Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
Moderators: Rich Rane, NyCeEvO
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
- shakendfries
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 3,886
- And1: 1,063
- Joined: Jun 24, 2015
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
I don’t think all the exposition is necessary MDB. 13th routinely corners herself by detailing hypocritical viewpoints, and when someone points out the hypocrisy or inherent bias of these viewpoints, he cowers from addressing the counter argument, portrays himself as a victim for being considered a bigot, and goes off on a tangent about liberals. These are the actions of a coward who doesn’t respect the nature of discourse.
This board is actually pretty diverse in viewpoints if you go back and check the receipts of the posts in this thread. Partisanship is usually thrown aside, in favor of a more rational approach to national events. The issue with debating someone who refuses to reconsider their own position is that they’re often to closed minded to admit their own misconceptions to themselves.
If one takes issue with being considered a bigot, why isn’t there ever an investigation of why their perspective is perceived by others as bigoted?
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
This board is actually pretty diverse in viewpoints if you go back and check the receipts of the posts in this thread. Partisanship is usually thrown aside, in favor of a more rational approach to national events. The issue with debating someone who refuses to reconsider their own position is that they’re often to closed minded to admit their own misconceptions to themselves.
If one takes issue with being considered a bigot, why isn’t there ever an investigation of why their perspective is perceived by others as bigoted?
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums


"Kevin Durant is not coming to the Nets. If I'm wrong, I will change my avatar to anything you request no matter how humiliating it is." - MrDollarBills, 10/22/18
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
-
13th Man
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,936
- And1: 6,118
- Joined: Feb 12, 2012
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
shakendfries wrote:I don’t think all the exposition is necessary MDB. 13th routinely corners herself by detailing hypocritical viewpoints, and when someone points out the hypocrisy or inherent bias of these viewpoints, he cowers from addressing the counter argument, portrays himself as a victim for being considered a bigot, and goes off on a tangent about liberals. These are the actions of a coward who doesn’t respect the nature of discourse.
This board is actually pretty diverse in viewpoints if you go back and check the receipts of the posts in this thread. Partisanship is usually thrown aside, in favor of a more rational approach to national events. The issue with debating someone who refuses to reconsider their own position is that they’re often to closed minded to admit their own misconceptions to themselves.
If one takes issue with being considered a bigot, why isn’t there ever an investigation of why their perspective is perceived by others as bigoted?
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
How ironic that you would chime in on this as I think you were the one originally accusing me of being a racist.
I don't play the victim, I just don't think its fair for you guys to make everything out to be about race and take it out on me when I've clearly defended my views otherwise. It's a sad state to be in when you attribute everything to race and think that anybody that sides with the right is a racist. I knew America was divided and it makes me glad that I don't have to deal with this mentality on a daily basis. As I mentioned to you guys before, I help people of different culture and race every single day; dozens of them. I think this counts more than being sheltered and hating on people because you think that everyone is against you.
Ftr, I am against criminals and scumbags of every race. If I hate on a demographic of criminals, that does not make me a racist, I'm an equal opportunity hater when it comes to criminals. When I worked for the Police Department I took great pleasure in helping to put scumbags of my own race into prison.
This board isn't diverse of viewpoints, it's 90% liberal, even amongst the Lin fans that are here. That's not surprising me to since most fans of celebrities and of sports entertainment are left leaning. I'm not a fan of celebrities since they are all too far gone, and hence why I prefer for the athletes to stick to what they're good at.
I'm just here to offer a different perspective which I consider to be normal in America since you guys did elect Trump as President, but you guys seem to think that they are inhumane and a detriment to society. *shrug*
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
-
13th Man
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,936
- And1: 6,118
- Joined: Feb 12, 2012
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:13th Man wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
says the person who ran when confronted about his own god awful political views.
Are you referring to me? MDB, please tone down on the character attacks, this is not appreciated nor should be tolerated on this forum. First you accuse me of being a racist with no proof except for the fact that I stand by people like Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro. This is a bannable offense and actually supports my point that anybody that does not side with your views are automatically painted alt-right or racist. That is not fair nor tolerable. I've had to repeatedly defend my views that much have very little to do with race but since you're so absorbed in this narrative, everything has to boil down to race, which makes one wonder who really is the racist one here??
