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[kennydorglas]

It's amazing how Gregg Marshall and Jay Wright can find those guys.
They do it with such consistency... cant imagine how they couldnt do it in the NBA.

Landry Shamet (#171 RSCI) Markis McDuffie (#193 RSCI)
Mikal Bridges (#97 RSCI) Donte DiVincenzo (#107 RSCI)

[bwgood77]

It's amazing how Gregg Marshall and Jay Wright can find those guys.
They do it with such consistency... cant imagine how they couldnt do it in the NBA.

Landry Shamet (#171 RSCI) Markis McDuffie (#193 RSCI)
Mikal Bridges (#97 RSCI) Donte DiVincenzo (#107 RSCI)

They are just great coaches who's players really play hard for them and leave it all on the court. I mean how high were Ron Baker and Fred Van Fleet? Tony Bennett gets a lot out of his players too.

[kennydorglas]

It's amazing how Gregg Marshall and Jay Wright can find those guys.
They do it with such consistency... cant imagine how they couldnt do it in the NBA.

Landry Shamet (#171 RSCI) Markis McDuffie (#193 RSCI)
Mikal Bridges (#97 RSCI) Donte DiVincenzo (#107 RSCI)

They are just great coaches who's players really play hard for them and leave it all on the court. I mean how high were Ron Baker and Fred Van Fleet? Tony Bennett gets a lot out of his players too.

Baker wasnt even ranked and VanVleet #131. WILD.

Josh Hart #97

Yeah, De'Andre Hunter is starting to get some buzz around Stepien's guys.
Brogdon #87 Anderson #47 and Joe Harris #127

[bwgood77]

It's amazing how Gregg Marshall and Jay Wright can find those guys.
They do it with such consistency... cant imagine how they couldnt do it in the NBA.

Landry Shamet (#171 RSCI) Markis McDuffie (#193 RSCI)
Mikal Bridges (#97 RSCI) Donte DiVincenzo (#107 RSCI)

They are just great coaches who's players really play hard for them and leave it all on the court. I mean how high were Ron Baker and Fred Van Fleet? Tony Bennett gets a lot out of his players too.

Baker wasnt even ranked and VanVleet #131. WILD.

Josh Hart #97

Yeah, De'Andre Hunter is starting to get some buzz around Stepien's guys.
Brogdon #87 Anderson #47 and Joe Harris #127

Baker and Van Vleet were the two best players on a team that was the 9 seed and knocked off a 1 seed and got to the final four and lost to eventual champion Louisville (who were the heavy favorites that year)...it was a close game too...72-68.

The next year they were undefeated and became the only team ever to go 35-0. Then they lost to Kentucky in the 2nd round...to of course much much more talented players.

That's why I've brought up Gregg Marshall before. Not sure if he'd be right for the NBA, but he is another coach like Brad Stevens who vastly overachieves given his talent he is able to recruit at a smaller school.

[kennydorglas]

They are just great coaches who's players really play hard for them and leave it all on the court. I mean how high were Ron Baker and Fred Van Fleet? Tony Bennett gets a lot out of his players too.

Baker wasnt even ranked and VanVleet #131. WILD.

Josh Hart #97

Yeah, De'Andre Hunter is starting to get some buzz around Stepien's guys.
Brogdon #87 Anderson #47 and Joe Harris #127

Baker and Van Vleet were the two best players on a team that was the 9 seed and knocked off a 1 seed and got to the final four and lost to eventual champion Louisville (who were the heavy favorites that year)...it was a close game too...72-68.

The next year they were undefeated and became the only team ever to go 35-0. Then they lost to Kentucky in the 2nd round...to of course much much more talented players.

That's why I've brought up Gregg Marshall before. Not sure if he'd be right for the NBA, but he is another coach like Brad Stevens who vastly overachieves given his talent he is able to recruit at a smaller school.

Would a NBA player accept his unorthodox type of training? It seems like his trainings are as hardcore as Thibs.
This is my only concern with him. I'd give a chance to any coach to overachieve in college.

[bwgood77]

Baker wasnt even ranked and VanVleet #131. WILD.

Josh Hart #97

Yeah, De'Andre Hunter is starting to get some buzz around Stepien's guys.
Brogdon #87 Anderson #47 and Joe Harris #127

Baker and Van Vleet were the two best players on a team that was the 9 seed and knocked off a 1 seed and got to the final four and lost to eventual champion Louisville (who were the heavy favorites that year)...it was a close game too...72-68.

The next year they were undefeated and became the only team ever to go 35-0. Then they lost to Kentucky in the 2nd round...to of course much much more talented players.

That's why I've brought up Gregg Marshall before. Not sure if he'd be right for the NBA, but he is another coach like Brad Stevens who vastly overachieves given his talent he is able to recruit at a smaller school.

