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Who do you think will be the #1 overall pick?

Deandre Ayton
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32%
Luka Doncic
74
40%
Mohamed Bamba
4
2%
Marvin Bagley III
25
13%
Michael Porter Jr
20
11%
Other
4
2%
 
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#381 » by Gianstoppable » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:17 pm

bizarro wrote:I wonder if this is the year the Bucks actually buy into the 2nd round. They've already taken care of selling their pick - kudos to them for pre-emptively sticking to their organizational draft philosophy months ahead of time. But, man oh man, I always find 3-4 players I absolutely love in the 30-40 range.


Philly has 4 2nd rounder I believe. Hopefully they sell us one or two
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Post#382 » by Ruzious » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:27 pm

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bizarro wrote:I wonder if this is the year the Bucks actually buy into the 2nd round. They've already taken care of selling their pick - kudos to them for pre-emptively sticking to their organizational draft philosophy months ahead of time. But, man oh man, I always find 3-4 players I absolutely love in the 30-40 range.


Philly has 4 2nd rounder I believe. Hopefully they sell us one or two

I love that idea. Pick from Shake Milton, Keita Bates-Diop, Melvin Frazier, and Bonzi Colson.
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Post#383 » by emunney » Thu Mar 1, 2018 4:50 am

I assume Roger Murdock's not hyping up De'Andre Hunter because he hopes he'll stay in Charlottesville, but he's the most obvious future pro Tony Bennett's ever had.
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Post#384 » by Ruzious » Thu Mar 1, 2018 2:56 pm

Jontay Porter and Daniel Gafford are moving up my board for the Bucks first round pick.
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Post#385 » by SirChurros » Thu Mar 1, 2018 3:16 pm

I don't know how you get into the top 10, but Wendell Carter would look so good in a Bucks uniform. I'd trade up to try to get him.
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Post#386 » by emunney » Fri Mar 2, 2018 4:42 am

emunney wrote:I assume Roger Murdock's not hyping up De'Andre Hunter because he hopes he'll stay in Charlottesville, but he's the most obvious future pro Tony Bennett's ever had.


Dude banked in the GW 3 *tonight*.

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Post#387 » by Ruzious » Fri Mar 2, 2018 3:32 pm

emunney wrote:
emunney wrote:I assume Roger Murdock's not hyping up De'Andre Hunter because he hopes he'll stay in Charlottesville, but he's the most obvious future pro Tony Bennett's ever had.


Dude banked in the GW 3 *tonight*.

I watched just the last 2 minutes. Felt so bad for the Louisville players - winning that would have been the highlight of their season. They had it won... twice... unbelievable. One of the most brutal losses I've ever seen.
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Post#388 » by emunney » Fri Mar 2, 2018 5:12 pm

Ruzious wrote:
emunney wrote:
emunney wrote:I assume Roger Murdock's not hyping up De'Andre Hunter because he hopes he'll stay in Charlottesville, but he's the most obvious future pro Tony Bennett's ever had.


Dude banked in the GW 3 *tonight*.

I watched just the last 2 minutes. Felt so bad for the Louisville players - winning that would have been the highlight of their season. They had it won... twice... unbelievable. One of the most brutal losses I've ever seen.


Yeah, totally insane. As crazy as the Reggie Miller game but so self-inflicted.
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Post#389 » by LuessiT » Fri Mar 2, 2018 9:15 pm

JJJ foul rate isn't really improving so far. Could see him falling quite a bit - so far that it could be reasonable to trade up for him.
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Post#390 » by IrishRainbow » Sun Mar 4, 2018 5:46 pm

Yeah, we could do worse than a guy like Shamet. Cincy v Wichita St. on now.

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Post#391 » by VooDoo7 » Sun Mar 4, 2018 6:00 pm

IrishRainbow wrote:Yeah, we could do worse than a guy like Shamet. Cincy v Wichita St. on now.

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Love Shamet. We could definitely use that kind of shooting. Not to mention his playmaking. Someone like him (and even Sterling) makes Snell expendable. Hope we can unload him on some dumb GM this offseason.
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Post#392 » by Gianstoppable » Sun Mar 4, 2018 6:51 pm

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IrishRainbow wrote:Yeah, we could do worse than a guy like Shamet. Cincy v Wichita St. on now.

