I thought MKG was going to be a great player.Kanyewest wrote:payitforward wrote:As you say, there's no way to know. But, I wasn't biased against Ernie in this case, because, although I slightly preferred Beal over MK-G, I would have been content had Cho taken Brad & we'd wound up w/ MK-G. As I say, most people had them rated as equivalent, & MK-G's numbers in college were outstanding.
Moreover, MK-G has been a very good NBA player too -- although he's by no means a scorer. Everyone tends to overrate scorers, it's natural.
In this case people it's also easy to forget that Brad Beal was not a very good player his first 4 years in the league.
I think you may also be forgetting that as late as his 3d year, plenty of posters on this board were calling Bradley Beal a bust.
Plus, unlike you, I don't remember a meaningful preference here for Beal over MK-G in the run-up to the draft, tho I could be remembering wrong. Still, I think I'm right, & it would be easy enough to check.
Thinking about it, I remember that there were people who wanted Thomas Robinson, people who wanted Dion Waiters, people who wanted Damian Lillard, & more than one that wanted Harrison Barnes. At least one person wanted Drummond -- who has IMO turned out to be the best & most valuable of the top 10 -- & I think there was someone, maybe more than one, calling for Jeremy Lamb.
(You may remember -- unlikely but maybe -- what my preferred strategy was that year. A massive, multiple trade-down: I wanted to swap our #3 w/ Portland for their #s 6 & 11, & take Drummond @ #6. Then I wanted to trade #11 to Houston for their #s16 & 18. With #18 I wanted to take Terrance Jones, but I wanted to trade #16 to Boston for their #s 21 & 22. I forget who I had in mind to take w/ #21 (probably Sullinger), but I wanted to trade #22 to Dallas for their #s 33 & 34. With #33 I wanted Draymond Green, & with #34 I wanted Jae Crowder. But, we also had #32, which I wanted to trade to Portland for their #s 40 & 41, which I wanted to use on Will Barton & Kyle O'Quinn.
In other words, I wanted to come out of that draft with Andre Drummond, Terrance Jones, Sullinger, Draymond Green, Jae Crowder, Will Barton & Kyle O'Quinn. Seven rookies!!
Of course, I got a raft of sh#t for my idea -- no support whatsoever -- & both Jones & Sullinger didn't work out -- but, come on, that was a great plan!! We had just blown the 2011 draft entirely, & we needed a radical change.
Btw, you are free to go back & look at the 2012 Draft thread if you think I'm kidding. I'm not.
Yeah, Beal's stock went up and down a lot in his first 4 years in the league. Many called him a bust in his rookie season, but then some touted him as a top shooting after playoff performances that were better than James Harden in 2014. There was a lack of statistical improvement in his game from his 1st to 4th year, although I've have argued that his teammates were one of the biggest knocks on his efficiency plus head coaches that emphasized him taking mid range jumpers. His rebounding was pretty bad, although Beal has picked it up recently. I believe he was a strong rebounding guard in college.
I was just reading the draft thread and you are right that many did want MKG. I think there were slightly more people who wanted Beal, MKG was a close 2nd and seemed to be the pick everyone wanted if Beal was off the board. In retrospect, it was also funny that many people were going to riot if Harrison Barnes was the pick instead of MKG, MKG may be slightly better although the gap between them hasn't turned out to be that significant.
Yeah Sullinger looked like he had a chance to be a solid pro coming out. If you would have kept the picks and taken Beal and Draymond, that would have been a pretty good haul.
I wanted to trade down and instead of drafting Beal get Damian Lillard.
Bradley Beal has greatly exceeded my expectations based on his first four years.
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Cheap Ted and Lazy Ernie, always doing the minimum, how are they going to run a single affiliation G-League team.
