DeAndre Ayton

[SeattleJazzFan]

took $100k to play for Arizona

yep. we may have seen the last of Ayton outside the NBA.

[MemphisX]

EVERYONE gets paid in college. Why are we acting like this is news.

[DirtyDez]

He may be done for the season. Miller needs to step down at this point.

It's a shame cause the dude is a legit good coach. But ya you can't survive with this out there. Really curious if this is just the first big domino to fall

I said at the beginning of the year he looked defeated and wasn’t acting like himself. I feel when the Feds raited his house and phone records back in September he might’ve had an idea this was coming. If he lied to the Feds he’ll have bigger problems than getting fired.

The fact that a head coach of a major program actually discussed these things on the phone with an agent is just incredibly stupid.

[Duke4life831]

He may be done for the season. Miller needs to step down at this point.

It's a shame cause the dude is a legit good coach. But ya you can't survive with this out there. Really curious if this is just the first big domino to fall

I said at the beginning of the year he looked defeated and wasn’t acting like himself. I feel when the Feds raited his house and phone records back in September he might’ve had an idea this was coming. If he lied to the Feds he’ll have bigger problems than getting fired.

The fact that a head coach of a major program actually discussed these things on the phone with an agent is just incredibly stupid.

Ya I remember you saying that and I agreed 100%. You could see in that early tournament (believe it was the Bahamas?) that something just wasn't right with Miller. Didn't have the energy he usually had. Kind of really makes sense now, wouldn't be shocked if he has been waiting all year for this to drop.

[SeattleJazzFan]

EVERYONE gets paid in college. Why are we acting like this is news.

its news because they caught a big time head coach discussing payment to a big time player. that doesn't happen every day.

[Jazzfan12]

Two things.

1. Ayton should have held out for more than 100k.
2. Don't do crimes over the phone, even if the fact that it's a crime is dumb and silly.

[RookieStar]

wow.. i wonder if anybof the top picks will be mentioned here. Bamba Bagley MpJ etc etc?

[clyde21]

Best thing to happen to Ayton. Don't risk injury. Leave Arizona and train on your own.

Virtual lock for for the #1 pick.

[Justwar]

Not everyone cheats. A lot of dirty stuff happens in aau but done privately where only a few people know. I have a educated guess that kentuckys situation with bam has more to do with NC state but I don't know. I do know Kentucky didn't wanna touch ayton. But I'm sure we will get answers. I think if they had truly big stuff on Duke unc Kentucky it would be out there because of the money in breaking that story even more so

[nolang1]

wow.. i wonder if anybof the top picks will be mentioned here. Bamba Bagley MpJ etc etc?

The money that went to Bagley’s and Porter’s families came in the form of coaching/AAU director positions for the dads, which by the letter of the law is fine with the NCAA.

[thr3ep01nte4]

This is where you would be better served not looking at a site like nbadraft dot net. They just do contrarian stuff like that to get clicks because the actual content of the website is not that good. Another one of theirs I remember is being extremely late in putting Towns over Okafor and trying to make that seem like much more of a debate than it actually was.

Watch on YouTube

OK that clip was basically Paul Pierce playing the role of you and everyone else playing the role of everyone else in the thread haha. I remember thinking Andre Drummond was a bit underrated before the draft and hoping the Cavs would take him 4th to pair with Kyrie (which definitely would have been much better than them picking Waiters), but to say there was a comparison between him and Davis is an enormous stretch. Nobody was tanking to get a shot at drafting Drummond like they were for Davis.

You are missing my point, Ayton fanboy. Got all protective bout your prize.

I’m just saying it was a lot closer before Davis and Kentucky made a big NCAA tournament run. Also, what I said was but for Davis, Drummond would have been a favorite for no. 1. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1035506-2012-nba-mock-draft-will-anthony-davis-or-andre-drummond-go-no-1

[GimmeDat]

Ayton doesn't have the same offensive repertoire as a guy like KAT, at all, but he's also much more physically dominant. He's closer to Embiid than KAT skill-set wise imo, or even Drummond with a jumper. Physical athlete that will bully you but has enough tools to keep you honest. KAT's more of a finesse/high skill level guy.

KAT bullies and destroys people on the block on a nightly basis, this is just not accurate whatsoever

Ayton skillset isn't really close to either or, he isn't the same level of a shooter as KAT is and doesn't have his ability to generate points from any spot on the court, and he doesn't have Embiid's ability on ball, hesitation, long strides, etc.