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Love Shamet. We could definitely use that kind of shooting. Not to mention his playmaking. Someone like him (and even Sterling) makes Snell expendable. Hope we can unload him on some dumb GM this offseason.


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Post#393 » by Finn » Mon Mar 5, 2018 12:19 am

Talk to me draft nerds (& I say that will all due respect). Does Muhammad Ali Abdur-Rahkman from MI have a chance to play in the NBA? Love that guy as a college player.
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Post#394 » by M-C-G » Mon Mar 5, 2018 6:15 pm

So this Kostja Mashidi guy looks pretty damn good, anyone who watches more euro ball add to the scouting report? Seems like a great defender and high IQ wing. Would be a great to our roster




Kostja Mushidi
Projected Draft Range: 2nd Round to Undrafted



Pros:

Adequate shooter from all over the floor

Decent scorer off the dribble

Excels at scoring on the move

Fairly good playmaker

Solid athlete



Cons:

Inconsistent shooter

Lacks an elite first step off the dribble

Struggles to go right

Can be turnover prone

Needs to improve his rebounding

Tends to have lapses defensively



Summary:

Kostja Mushidi is a tall, athletic combo guard that has an intriguing set of skills. He had a strong showing at the Nike Hoops Summit this year after having a promising, but uneven year in the Adriatic League, but so far his play has been rather disappointing this season.



Mushidi can make threes off the catch, and he has good form on his shot. He also excels at scoring on the move, as he can throw down an emphatic dunk on the break, as well as score off of put backs, but he will need to clean up his tendency to force the issue. Mushidi can play too wildly at times, which can lead to a lot of missed shots off the dribble, and quite a few careless turnovers with him trying to dribble too much in traffic.



Defensively, Mushidi possesses good physical tools, but he may still be a work in progress on that end of the floor. He has great vertical leaping skills, as he can leap up to block a shot from the blind side, and he has good hands that can allow him to collect steals. However, he can tend to have lapses at times, which can lead him to commit fouls and allow scores.



Currently, Mushidi is a versatile combo guard that may possess considerable upside. However, he will need to be a more consistent performer in games, and he has struggled considerably this year in the Adriatic League, as he has not shot the ball well nor played good defense this season. Currently, his draft stock is falling, as he may be a bubble second round candidate right now.
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Post#395 » by M-C-G » Mon Mar 5, 2018 6:22 pm

Super poor man Jokic? Goga Bitadze?




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October 14, 2017

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Mega Bemax’s 6-11, 1999-born center Goga Bitadze from the Republic of Georgia has played very well early this season in the Adriatic League. While his teammate Kostja Mushidi has been out due to an undisclosed injury (presumed to be a stress fracture), Bitadze has picked up the slack with his ability to score, rebound, and block shots.


With thanks to YouTube via ABA liga j.t.d., I was able to see Goga Bitadze and his team play against Crvena Zvezda in a match that was played on October 4th. In this game, Bitadze showed some interesting scoring skills, and he can rebound and block shots when he is in the paint, though his average athleticism and below average playmaking skills could potentially be a hindrance at the next level.


Bitadze really excels at scoring as a roll man on offense. He possesses a good motor as he will consistently roll hard to the hoop, and he can throw down emphatic dunks after getting the ball on the move. Plus, he also possesses good touch on his shot, as he can make a floater and other tough shots afterwards.



He also possesses a decent ability to knock down mid-range jump shots. Bitadze can frequently get open on pick and pop plays, and he can calmly knock those down when he has time to get his shot off. He may not always make them consistently, but his ability to make jumpers on pick and pop plays as well as score around the basket on rolls to the rim can make him tough to guard after he sets screens for his team, but he didn’t really do a good job of scoring in the post, however. Bitadze sometimes didn’t get deep position, and he did not always display great touch after looking to score on the block. He does possess fairly good footwork, though he would tend to take tough shots, as he would miss turnaround jumpers, as well as a reverse layup, but he did manage to make a floater after using a quick spin move from the post to get a score late in the game.



