call Gordon's contract bad. 12.5M for a starting caliber two guard is pretty dirt cheap, an average starter in this cap environment gets 15+. He could return a late first.

It would be an opt in and trade, Ryan and two Rockets first to Cleveland, and Gordon for a late first to another team, which goes to Cleveland. They take on two years of Ryan's deal but get three first rounders

Gordon is signed for the next two years at 13.5 and 14 mil. And he has been downright mediocre. In the new NBA with Lou Williams signing for 8 mil, I think its bad. I cant imagine him being able to fetch a 1st round pick. But lets say they do. Is that the main path to LBJ in HOU?

I don't know if you had the chance to look at the Hoopshype website salary page, where you will see that Gordon ranks 91st in player salary. There are plenty of buffoons and scrubs who are basically getting away with larceny. Chander Effin Parsons ($24m), Greg Monroe ($22m), Batomb ($22m), Crab ($18.5m), Mason Plumlee ($14m), Gorgui Dieng ($14m) the list goes on and you will find yourself scratching your head wondering why in the world these guys are getting paid with so much money. Based on that list, Gordon seems to be paid just right at where he deserves to be. Numerically, I don't think there are 90 players that are better than him.

Now, you compared his contract to Sweet Lou's. One can argue that Lou is getting older, but given his past 3 season he's criminally underpaid at $8m. So he's certainly an outlier compared to a lot of athletes who are overpaid. Therefore, I don't think it's fair to compare Gordon's contract to Lou's extension.

Lastly, the cap won't revert back to that of the old days. The discrepancy in contracts will only get worse as the league continues to be well off financially as evidenced by the increase in ratings and sales in merchandise. Contracts are only going to get worse, but as it stands right now Gordon's isn't a bad contract.

Most all of those bad contracts are from 2 years ago when there was a cap spike and teams were seemingly confused as to how to use it. The cap has leveled out. I think this seasons Lou contract is a barometer setting contract. I think Avery Bradley and Caldwell-Pope end up with similarly sized contracts. And I think that would make Gordon overpaid.

The cap is due to only go up $2 mil next season.

This new structure eliminates the middle class. Superstars would still get theirs, but vast majority of solid players will be getting MLE level contracts imo unless its one year fillers like what LAL and Phi did.

[TMU]

Gordon is signed for the next two years at 13.5 and 14 mil. And he has been downright mediocre. In the new NBA with Lou Williams signing for 8 mil, I think its bad. I cant imagine him being able to fetch a 1st round pick. But lets say they do. Is that the main path to LBJ in HOU?

I don't know if you had the chance to look at the Hoopshype website salary page, where you will see that Gordon ranks 91st in player salary. There are plenty of buffoons and scrubs who are basically getting away with larceny. Chander Effin Parsons ($24m), Greg Monroe ($22m), Batomb ($22m), Crab ($18.5m), Mason Plumlee ($14m), Gorgui Dieng ($14m) the list goes on and you will find yourself scratching your head wondering why in the world these guys are getting paid with so much money. Based on that list, Gordon seems to be paid just right at where he deserves to be. Numerically, I don't think there are 90 players that are better than him.

Now, you compared his contract to Sweet Lou's. One can argue that Lou is getting older, but given his past 3 season he's criminally underpaid at $8m. So he's certainly an outlier compared to a lot of athletes who are overpaid. Therefore, I don't think it's fair to compare Gordon's contract to Lou's extension.

Lastly, the cap won't revert back to that of the old days. The discrepancy in contracts will only get worse as the league continues to be well off financially as evidenced by the increase in ratings and sales in merchandise. Contracts are only going to get worse, but as it stands right now Gordon's isn't a bad contract.

Most all of those bad contracts are from 2 years ago when there was a cap spike and teams were seemingly confused as to how to use it. The cap has leveled out. I think this seasons Lou contract is a barometer setting contract. I think Avery Bradley and Caldwell-Pope end up with similarly sized contracts. And I think that would make Gordon overpaid.

The cap is due to only go up $2 mil next season.

This new structure eliminates the middle class. Superstars would still get theirs, but vast majority of solid players will be getting MLE level contracts imo unless its one year fillers like what LAL and Phi did.

Yeah, but the cap is going up and not down. Like you said, many of those players received contracts around the same time when Gordon received his. Compared to many of those players, $14m seems like a reasonable deal (and far from a bad contract) for a 6MOY who's capable of creating his own shots. Hell, I don't speak for all Rockets fans here, but I won't even take Klay Thompson (and overpay him) over Eric Gordon for the 6th man role for the Rockets.

Avery Bradley is an expiring contract, and will no doubt command well over $12m from some franchise.

And like you said, KCP, who is significantly inferior to Gordon, got a 1-year $18m deal, again which is significantly more than Gordon's per year. His stupid greedy agent turned down a $80m 5-year contract. That's $16m/year, which is still higher than Gordon's, for an much lesser talent.