While I agree with you that many people are too quick to bring up race or call someone racist, that doesn’t change the fact that your ideology is not only inhumane but abhorrent, detrimental to society and fueled by Fox News propaganda/delusions. You are the right wing equivalent of the hordes of Rachel Maddow followers who take her blatant speculation and peddle it as fact.
The mindset of people go in waves and are largely set by the narrative pushed by government and by the media. The cucks that are in university today were brainwashed in large by the Obama administration and PC culture. Once they hit the real world, unless they work for Google, Facebook, Amazon or Starbucks where they are pampered and protected by safe spaces, they will quickly realize how the real world does not put up with their crying and victimhood mentality. They will realize that blaming others is not the solution, rather that they'll have to take responsibility for their own actions.
The kids in elementary school today will grow up rebelling against the PC culture. This is why Trump is good for the country, to revert the cuck culture back to normalcy.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
- Rich Rane
- Senior Mod - Nets

- Posts: 36,963
- And1: 15,637
- Joined: Jun 29, 2005
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
13th Man wrote:The mindset of people go in waves and are largely set by the narrative pushed by government and by the media. The cucks that are in university today were brainwashed in large by the Obama administration and PC culture. Once they hit the real world, unless they work for Google, Facebook, Amazon or Starbucks where they are pampered and protected by safe spaces, they will quickly realize how the real world does not put up with their crying and victimhood mentality. They will realize that blaming others is not the solution, rather that they'll have to take responsibility for their own actions.
The kids in elementary school today will grow up rebelling against the PC culture. This is why Trump is good for the country, to revert the cuck culture back to normalcy.
For the record, can you tell us what you, or the wonderful conservative world, believe the word "cuck" is?
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
- shakendfries
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 3,886
- And1: 1,063
- Joined: Jun 24, 2015
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
Why do you give credence to Trump’s presidency? Is he not a celebrity with no political experience?
This is the hypocrisy that’s been exposed. You’re only using this argument out of convenience.
Furthermore, this argument ‘athletes should just stick to sports’ does have racial implications, given its historical and selective application in the United States national dialogue by whites to shut down Muhammad Ali, Tommie Smith, & John Carlos when they spoke up on injustice. To argue stick to sports is to argue against the movements they spoke towards.
Additionally, you never addressed who is allowed to speak on politics? Most talking heads have no political experience outside of talking. As a matter of fact, they’re just like you or anyone else on this board. Why do you feel your opinion more valuable than anyone else’s? Are you infallible?
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
This is the hypocrisy that’s been exposed. You’re only using this argument out of convenience.
Furthermore, this argument ‘athletes should just stick to sports’ does have racial implications, given its historical and selective application in the United States national dialogue by whites to shut down Muhammad Ali, Tommie Smith, & John Carlos when they spoke up on injustice. To argue stick to sports is to argue against the movements they spoke towards.
Additionally, you never addressed who is allowed to speak on politics? Most talking heads have no political experience outside of talking. As a matter of fact, they’re just like you or anyone else on this board. Why do you feel your opinion more valuable than anyone else’s? Are you infallible?
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums


"Kevin Durant is not coming to the Nets. If I'm wrong, I will change my avatar to anything you request no matter how humiliating it is." - MrDollarBills, 10/22/18
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
-
13th Man
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,936
- And1: 6,118
- Joined: Feb 12, 2012
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
Rich Rane wrote:13th Man wrote:The mindset of people go in waves and are largely set by the narrative pushed by government and by the media. The cucks that are in university today were brainwashed in large by the Obama administration and PC culture. Once they hit the real world, unless they work for Google, Facebook, Amazon or Starbucks where they are pampered and protected by safe spaces, they will quickly realize how the real world does not put up with their crying and victimhood mentality. They will realize that blaming others is not the solution, rather that they'll have to take responsibility for their own actions.