While Bitadze is active at looking to finish plays around the basket, he does not always play under control nor does he have much lift on his shot, which can lead to misses. He had a couple of shots blocked in traffic, and he also missed a few tip-ins. But he did score on one tip in after crashing the offensive glass, as he showed a good motor to get the bucket that time.



However, he appeared to display below average playmaking skills. He did make one good pass though, as he managed to pass the ball back to an open shooter on a dribble hand off once and set an on-ball screen to help his teammate score during the middle of the game, but Bitadze doesn’t look to pass often, and there was one play where he should have made the pass to an open shooter, but opted to try to drive in traffic, as he later missed the shot. He also tended to be inaccurate when he threw passes, which would lead to turnovers.



He also possesses a fairly good ability to rebound the basketball. Bitadze is active at hauling in boards on both ends of the floor, and he can get numerous boards in his area. However, he does not possess great athletic gifts, as he can have trouble to get rebounds in traffic or if they are just outside his reach, especially if he is matched up against more athletic players around him.



Plus, he may possess fairly average defensive skills. Bitadze is at his best when he is defending in the post, as he will position himself in spots where he can swat numerous shots around the basket. He has very good length and timing, and he excelled at blocking shots within the structure of his team’s defense, which appeared to be a mixture of both man and zone defense. He also will look to contest shots to force misses, and he also has the size, strength, and footwork to get numerous stops when defending the post.



However, he tends to struggle more when he is forced to defend out on the perimeter. He will tend to hang back too far on switches when defending screens, as this can lead to his opponents to knock down jumpers. He tends to rotate too slowly, and he also can struggle to guard his opponents on the move, as he allowed Lessort to throw down an emphatic dunk off of a roll later in this game due to being unable to get back to him in time after initially hedging on a screen.



Bitadze also tends to struggle to defend opponents on drives to the hoop. He does not possess great lateral quickness as he can get beat by quicker opponents, and he may not rotate quickly in time, which can lead him to commit fouls or allow scores. Other times, he may be called for touch fouls in the post, though those calls appeared to be questionable at best.



Right now, Goga Bitadze may be a second round prospect for the 2018 NBA Draft. He has played very well early on this season, but his average at best athleticism combined with possessing below average playmaking skills may put a ceiling on what type of player he can end up becoming in the NBA. But his offensive skills combined with his ability to block shots in the paint could make him an effective role player in the association if he continues to play well over time.

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Post#396 » by emunney » Mon Mar 5, 2018 6:28 pm

He's still really young and has decent all around physical tools, but it seems like as his body has matured, his skill level has regressed. He's still young enough that I think you could justify stashing him in the back half of the 2nd round, but I'd say he's a fringe prospect at this point. I wouldn't think he'd declare.
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Post#397 » by LuessiT » Mon Mar 5, 2018 7:53 pm

M-C-G wrote:So this Kostja Mashidi guy looks pretty damn good, anyone who watches more euro ball add to the scouting report? Seems like a great defender and high IQ wing. Would be a great to our roster




Kostja Mushidi
Projected Draft Range: 2nd Round to Undrafted



Pros:

Adequate shooter from all over the floor

Decent scorer off the dribble

Excels at scoring on the move

Fairly good playmaker

Solid athlete



Cons:

Inconsistent shooter

Lacks an elite first step off the dribble

Struggles to go right

Can be turnover prone

Needs to improve his rebounding

Tends to have lapses defensively



Summary:

Kostja Mushidi is a tall, athletic combo guard that has an intriguing set of skills. He had a strong showing at the Nike Hoops Summit this year after having a promising, but uneven year in the Adriatic League, but so far his play has been rather disappointing this season.



Mushidi can make threes off the catch, and he has good form on his shot. He also excels at scoring on the move, as he can throw down an emphatic dunk on the break, as well as score off of put backs, but he will need to clean up his tendency to force the issue. Mushidi can play too wildly at times, which can lead to a lot of missed shots off the dribble, and quite a few careless turnovers with him trying to dribble too much in traffic.