[inquisitive]

I don't think Lebron is leaving the Cavs after the big trades they made, but he would take a paycut to come here should he leave from Howard Beck's article. Since Wade has made up with Riley, i don't see Wade leaving the Heat.

"I really hope that, before our career is over, we can all play together," James told B/R two years ago. "At least one, maybe one or two seasons—me, Melo, D-Wade, CP—we can get a year in. I would actually take a pay cut to do that."

[inquisitive]

Asking the Houston board with all the rumors of LBJ to the Rockets this offseason, how would that even work? Is that with Houston not resigning CP3 and Capela? Anderson and Gordon are terrible and bad contracts in this new NBA cap landscape and Cleveland wont pay luxury tax for guys like them in a sign and trade. Whats the outline of how it would be possible?

gordon has a good contract.

[Mr. E]

I'm still not getting the mental gymnastics behind this "Gordon is a bad deal" opinion.

[MelosSoreWrist]

41.8% fg, 33.4% 3pt, 14.7 PER, doesnt rebound, doesnt playmake.

I think you guys are overrating him. KCP, Bradley, Jeremy Lamb, Etwan Moore... that level player except he's older. And I think they are $8 mil guys in this market. Like what Lou Williams signed. Heck, would Tyreke Evans who is balling this year make more than Gordon?

[K_chile22]

41.8% fg, 33.4% 3pt, 14.7 PER, doesnt rebound, doesnt playmake.

I think you guys are overrating him. KCP, Bradley, Jeremy Lamb, Etwan Moore... that level player except he's older. And I think they are $8 mil guys in this market. Like what Lou Williams signed. Heck, would Tyreke Evans who is balling this year make more than Gordon?

He's better than all those players this season. Lou signed a below market deal because he wanted an extension to lock his money in now and that's the most the Clippers could legally offer in an extension. His shot from the has been off but it's putting up nearly 19 a game on above can average TS. He may not be a great playmaker, but lineups with him at point guard are +12 per100 on the season, so he can do it if he needs to, but with Harden and CP3 healthy, he doesn't have to. He has the best +/- and net rating on what should be a 60+ win team.

[TMU]

41.8% fg, 33.4% 3pt, 14.7 PER, doesnt rebound, doesnt playmake.

I think you guys are overrating him. KCP, Bradley, Jeremy Lamb, Etwan Moore... that level player except he's older. And I think they are $8 mil guys in this market. Like what Lou Williams signed. Heck, would Tyreke Evans who is balling this year make more than Gordon?

Respect your opinion, but I just can't agree. I hate to overrate our guys, and there have been numerous overrated and overpaid players, but Gordon isn't one.

[moofs]

41.8% fg, 33.4% 3pt, 14.7 PER, doesnt rebound, doesnt playmake.

I think you guys are overrating him. KCP, Bradley, Jeremy Lamb, Etwan Moore... that level player except he's older. And I think they are $8 mil guys in this market. Like what Lou Williams signed. Heck, would Tyreke Evans who is balling this year make more than Gordon?

I'll throw you a bone here.

How about, "He's not a bad deal, but he's not a good deal either, and he's on the high cost end for the caliber of player he is. He's a good fit for the Rockets, but he probably wouldn't be worth quite as much in a lot of other situations. He's not really 'overpaid' for the situation he's in. However, he's clearly not a bargain, and in some situations he would in fact be overpaid (e.g. Sacramento, Brooklyn)."

Quite honestly, Ryan Anderson is about the same situation, except moreso. We paid a premium to keep a guy who can fill an important role for us, but for what he's producing this year, he'd be WILDLY overpaid on a lot of other teams, and even on ours he's probably overpaid by at least 3-6 million.

[inquisitive]

41.8% fg, 33.4% 3pt, 14.7 PER, doesnt rebound, doesnt playmake.

I think you guys are overrating him. KCP, Bradley, Jeremy Lamb, Etwan Moore... that level player except he's older. And I think they are $8 mil guys in this market. Like what Lou Williams signed. Heck, would Tyreke Evans who is balling this year make more than Gordon?

I'll throw you a bone here.

How about, "He's not a bad deal, but he's not a good deal either, and he's on the high cost end for the caliber of player he is. He's a good fit for the Rockets, but he probably wouldn't be worth quite as much in a lot of other situations. He's not really 'overpaid' for the situation he's in. However, he's clearly not a bargain, and in some situations he would in fact be overpaid (e.g. Sacramento, Brooklyn)."

Quite honestly, Ryan Anderson is about the same situation, except moreso. We paid a premium to keep a guy who can fill an important role for us, but for what he's producing this year, he'd be WILDLY overpaid on a lot of other teams, and even on ours he's probably overpaid by at least 3-6 million.

I think the fact that Ryan is a THREAT by stretching the defense is why he is important. He might have many bad games shooting, but other teams know that he can go off anytime with his bombs which is why they can't sag off of him.