The kids in elementary school today will grow up rebelling against the PC culture. This is why Trump is good for the country, to revert the cuck culture back to normalcy.
For the record, can you tell us what you, or the wonderful conservative world, believe the word "cuck" is?
I don't know, I just use that term loosely and don't really know its true definition. I don't think it's a racist slur, it's more someone who is weak minded and falls prey to the leftist agenda.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
- Rich Rane
- Senior Mod - Nets

- Posts: 36,963
- And1: 15,637
- Joined: Jun 29, 2005
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
13th Man wrote:Rich Rane wrote:13th Man wrote:The mindset of people go in waves and are largely set by the narrative pushed by government and by the media. The cucks that are in university today were brainwashed in large by the Obama administration and PC culture. Once they hit the real world, unless they work for Google, Facebook, Amazon or Starbucks where they are pampered and protected by safe spaces, they will quickly realize how the real world does not put up with their crying and victimhood mentality. They will realize that blaming others is not the solution, rather that they'll have to take responsibility for their own actions.
The kids in elementary school today will grow up rebelling against the PC culture. This is why Trump is good for the country, to revert the cuck culture back to normalcy.
For the record, can you tell us what you, or the wonderful conservative world, believe the word "cuck" is?
I don't know, I just use that term loosely and don't really know its true definition. I don't think it's a racist slur, it's more someone who is weak minded and falls prey to the leftist agenda.
"Cuck" actually has its roots from the word "cuckold", a husband whose wife is having an affair. Doesn't really have anything to do with liberal or conservative agendas or really politics in general, just a derogatory term I have no idea why is used and has gained popularity with the alt-right.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
- Rich Rane
- Senior Mod - Nets

- Posts: 36,963
- And1: 15,637
- Joined: Jun 29, 2005
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
-
13th Man
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,936
- And1: 6,118
- Joined: Feb 12, 2012
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
shakendfries wrote:Why do you give credence to Trump’s presidency? Is he not a celebrity with no political experience?
This is the hypocrisy that’s been exposed. You’re only using this argument out of convenience.
Furthermore, this argument ‘athletes should just stick to sports’ does have racial implications, given its historical and selective application in the United States national dialogue by whites to shut down Muhammad Ali, Tommie Smith, & John Carlos when they spoke up on injustice. To argue stick to sports is to argue against the movements they spoke towards.
Additionally, you never addressed who is allowed to speak on politics? Most talking heads have no political experience outside of talking. As a matter of fact, they’re just like you or anyone else on this board. Why do you feel your opinion more valuable than anyone else’s? Are you infallible?
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
I'm a fan of Trump because he is Alpha, unlike my cuck Prime Minister Trudeau. He is a celebrity but through his prowness in entrepreneurship, not via the typical Hollywood route.
Athletes should stick to sports because that's what they're paid to do and that's what people play money to watch them do. As I mentioned before, when I'm working at my day job or teach I never bring up my political views because I know that it's not appropriate to do so. My employer doesn't pay me to cause a shi!tstorm because that's what political discussion will do. You have half of the people on one side, and half on the other.
Furthermore I watch sports for pure entertainment, as an escape. I don't need to tune into a pre-game show to hear them rant about politics when you know that it's going to be clearly biased and one-sided. Simple as that, has nothing to do with race.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
-
13th Man
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,936
- And1: 6,118
- Joined: Feb 12, 2012
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
Rich Rane wrote:13th Man wrote:Rich Rane wrote:
For the record, can you tell us what you, or the wonderful conservative world, believe the word "cuck" is?
I don't know, I just use that term loosely and don't really know its true definition. I don't think it's a racist slur, it's more someone who is weak minded and falls prey to the leftist agenda.
"Cuck" actually has its roots from the word "cuckold", a husband whose wife is having an affair. Doesn't really have anything to do with liberal or conservative agendas or really politics in general, just a derogatory term I have no idea why is used and has gained popularity with the alt-right.