Defensively, Mushidi possesses good physical tools, but he may still be a work in progress on that end of the floor. He has great vertical leaping skills, as he can leap up to block a shot from the blind side, and he has good hands that can allow him to collect steals. However, he can tend to have lapses at times, which can lead him to commit fouls and allow scores.



Currently, Mushidi is a versatile combo guard that may possess considerable upside. However, he will need to be a more consistent performer in games, and he has struggled considerably this year in the Adriatic League, as he has not shot the ball well nor played good defense this season. Currently, his draft stock is falling, as he may be a bubble second round candidate right now.


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Post#398 » by LuessiT » Mon Mar 5, 2018 8:50 pm

M-C-G wrote:So this Kostja Mashidi guy looks pretty damn good, anyone who watches more euro ball add to the scouting report? Seems like a great defender and high IQ wing. Would be a great to our roster




Kostja Mushidi
Projected Draft Range: 2nd Round to Undrafted



Pros:

Adequate shooter from all over the floor

Decent scorer off the dribble

Excels at scoring on the move

Fairly good playmaker

Solid athlete



Cons:

Inconsistent shooter

Lacks an elite first step off the dribble

Struggles to go right

Can be turnover prone

Needs to improve his rebounding

Tends to have lapses defensively



Summary:

Kostja Mushidi is a tall, athletic combo guard that has an intriguing set of skills. He had a strong showing at the Nike Hoops Summit this year after having a promising, but uneven year in the Adriatic League, but so far his play has been rather disappointing this season.



Mushidi can make threes off the catch, and he has good form on his shot. He also excels at scoring on the move, as he can throw down an emphatic dunk on the break, as well as score off of put backs, but he will need to clean up his tendency to force the issue. Mushidi can play too wildly at times, which can lead to a lot of missed shots off the dribble, and quite a few careless turnovers with him trying to dribble too much in traffic.



Defensively, Mushidi possesses good physical tools, but he may still be a work in progress on that end of the floor. He has great vertical leaping skills, as he can leap up to block a shot from the blind side, and he has good hands that can allow him to collect steals. However, he can tend to have lapses at times, which can lead him to commit fouls and allow scores.



Currently, Mushidi is a versatile combo guard that may possess considerable upside. However, he will need to be a more consistent performer in games, and he has struggled considerably this year in the Adriatic League, as he has not shot the ball well nor played good defense this season. Currently, his draft stock is falling, as he may be a bubble second round candidate right now.


Mushidi has a lot of tools, but currently doesn't have a single NBA-level skill.
He's improved his body a lot and should be ready to absorb contact, but due to the added mass he lost his explosiveness. His form is definately workable, but he doesn't always go through the same routine and so far just can't reach high enough percentages. He has the ability to shoot of the dribble, but again that shot isn't falling for him in a frequency that would make it any threat. He can drive to the rim and absorb contact with his frame, but his first step will let him down at the next level. He definately has potential to some day handle the ball but that is also a few years down the road. He's got long arms and solid athleticism with a fairly developed frame, but gets lost off the ball on defense and doesn't move his feet as well as you'd hope.
All in all I don't doubt that Mushidi some day will stick in the NBA. He's just got so many skills that could translate and he's got an excellent work ethic and the desire to be a pro. He's going to be pretty unplayable in his first few years though. And it looks like he wants to come over straight away - so no draft and stash. Which means you either have to commit to him long term or you're wasting a pick on someone who most likely will come online in his mid 20's - long after his rookie deal.
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Post#399 » by German Athens » Mon Mar 5, 2018 9:46 pm

Do you guys think charlotte would be interested in middleton at the draft? Something like zeller and their 1st for middleton.
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Post#400 » by Badgerlander » Mon Mar 5, 2018 11:39 pm

M-C-G wrote:So this Kostja Mashidi guy looks pretty damn good, anyone who watches more euro ball add to the scouting report? Seems like a great defender and high IQ wing. Would be a great to our roster


Been talking about him for two years, similar size and skill set to a young lance Stephenson. Played well with limited touches at the Nike hoop summit
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