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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#381 » by DuckIII » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:34 am

The Box Office wrote:Ayton is not my number 1 anymore after this. I wouldn't draft him if he was still available when we pick. After experiencing Derrick Rose and his Memphis crap, no thanks to Ayton. The Basketball Gods have a way of ending stuff. Doncic is my number one now.


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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#382 » by DuckIII » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:36 am

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Dresden wrote:"On ESPN’s College GameDay, analyst Jay Bilas said there was “no way” Miller should coach against Oregon and called the payment allegation a “career-ending” development. In a SportsCenter segment, fellow analyst Seth Greenberg – who said he has known Miller for 40 years – said Arizona should put the coach on administrative leave. He added that he would be shocked if Ayton, an All-American candidate, plays another college game."

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ncaab/ua/2018/02/24/sean-miller-deandre-ayton-status-arizona-oregon-game/370142002/


I just saw the news on TV, so I am late to the party. First thing I said to my son was Miller is done immediately and I bet Ayton declares for the NBA draft before the weekend is over. I bet neither one takes the floor again.

I’m not shocked by this at all. I know it goes on and I hate the NCAA system that causes this. So I don’t hold it against Miller or Ayton. And hell, Miller might even be looking at federal time.

But what I do hate is that only Miller and Pitino so far have been busted when I know without question that every major program does it. Every. Single. One.

K, Izzo, Self, Williams, and many, many, many more. I want them all caught, football too, and the whole damn thing burned to the ground.

Calipari is probably the king of it. Something about that guy seems very shady to me lol


You mean like the fact that every time he leaves a school it gets severe sanctions based on something that happened when he was there?
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#383 » by DuckIII » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:40 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:In other news, Trae Young got his swagger back.


Watching it. Still don’t want to waste a draft pick on him. Bust potential is enormous. Not guaranteed, but obvious.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#384 » by Davell » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:55 am

Guys, there's plenty of college players that have taken money and/or other things that have not and will not get caught. Been going on for decades.

I'm obviously not saying anything here that everyone reading this doesn't already know.

But, I'll guarantee that there are PLENTY of these players that never got punished by the Basketball Gods.

Because the Basketball Gods understand how much money these kids bring in to their schools and they're just as tired as we are, that these kids get exploited, with the universities getting richer off them.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#385 » by nomorezorro » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:10 am

nomorezorro wrote:45 minutes from tipoff and still no indication either way on whether mpj is actually playing against kentucky. weird!

he's warming up and in shorts, at least


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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#386 » by Davell » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:19 am

Carter went 5-11-6-6-16, with 10 boards, 4 assists, 4 steals, and 2 blocks.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#387 » by Red Larrivee » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:26 am

DuckIII wrote:Every elite collegiate recruit you ever liked in football or basketball, this was their story. The NBA won’t give a **** that Ayton took $ and neither will I.


Yep. There's no way you can blame kids for taking money that's practically thrown at them. I don't know Ayton's background, but a good amount of top recruits come (or used to) from low-income households. So, when an agency or school gives them money, there's not much thought. It says nothing about a lack of character. If anything, these schools and agencies are taking advantage of them.

March Madness made $900 million dollars last year and usually makes up 90% of the NCAA's yearly revenue.

Players get: 0

The NCAA is the best pimp game there is.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#388 » by nomorezorro » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:33 am

i don't come from a low income background and if you offered me $100,000 that was technically impermissible but not actually illegal and not even likely to get caught, then buddy, i'm gonna take that money too
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#389 » by Red Larrivee » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:37 am

nomorezorro wrote:i don't come from a low income background and if you offered me $100,000 that was technically impermissible but not actually illegal and not even likely to get caught, then buddy, i'm gonna take that money too


Exactly. These are high school kids. Most of them are not going to turn down $100K.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#390 » by The Box Office » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:01 am

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The Box Office wrote:Ayton is not my number 1 anymore after this. I wouldn't draft him if he was still available when we pick. After experiencing Derrick Rose and his Memphis crap, no thanks to Ayton. The Basketball Gods have a way of ending stuff. Doncic is my number one now.


Every elite collegiate recruit you ever liked in football or basketball, this was their story. The NBA won’t give a **** that Ayton took $ and neither will I.


Ok. Those guys didn't have the FBI up the @$$ with wiretaps. It usually ends up with "he said, she said" with no real proof. If the FBI didn't have legit evidence against Ayton then I wouldn't care either. But they do.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#391 » by The Box Office » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:20 am

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DuckIII wrote:Every elite collegiate recruit you ever liked in football or basketball, this was their story. The NBA won’t give a **** that Ayton took $ and neither will I.


Yep. There's no way you can blame kids for taking money that's practically thrown at them. I don't know Ayton's background, but a good amount of top recruits come (or used to) from low-income households. So, when an agency or school gives them money, there's not much thought. It says nothing about a lack of character. If anything, these schools and agencies are taking advantage of them.

March Madness made $900 million dollars last year and usually makes up 90% of the NCAA's yearly revenue.

Players get: 0

The NCAA is the best pimp game there is.