Ok thanks. It just sounds good to me, as an alternative to snowflake. But I will stop using it if is truly offensive to people.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
- Rich Rane
- Senior Mod - Nets

- Posts: 36,963
- And1: 15,637
- Joined: Jun 29, 2005
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
13th Man wrote:Athletes should stick to sports because that's what they're paid to do and that's what people play money to watch them do. As I mentioned before, when I'm working at my day job or teach I never bring up my political views because I know that it's not appropriate to do so. My employer doesn't pay me to cause a shi!tstorm because that's what political discussion will do. You have half of the people on one side, and half on the other.
That's pretty much what athletes have been doing. They've been doing this on their time. It's not as if Chris Long gets a sack and talks to the camera about his political views. Or LeBron dunking on the break and then pulling his phone out to tweet. Or Pop during a timeout making crude drawings of Trump when he's supposed to be drawing up a play in the huddle.
Furthermore I watch sports for pure entertainment, as an escape. I don't need to tune into a pre-game show to hear them rant about politics when you know that it's going to be clearly biased and one-sided. Simple as that, has nothing to do with race.
You don't have to watch the pregame. I sure as hell don't and my political views align with many of these athletes.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
- Rich Rane
- Senior Mod - Nets

- Posts: 36,963
- And1: 15,637
- Joined: Jun 29, 2005
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
13th Man wrote:Rich Rane wrote:13th Man wrote:
I don't know, I just use that term loosely and don't really know its true definition. I don't think it's a racist slur, it's more someone who is weak minded and falls prey to the leftist agenda.
"Cuck" actually has its roots from the word "cuckold", a husband whose wife is having an affair. Doesn't really have anything to do with liberal or conservative agendas or really politics in general, just a derogatory term I have no idea why is used and has gained popularity with the alt-right.
Ok thanks. It just sounds good to me, as an alternative to snowflake. But I will stop using it if is truly offensive to people.
I don't personally find it offensive, I just don't think the alt-right, the people that have been using it the most, has been using it correctly, which kinda says a lot about the alt-right.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
-
Roy Tarpley
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,888
- And1: 987
- Joined: Jul 06, 2015
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
13th man - you're giving Lin fans a bad name. Please, please, stop.
And your use of words like alpha and cucks make you sound like a low self-esteem, wannabe pick up artist.
And your use of words like alpha and cucks make you sound like a low self-esteem, wannabe pick up artist.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
- shakendfries
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 3,886
- And1: 1,063
- Joined: Jun 24, 2015
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
13th Man wrote:shakendfries wrote:Why do you give credence to Trump’s presidency? Is he not a celebrity with no political experience?
This is the hypocrisy that’s been exposed. You’re only using this argument out of convenience.
Furthermore, this argument ‘athletes should just stick to sports’ does have racial implications, given its historical and selective application in the United States national dialogue by whites to shut down Muhammad Ali, Tommie Smith, & John Carlos when they spoke up on injustice. To argue stick to sports is to argue against the movements they spoke towards.
Additionally, you never addressed who is allowed to speak on politics? Most talking heads have no political experience outside of talking. As a matter of fact, they’re just like you or anyone else on this board. Why do you feel your opinion more valuable than anyone else’s? Are you infallible?
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
I'm a fan of Trump because he is Alpha, unlike my cuck Prime Minister Trudeau. He is a celebrity but through his prowness in entrepreneurship, not via the typical Hollywood route.
Athletes should stick to sports because that's what they're paid to do and that's what people play money to watch them do. As I mentioned before, when I'm working at my day job or teach I never bring up my political views because I know that it's not appropriate to do so. My employer doesn't pay me to cause a shi!tstorm because that's what political discussion will do. You have half of the people on one side, and half on the other.
Furthermore I watch sports for pure entertainment, as an escape. I don't need to tune into a pre-game show to hear them rant about politics when you know that it's going to be clearly biased and one-sided. Simple as that, has nothing to do with race.
The issue with deploying a racist argument to support your views is that it will always be intrinsically tied to the history of said argument. This post shifts the goalposts from what you said earlier ‘I think athletes should shutup and stick to sports’ (a historically racist argument used to shut out prominent black figures from speaking on issues affecting their communities) to what you’re saying now ‘I do not care for this athletes point of view’. The latter, does not imply that athletes should be silent and not express themselves. It is simply a disagreement to the opinion expressed. There is nothing confusing about this nuance.
