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Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason?

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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#21 » by ric munchn » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:37 pm

ermocrate wrote:Look, we have 2 top 25 players in the NBA(and one that is at least top 100), 2 top 25 young talents in the NBA, why would we blow this up for a talented big man with health issue and no charisma? When we traded for Garnett he was a Top 5 NBA player and a Top 3 charismatic player in the game, we only had PP, Ray, a talented big man(with a glaring hole in his game) and a bunch of scrubs, we needed KG like AIR. Now we need a piece BUT we are in the position to wait until a big fat occasion come along, why hurry? Our oldest bulding block is 1 year older than Kawhi and 2 years older than AD, also Kawhi hasn't become a star until his 4th/5th year, Jaylen is in thye same path with similar qualities, there's no reason to trade, we can simply wait until AL's contyract come off the books and sign another MAX player (since all of our 4 top player will be under the same contract they have now).

That’s only true if Kyrie opts in which would mean he is hurt or something. I do kind of like the idea of keeping the team intact. I’m a homer though I’ll always like what we do and convince myself it’s good just like the Tatum trade. Especially with the track record. If it doesn’t work I’ll make excuses lol
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#22 » by titlebound1 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:47 pm

Jaylen strikes me as the type who will leave as soon as he's an UFA. Obviously we're still years away from that. But money will start becoming an issue very soon. If we're going to move Brown, this would be the summer to do it
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#23 » by 31to6 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:11 pm

T-Ro is our only untouchable player (/greenfont)

But Danny's shown he's very 'handsy' as a GM, so this term doesn't apply in BOS.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#24 » by Homerclease » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:15 pm

History has proven that nobody is untouchable. The more Brown and Tatum play and improve, the higher each of their trade values become. I’m one of the believers that Brown has just scratched the surface of what he can really do
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#25 » by Afam » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:52 pm

No. No one is untouchable. No one is untouchable when it comes to making the team better. Kyrie Irving might be the only, close to being untouchable, and even that is debatable.

Anthony Davis, and Kawhi Leonard are star players, and you give up Jaylen Brown, and Jayson Tatum without thinking twice about it.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#26 » by Big Baby » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:30 pm

titlebound1 wrote:Jaylen strikes me as the type who will leave as soon as he's an UFA. Obviously we're still years away from that. But money will start becoming an issue very soon. If we're going to move Brown, this would be the summer to do it


He strikes me as the opposite. I think Jaylen enjoys being a Celtic as much as IT did. He seemed visibly shaken by the way we raised PP’s jersey to the rafters. And being a typical Berkeley guy, of course he embraces Boston.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#27 » by Taget » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:32 pm

Not even Austin Ainge is untouchable. Danny would trade anyone.

What it does mean is the return you would get for him increases.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#28 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:54 pm

Related what-if: (And people will laugh at me for even considering the possibility)... WHAT IF the Celtics reach the Finals without Hayward and have a very competitive 5- or 6-game series against the Dubs? Do the Cs still upgrade their wing position by giving up multiple assets when they can just make another leap via internal growth / continuity, addition of Hayward, and improving the bench?
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#29 » by jmr07019 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:03 pm

Davis isn't happening this off season so only Kawhi makes sense. Who else would we trade Brown For?
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Post#30 » by 31to6 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:04 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Related what-if: (And people will laugh at me for even considering the possibility)... WHAT IF the Celtics reach the Finals without Hayward and have a very competitive 5- or 6-game series against the Dubs? Do the Cs still upgrade their wing position by giving up multiple assets when they can just make another leap via internal growth / continuity, addition of Hayward, and improving the bench?


No, but we continue to dream of trading just about anyone for AD.
Also I don't laugh at you for considering the possibility, but it's extremely unlikely.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#31 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:27 pm

You can't imply that Jaylen Brown is untouchable but then make mention of the Celtics trying to trade for Anthony Davis. The mere fact that we're angling for the Brow means that NO ONE in the league is untouchable.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#32 » by Scarletfire81 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:06 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:You can't imply that Jaylen Brown is untouchable but then make mention of the Celtics trying to trade for Anthony Davis. The mere fact that we're angling for the Brow means that NO ONE in the league is untouchable.


I still don’t think AD is realistic, the Pelicans will just ride him out to the end of his contract. Second who cares what I think may happen, Ainge is the GM and may look at Jaylen as too valuable to trade, that’s my overall point. I think he would do everything not to include him aka Sacramento pick with Horford and other assets.
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Post#33 » by UHar_Vinnie » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:12 pm

Many/most people on this forum thought that Al Jefferson was untouchable in any deal . . . . until he was. Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, no one regrets that trade.