Would a NBA player accept his unorthodox type of training? It seems like his trainings are as hardcore as Thibs.
This is my only concern with him. I'd give a chance to any coach to overachieve in college.

I don't know...I guess if they believed in him and truly wanted to leave it all out on the floor. I think a guy like Josh Jackson would.

[kennydorglas]

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[darealjuice]

Wow that dude is done if that story was fake. Talk about irresponsible journalism, how does ESPN even allow that story to run?

[bwgood77]

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There are so many angry UA fans tweeting about all of this. This guy Hansen has never liked Miller apparently because he used to have more inside access during Lute's era....and he's insinuating it was Bowen who Miller was talking about, though Bowen signed with Louisville before the wiretaps took place too.

Seems like people are just making stuff up now. Yahoo's Pat Forde says they went through all the documents available and there was nothing implicating Miller in anything, and they had a lot of stuff implicating a lot of people and programs.

[bwgood77]

Wow that dude is done if that story was fake. Talk about irresponsible journalism, how does ESPN even allow that story to run?

ESPN was probably just excited to get all the hits and to run something like that. The guy Schlabach probably thought it was true but his source was obviously someone who was criminally charged or his attorney with some sort of agenda and there was no way to verify the information since the wiretaps were sealed.

[Dr Manute]

Wow that dude is done if that story was fake. Talk about irresponsible journalism, how does ESPN even allow that story to run?

ESPN was probably just excited to get all the hits and to run something like that. The guy Schlabach probably thought it was true but his source was obviously someone who was criminally charged or his attorney with some sort of agenda and there was no way to verify the information since the wiretaps were sealed.

Fake News is nothing new for ESPN - I remember Chad Ford flat-out making rumors up for clicks. "My sources said, ......."

I could tell they were total BS when I heard them - then we would hear the interview with McD and find out Chad Ford (or his sources) just made the crap up. Disgusting! - reminds me of CNN now.

[bwgood77]

Wow that dude is done if that story was fake. Talk about irresponsible journalism, how does ESPN even allow that story to run?

ESPN was probably just excited to get all the hits and to run something like that. The guy Schlabach probably thought it was true but his source was obviously someone who was criminally charged or his attorney with some sort of agenda and there was no way to verify the information since the wiretaps were sealed.

Fake News is nothing new for ESPN - I remember Chad Ford flat-out making rumors up for clicks. "My sources said, ......."

I could tell they were total BS when I heard them - then we would hear the interview with McD and find out Chad Ford (or his sources) just made the crap up. Disgusting! - reminds me of CNN now.

And he even went back and changed his mock drafts after the drafts.

[oddity]

Anyone know if Michael Porter Jr is playing in an hour?

[bwgood77]

Since I posted that tweet with the college TPA's, I thought I'd see if they had historical college freshman TPA's. They did, so it appears that Young, who is atop of that list, would peg right in between Russell and Towns in this freshman list...

But his OPA side (offensive points added) at 229 would blow anyone on here away in that column.



Just noticed Josh Jackson scores very closely on both sides to Justise Winslow. I hope his career progresses better.

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[lilfishi22]

I only caught the start of the UofA story and the Ayton/$100k connection but can someone give me a quick summary of what this new twist in the story is about??

[oddity]

Update: MPJr not playing until at least saturday.

[bwgood77]

I only caught the start of the UofA story and the Ayton/$100k connection but can someone give me a quick summary of what this new twist in the story is about??

There are a lot of unknowns still and questions, but the gist is that a guy wrote a story about what is on fbi wiretaps but he obviously never heard them or saw a transcript of them because they are sealed. And everyone just initially believed him and people on espn college basketball on tv were all saying he should be fired, Ayton shouldn't play, AZ shouldn't play in the tourney, etc.

Emmert (NCAA president) came out the next day and said "We will let AZ do what they think is right, and you guy can decide for yourself if that ESPN report is credible....because we know none of that information came from the FBI".

Later it was mentioned that the only people who have access to the wiretaps are the FBI, and criminals previously charged (and their attorneys...and the prosecutors in any upcoming trial). So basically the source for the espn reporter was very likely one of the criminals charged or his attorney.

Also, the story said he was caught on the wiretap arranging payment to Ayton to secure him, yet the wiretaps were in place from June-Sept 17 and Ayton signed in fall of 16.

The Yahoo reporters who had a long detailed report with actual evidence and ledgers that some of the people working for the agents said...tons of players named (Wendell Carter, Josh Jackson even) said they never saw anything about Ayton and Miller and they had a lot of information.

There is no way for anyone to prove Miller knew or did anything or Ayton was involved in anything unless they get charged by authorities. ESPN has kind of gone silent.

I have posted some of the information I have come across here. viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1672946#p63762341

[bwgood77]

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Pretty ballsy in my book to put JJJ/Porter/Young ABOVE Ayton