Offensively he is more like a more developed Drummond, which is fine, but those other two guys are historically great skill wise, esp KAT

KAT bullies 4's, I haven't seen him bully many 5's. He's definitely more than capable in the post, but he's a much higher skill guy who relies on a perimeter game much more than Ayton. There is no denying that, should Ayton be uses his body effectively, that he's a much more intimidating physical presence on the interior.

I didn't compare his skill-set to KAT's, I contrasted it.

[GameBredAPBT]

EVERYONE gets paid in college. Why are we acting like this is news.

Fodder for the working class/plebs

[No-Man]

Ayton doesn't have the same offensive repertoire as a guy like KAT, at all, but he's also much more physically dominant. He's closer to Embiid than KAT skill-set wise imo, or even Drummond with a jumper. Physical athlete that will bully you but has enough tools to keep you honest. KAT's more of a finesse/high skill level guy.

KAT bullies and destroys people on the block on a nightly basis, this is just not accurate whatsoever

Ayton skillset isn't really close to either or, he isn't the same level of a shooter as KAT is and doesn't have his ability to generate points from any spot on the court, and he doesn't have Embiid's ability on ball, hesitation, long strides, etc.

Offensively he is more like a more developed Drummond, which is fine, but those other two guys are historically great skill wise, esp KAT

KAT bullies 4's, I haven't seen him bully many 5's. He's definitely more than capable in the post, but he's a much higher skill guy who relies on a perimeter game much more than Ayton. There is no denying that, should Ayton be uses his body effectively, that he's a much more intimidating physical presence on the interior.

I didn't compare his skill-set to KAT's, I contrasted it.

There is a difference between looking intimidating and been so, you just gotta watch Drummond

Towns bullies everybody man, other than Steven Adams or so, but there is only one of those in the league, I don't think Ayton is gonna be a more physical presence than him, no close.

[azcatz11]

It’s hard to believe Millers journey ended here. I don’t blame him for paying. He was obviously in way over his head and was desperate to do this. Miller treated this program like the mafia.

[Stillwater]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22559284/sean-miller-arizona-christian-dawkins-discussed-payment-ensure-deandre-ayton-signing-according-fbi-investigation
full article

[Homerclease]

KAT bullies and destroys people on the block on a nightly basis, this is just not accurate whatsoever

Ayton skillset isn't really close to either or, he isn't the same level of a shooter as KAT is and doesn't have his ability to generate points from any spot on the court, and he doesn't have Embiid's ability on ball, hesitation, long strides, etc.

Offensively he is more like a more developed Drummond, which is fine, but those other two guys are historically great skill wise, esp KAT

KAT bullies 4's, I haven't seen him bully many 5's. He's definitely more than capable in the post, but he's a much higher skill guy who relies on a perimeter game much more than Ayton. There is no denying that, should Ayton be uses his body effectively, that he's a much more intimidating physical presence on the interior.

I didn't compare his skill-set to KAT's, I contrasted it.

There is a difference between looking intimidating and been so, you just gotta watch Drummond

Towns bullies everybody man, other than Steven Adams or so, but there is only one of those in the league, I don't think Ayton is gonna be a more physical presence than him, no close.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1371002#start_here

Odd. You were extremely low on Towns. Perhaps you are making the same mistake with Ayton?

[3toheadmelo]

KAT bullies 4's, I haven't seen him bully many 5's. He's definitely more than capable in the post, but he's a much higher skill guy who relies on a perimeter game much more than Ayton. There is no denying that, should Ayton be uses his body effectively, that he's a much more intimidating physical presence on the interior.

I didn't compare his skill-set to KAT's, I contrasted it.

There is a difference between looking intimidating and been so, you just gotta watch Drummond

Towns bullies everybody man, other than Steven Adams or so, but there is only one of those in the league, I don't think Ayton is gonna be a more physical presence than him, no close.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1371002#start_here

Odd. You were extremely low on Towns. Perhaps you are making the same mistake with Ayton?

[blazeyo]

KAT bullies 4's, I haven't seen him bully many 5's. He's definitely more than capable in the post, but he's a much higher skill guy who relies on a perimeter game much more than Ayton. There is no denying that, should Ayton be uses his body effectively, that he's a much more intimidating physical presence on the interior.

I didn't compare his skill-set to KAT's, I contrasted it.

There is a difference between looking intimidating and been so, you just gotta watch Drummond

Towns bullies everybody man, other than Steven Adams or so, but there is only one of those in the league, I don't think Ayton is gonna be a more physical presence than him, no close.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1371002#start_here

Odd. You were extremely low on Towns. Perhaps you are making the same mistake with Ayton?

Lol...........

[grubs10]

How does Brian Bowen swing the same kinda money as Deandre??