The ball is in Ainge's court; AD could be ours easily if he is willing to pay the price. How are they going to pass up on the 2019 Sacto pick + Tatum (or Jaylen) + another 1st (our 2018, our 2019, MEM 2019, LAC 2019, etc.) + useful players on salary match.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#34 » by Scarletfire81 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:15 pm

UHar_Vinnie wrote:Many/most people on this forum thought that Al Jefferson was untouchable in any deal . . . . until he was. Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, no one regrets that trade.



What about Joe Johnson for Tony Delk and Rodney Rogers?
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#35 » by UHar_Vinnie » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:25 pm

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UHar_Vinnie wrote:Many/most people on this forum thought that Al Jefferson was untouchable in any deal . . . . until he was. Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, no one regrets that trade.



What about Joe Johnson for Tony Delk and Rodney Rogers?


Yeah, that's exactly my point . . . . you trade a young stud only for a perennial All Star or a HOFer. . . . . Chris Wallace and Jim O'Brien didn't get that message.

But, to be fair, we had to pay a heavy price to move Milt "Miracle" Palacios and his massive $600K contract . . . . besides, hey, did you hear that Tony Delk once scored 50 points in a game, and Rodney Rogers once ate 50 cheeseburgers in one sitting?
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#36 » by chakdaddy » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:32 pm

BigTrade92 wrote:Jaylen is a sell high type of player. He has high boom/bust potential.

If you can get AD and keep Tatum while using Brown as the centerpiece, you do it every single time.


He had boom/bust potential. Seems more like boom/plateau by now. His floor is pretty high as a proven rotation guy already.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#37 » by ermocrate » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:12 pm

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ermocrate wrote:Look, we have 2 top 25 players in the NBA(and one that is at least top 100), 2 top 25 young talents in the NBA, why would we blow this up for a talented big man with health issue and no charisma? When we traded for Garnett he was a Top 5 NBA player and a Top 3 charismatic player in the game, we only had PP, Ray, a talented big man(with a glaring hole in his game) and a bunch of scrubs, we needed KG like AIR. Now we need a piece BUT we are in the position to wait until a big fat occasion come along, why hurry? Our oldest bulding block is 1 year older than Kawhi and 2 years older than AD, also Kawhi hasn't become a star until his 4th/5th year, Jaylen is in thye same path with similar qualities, there's no reason to trade, we can simply wait until AL's contyract come off the books and sign another MAX player (since all of our 4 top player will be under the same contract they have now).

That’s only true if Kyrie opts in which would mean he is hurt or something. I do kind of like the idea of keeping the team intact. I’m a homer though I’ll always like what we do and convince myself it’s good just like the Tatum trade. Especially with the track record. If it doesn’t work I’ll make excuses lol

Did you think the KI will not stay at ONLY 21 mill if he knows we can net a big fish?
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#38 » by ric munchn » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:15 pm

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ermocrate wrote:Look, we have 2 top 25 players in the NBA(and one that is at least top 100), 2 top 25 young talents in the NBA, why would we blow this up for a talented big man with health issue and no charisma? When we traded for Garnett he was a Top 5 NBA player and a Top 3 charismatic player in the game, we only had PP, Ray, a talented big man(with a glaring hole in his game) and a bunch of scrubs, we needed KG like AIR. Now we need a piece BUT we are in the position to wait until a big fat occasion come along, why hurry? Our oldest bulding block is 1 year older than Kawhi and 2 years older than AD, also Kawhi hasn't become a star until his 4th/5th year, Jaylen is in thye same path with similar qualities, there's no reason to trade, we can simply wait until AL's contyract come off the books and sign another MAX player (since all of our 4 top player will be under the same contract they have now).

That’s only true if Kyrie opts in which would mean he is hurt or something. I do kind of like the idea of keeping the team intact. I’m a homer though I’ll always like what we do and convince myself it’s good just like the Tatum trade. Especially with the track record. If it doesn’t work I’ll make excuses lol

Did you think the KI will not stay at ONLY 21 mill if he knows we can net a big fish?


I'm thinking he opts out for sure and takes the money. Why wouldn't he? He can get it and has an injury history. I see what you are saying and we can hope but I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#39 » by ermocrate » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:18 pm

titlebound1 wrote:Jaylen strikes me as the type who will leave as soon as he's an UFA. Obviously we're still years away from that. But money will start becoming an issue very soon. If we're going to move Brown, this would be the summer to do it

So GS can manage to have 4 star and we can't? Anyway Brown will be UFA in 2021, 3 years from now.
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Re: Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason? 

Post#40 » by OldCeltics » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:19 pm

I'd trade both Brown and Tatum for Anthony Davis, but or another young super star, but not for anything less than that.

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