Jarrett Allen is Not a Wizard

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

But he could have been...



Milellie11, there is a certain player who was the first story on SportsCenter tonight.

Brooklyn acquired him.

We all learn in life. The Wizards need a young center right now. I am posting this in jest.



Jason Smith does a great job being a good teammate for the Wizards. He is always ready to play. He's very enthusiastic. He might like to be playing somewhere. Scott Brooks might not want to use Smith.

Roster construction might be better if Jarett Allen is in Jason Smith's place.

Salary cap would be a lot better.

I love what the Wizards are doing and they have a talented roster full of good guys!

PS --Please go back and see what we said the day Ernie Grunfeld signed both Andrew Nicholson and Jason Smith. (Very similar to what I said when he signed both Kris Humphries and DeJuan Blair). The #22 pick was traded away (perhaps to rectify some salary problems created by signing Nicholson!!). Hindsight can be very instructive.

.... Check my posts out about Jarett Allen; the player the Wizards could have drafted who instead went to Brooklyn.

[FAH1223]

Our 2017 1st round pick

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[TheBabyMaker]

Our 2017 1st round pick

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Just Wow.

[nate33]

He had 18 points 9 boards, 3 blocks and 2 assists on 8/11 shooting in just 23 minutes in a blowout win. If he had played at that rate for 36 minutes, it would have been 27/12/4.

[nate33]

It really is a sad when you think about what could have been. If EG simply did nothing after losing out on the Horford bidding war, we would have the same team right now except with Jarret Allen in place of Mahinmi; and we wouldn't have Mahinmi or Jason Smith on the books, giving us an additional $19M in luxtax breathing room. That would have solved our two long term concerns: salary structure and a big for the future. We would be secure in knowing that the core of Wall, Beal, Sato, Oubre, Porter and Allen would be locked up for the next 4 years.

[queridiculo]

It really is a sad when you think about what could have been. If EG simply did nothing after losing out on the Horford bidding war, we would have the same team right now except with Jarret Allen in place of Mahinmi; and we wouldn't have Mahinmi or Jason Smith on the books, giving us an additional $19M in luxtax breathing room. That would have solved our two long term concerns: salary structure and a big for the future. We would be secure in knowing that the core of Wall, Beal, Sato, Oubre, Porter and Allen would be locked up for the next 4 years.

It blows the mind how EG still has a job.

Ernie's 2016 offseason combined with the Nicholson salary dump has to rank up there with some of the worst GMing over the past 10 years.

When the Wizards struck on tier 1 free agents that should have been the end of it just like you said, where was the voice of reason in our front office?

Instead of throwing away picks to dump contracts they could have been a buyer accumulating assets to eat bad deals.

It's not even a stretch to suggest that Allen would have been our pick, he fit exactly what we needed at the time and he'd been mentioned as an option by many posters, myself included.

[closg00]

Ernie “panic” Grunfeld, we all saw it coming, but this is an established pattern that he has. Allen is MUCH better as a red shirt than many many young Centers that were drafted and needed years and years of development. We can only hope that we get someone nearly as-good in the draft.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

It really is a sad when you think about what could have been. If EG simply did nothing after losing out on the Horford bidding war, we would have the same team right now except with Jarret Allen in place of Mahinmi; and we wouldn't have Mahinmi or Jason Smith on the books, giving us an additional $19M in luxtax breathing room. That would have solved our two long term concerns: salary structure and a big for the future. We would be secure in knowing that the core of Wall, Beal, Sato, Oubre, Porter and Allen would be locked up for the next 4 years.

I choose to be optimistic and see what is, not what might have been. Championship level might one day be attained simply by understanding past mistakes and not making them in the present.

If EG simply did ...

You are on point, nate33.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

(I wonder who their Coach at Texas thinks is better between Jarrett Allen and Mo Bamba.)

The 2018 consensus mock drafts rate Bamba fifteen to twenty selections higher than 2017 mocks rated Allen.

Do you agree?

Decision makers make decisions.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

[Jarrett Allen] had 18 points 9 boards, 3 blocks and 2 assists on 8/11 shooting in just 23 minutes in a blowout win. If he had played at that rate for 36 minutes, it would have been 27/12/4.

Is Bamba going to put numbers like these next season? Better? Or, might he be similar to Nerlens Noel?

None of that really matters I just wanted to point out that Jarrett Allen is not a Wizard. He MIGHT HAVE BEEN if others had a better understanding.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I'm not bashing Ernie.

This thread is intended to be illusory.

Who is privy as to why the Wizards decide what they do? Not me.

They know all I want to do is help the team win. I try to judge the talent and make some suggestions and that's all.


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[zero2hero]

[Jarrett Allen] had 18 points 9 boards, 3 blocks and 2 assists on 8/11 shooting in just 23 minutes in a blowout win. If he had played at that rate for 36 minutes, it would have been 27/12/4.

Is Bamba going to put numbers like these next season? Better? Or, might he be similar to Nerlens Noel?

None of that really matters I just wanted to point out that Jarrett Allen is not a Wizard. He MIGHT HAVE BEEN if others had a better understanding.

(I wonder who their Coach at Texas thinks is better between Jarrett Allen and Mo Bamba.)

The 2018 consensus mock drafts rate Bamba fifteen to twenty selections higher than 2017 mocks rated Allen.

Do you agree?

Decision makers make decisions.