Hell yeah. At his age, I probably take the money, too. But here's the thing. I'm going against the NCAA and their rules. And they will find out one way or another just like what they did with Ayton. NCAA is friggin' good with this.

Yes, the NBA doesn't care. Duh. But, I don't want this crap talked constantly over and over if I chose him. I'll be questioned time and time again until I puke. The media will question Ayton like crazy. Too many distractions. It's not worth it.

"Why you take the money? Why? Why? What made you draft him knowing this about him?" Then Ayton might be a bust as well.

We are not getting the number one pick anyway. But if we do, I rather take Doncic, Porter, or Bagley.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#392 » by NADROJ » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:29 am

Every good NCAA team cheats, the best cheat the most, the best players get paid illegally, they all should get paid legally, the NCAA as an institution needs to be abolished, and I'll be Benny The Bull at Ayton's O'Hare Airport arrival.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#393 » by pipfan » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:37 am

I don't think they should be paid.

BUT-I think the NBA should offer much better GLeague salaries.

I was a walk on in the big ten-the cheating was bad, but so was the fact that the players (except for one) were not real students. That's when I got turned off to college sports. We had a guy on our team who got a 6 on his ACT-why was he at my school?
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Post#394 » by Red Larrivee » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:06 am

The Box Office wrote:
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DuckIII wrote:Every elite collegiate recruit you ever liked in football or basketball, this was their story. The NBA won’t give a **** that Ayton took $ and neither will I.


Yep. There's no way you can blame kids for taking money that's practically thrown at them. I don't know Ayton's background, but a good amount of top recruits come (or used to) from low-income households. So, when an agency or school gives them money, there's not much thought. It says nothing about a lack of character. If anything, these schools and agencies are taking advantage of them.

March Madness made $900 million dollars last year and usually makes up 90% of the NCAA's yearly revenue.

Players get: 0

The NCAA is the best pimp game there is.


Hell yeah. At his age, I probably take the money, too. But here's the thing. I'm going against the NCAA and their rules. And they will find out one way or another just like what they did with Ayton. NCAA is friggin' good with this.

Yes, the NBA doesn't care. Duh. But, I don't want this crap talked constantly over and over if I chose him. I'll be questioned time and time again until I puke. The media will question Ayton like crazy. Too many distractions. It's not worth it.

"Why you take the money? Why? Why? What made you draft him knowing this about him?" Then Ayton might be a bust as well.

We are not getting the number one pick anyway. But if we do, I rather take Doncic, Porter, or Bagley.


I don't think it's a distraction once games start. This story won't even be relevant by then.

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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#395 » by The Box Office » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:06 am

pipfan wrote:I don't think they should be paid.

BUT-I think the NBA should offer much better GLeague salaries.

I was a walk on in the big ten-the cheating was bad, but so was the fact that the players (except for one) were not real students. That's when I got turned off to college sports. We had a guy on our team who got a 6 on his ACT-why was he at my school?


Yes, the curriculum is already SUPER easy for them. It was designed that way with decades of experience at crafting that. I have no problem with that. Hell yeah, I'd take that route. It's legal and I will not get in trouble. No cheating needed. Just work hard, play hard. Watch porn hub and play some more ball, get some college puss. No harm.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#396 » by NADROJ » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:20 am

The Box Office wrote:
pipfan wrote:I don't think they should be paid.

BUT-I think the NBA should offer much better GLeague salaries.

I was a walk on in the big ten-the cheating was bad, but so was the fact that the players (except for one) were not real students. That's when I got turned off to college sports. We had a guy on our team who got a 6 on his ACT-why was he at my school?


Yes, the curriculum is already SUPER easy for them. It was designed that way with decades of experience at crafting that. I have no problem with that. Hell yeah, I'd take that route. It's legal and I will not get in trouble. No cheating needed. Just work hard, play hard. Watch porn hub and play some more ball, get some college puss. No harm.


In conjunction with them getting paid, for decades; hate the NCAA, not the player.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#397 » by Red Larrivee » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:17 am

pipfan wrote:I don't think they should be paid.

BUT-I think the NBA should offer much better GLeague salaries.

I was a walk on in the big ten-the cheating was bad, but so was the fact that the players (except for one) were not real students. That's when I got turned off to college sports. We had a guy on our team who got a 6 on his ACT-why was he at my school?


It was amusing how student athletes are handled in college. Some of them have tutors who will practically do the work for them. And that's on top of taking a BS major.
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Post#398 » by Hangtime84 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:39 am

If we are in position to draft Luka. I'm all for trading Dunn.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#399 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:42 am

The Box Office wrote:Ayton is not my number 1 anymore after this. I wouldn't draft him if he was still available when we pick. After experiencing Derrick Rose and his Memphis crap, no thanks to Ayton. The Basketball Gods have a way of ending stuff. Doncic is my number one now.


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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#400 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:15 am

DuckIII wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:In other news, Trae Young got his swagger back.


Watching it. Still don’t want to waste a draft pick on him. Bust potential is enormous. Not guaranteed, but obvious.


He’s probably my least favorite of the Big 7. But if he’s the only one left on the board when we pick, I’d draft him without thinking twice.
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