Jarrett Allen was the more polished college player, and it shows right now in the pros, but Bamba has cant-miss athleticism. I mean, a 7'9 wingspan with crazy athleticism is something you can't pass up.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

(I wonder who their Coach at Texas thinks is better between Jarrett Allen and Mo Bamba.)

The 2018 consensus mock drafts rate Bamba fifteen to twenty selections higher than 2017 mocks rated Allen.

Do you agree?

Decision makers make decisions.

Jarrett Allen was the more polished college player, and it shows right now in the pros, but Bamba has cant-miss athleticism. I mean, a 7'9 wingspan with crazy athleticism is something you can't pass up.

http://www.nba.com/draft/2017/prospects/jarrett_allen#/

Jarrett
Allen

Round 1, Pick 22

Drafted by: Brooklyn Nets

Position: C

Height/Weight: 6'10" / 235 lbs

School/Club: Texas

Status: Freshman

Birthday: April 20, 1998

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Synergy Stats: Jarrett Allen Scouting Report

About Jarrett Allen

Allen oozes potential. Evidence of it abounded in his only season of college basketball. Take the 19 rebounds he grabbed at Kansas, the frightening one-handed dunk against West Virginia, or the out-of-nowhere blocked shot against Baylor. The latter two plays were called by ESPN announcers as the dunk and block of the year in the Big 12. That’s open for debate, but Allen’s known commodity is the set of tools he brings to the game. In addition to his height, length and athletic ability, he’s an intelligent player who, if he takes advantage of the extra workout time he’ll have as a professional, could emerge as a premier big man.

Strengths

Elite athlete

Intelligent

Mobility

Nearly 7-6 wingspan

Huge hands

Good rebounder

Has midrange jumper

Weaknesses

Has to add size and strength

Poor free-throw shooter

Was turnover prone, but mental and physical maturity should help reduce miscues

Block rate should increase

NBA projection: Allen has been projected as a lottery pick.

[Error Afflalo]

Buffoon GM. Nuff said.

[payitforward]

But he could have been....

Sure, but why stop there?

What if our picks had been...

John Wall, Hassan Whiteside (2010)

Kawhi Leonard, Kenneth Faried, Chandler Parsons (or Isaiah Thomas) (2011)

Bradley Beal, Draymond Green, Kyle O'Quinn (2012)

Otto Porter, James Ennis (2013)

Gary Harris or Clint Capela, Jordan Clarkson (2014)

Kelly Oubre (2015)

Denzel Valentine (2016)

Jarrett Allen (2017)

Now, of course the above includes some hindsight (Hassan Whiteside, Isaiah Thomas, Clint Capela) & ignores the fact that better Leonard in 2011 probably & Green in 2012 would almost certainly have meant different pick positions going forward.

But it's still a hall of shame list of missed opportunities!

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Guess what?

Allen and Bamba were born (only) one month apart.

This April/May they respectively turn 20 years old. They are very much the same age.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

But he could have been....

Sure, but why stop there?

What if our picks had been...

John Wall, Hassan Whiteside (2010)

Kawhi Leonard, Kenneth Faried, Chandler Parsons (or Isaiah Thomas) (2011)

Bradley Beal, Draymond Green, Kyle O'Quinn (2012)

Otto Porter, James Ennis (2013)

Gary Harris or Clint Capela, Jordan Clarkson (2014)

Kelly Oubre (2015)

Denzel Valentine (2016)

Jarrett Allen (2017)

Now, of course the above includes some hindsight (Hassan Whiteside, Isaiah Thomas, Clint Capela) & ignores the fact that better Leonard in 2011 probably & Green in 2012 would almost certainly have meant different pick positions going forward.

But it's still a hall of shame list of missed opportunities!

Why stop there?

No need to pile on. I just wanted to point out this one thing about Jarett Allen.

--Trying to keep it positive. (+E)

+ Repesents a plus, positive sign
E stands for energy. (Theory of Relativity equation where E=MC**2)

I'm thinking math/physics ...high level w r t GM moves.

GOOD ENERGY......

Instead of bashing EG's body of work senselessly; how about we look at it with balance In fairness???

Ernie got MANY additions right. JUST LOOK AT THE LAST 12 GAMES AND SEE WHO'S CONTRIBUTING.... ERNIE DID ALL OF THAT.

He made some good moves!!!
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I like this team's roster now.

--Jarrett Allen provides (just) a teachable moment.
--Piling on turns sour and insults. No need.
--Higher level thinking is problem (solving) centred.
-- I'm looking forward.
--The best thing I can do is give this away.

****Others will make (even) better decisions in the future.***

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Buffoon GM. Nuff said.

Wrong.

Still GM. God is not finished with Ernie Grunfeld, yet, either. Ernie could win executive of the year IF/WHEN the Wizards win the NBA Finals.

People did not see the Wizards playing THIS WELL without John Wall.

I conceive thoughts despite/with Ernie. He's been in charge and the Wizards are GOOD. Ernie has resilient staying power. His roster is a not half bad; because they play great team defense (minus JW), the kill it shooting the ball, they pass and move off the ball... the "buffoon" gets props for this team heading into March 2018. He totally blew it not drafting Jarett Allen, but we have to look forward. Despite this it's all good ATM.

Vision

(Satoransky is a good starting point guard now I don't care what the rest of these people say)

[dangermouse]

Add Jarrett to the tally of "coulda, shoulda" players we werent able to draft thanks to Ernie G

[Kanyewest]

Although the Nets had the #1 pick but lost it since they traded it for KG/Pierce. And then proceeded to trade the Boston first rounder (Kuzma) and Lopez for Russell.