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app


"Kevin Durant is not coming to the Nets. If I'm wrong, I will change my avatar to anything you request no matter how humiliating it is." - MrDollarBills, 10/22/18
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
- TheBrooklynKidd
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,208
- And1: 3,726
- Joined: Jul 31, 2013
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
13th Man wrote:TheBrooklynKidd wrote:13th Man wrote:
Are you referring to me? MDB, please tone down on the character attacks, this is not appreciated nor should be tolerated on this forum. First you accuse me of being a racist with no proof except for the fact that I stand by people like Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro. This is a bannable offense and actually supports my point that anybody that does not side with your views are automatically painted alt-right or racist. That is not fair nor tolerable. I've had to repeatedly defend my views that much have very little to do with race but since you're so absorbed in this narrative, everything has to boil down to race, which makes one wonder who really is the racist one here??
While I agree with you that many people are too quick to bring up race or call someone racist, that doesn’t change the fact that your ideology is not only inhumane but abhorrent, detrimental to society and fueled by Fox News propaganda/delusions. You are the right wing equivalent of the hordes of Rachel Maddow followers who take her blatant speculation and peddle it as fact.
The mindset of people go in waves and are largely set by the narrative pushed by government and by the media. The cucks that are in university today were brainwashed in large by the Obama administration and PC culture. Once they hit the real world, unless they work for Google, Facebook, Amazon or Starbucks where they are pampered and protected by safe spaces, they will quickly realize how the real world does not put up with their crying and victimhood mentality. They will realize that blaming others is not the solution, rather that they'll have to take responsibility for their own actions.
The kids in elementary school today will grow up rebelling against the PC culture. This is why Trump is good for the country, to revert the cuck culture back to normalcy.
By bringing up "PC Culture" you are further proving my point about you being indoctrinated by Fox News propaganda. You need to understand that Fox News constantly brings up things like PC culture and victimhood mentality in order to distract from the real issues that the world is facing. They want to keep their viewers distracted, ignorant and angry because then they wont have to back up their propaganda with facts.
Elementary School kids are not rebelling against PC culture by any means. I teach elementary school students occasionally and they are incredibly respectful and "woke" compared to the people I grew up around. The only person that theyre not respectful to is Trump himself. If i said the things they say about him I would lose my job and probably be investigated by the FBI. These are kids that play "hang-Trump" instead of "hang-man". Most kids who are old enough to care about these things were alive when Obama was president and even they can tell that Trump is a bumbling fool compared to him. Not that either of them were good. Personally I think Obama and Trump represent everything thats wrong with this country and the main difference between them and the presidents of the past is that Obamas skin is brown and Trump's skin is orange.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
- TheBrooklynKidd
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,208
- And1: 3,726
- Joined: Jul 31, 2013
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
13th Man wrote:Rich Rane wrote:13th Man wrote:
I don't know, I just use that term loosely and don't really know its true definition. I don't think it's a racist slur, it's more someone who is weak minded and falls prey to the leftist agenda.
"Cuck" actually has its roots from the word "cuckold", a husband whose wife is having an affair. Doesn't really have anything to do with liberal or conservative agendas or really politics in general, just a derogatory term I have no idea why is used and has gained popularity with the alt-right.
Ok thanks. It just sounds good to me, as an alternative to snowflake. But I will stop using it if is truly offensive to people.
No one is offended by the word "cuck." We just think youre embarrassing yourself by using a term that was popularized by truly racist people. It makes us question who you associate with and what you read in your free time.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
-
13th Man
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,936
- And1: 6,118
- Joined: Feb 12, 2012
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
Roy Tarpley wrote:13th man - you're giving Lin fans a bad name. Please, please, stop.
And your use of words like alpha and cucks make you sound like a low self-esteem, wannabe pick up artist.
I'm not speaking on behalf of Lin fans, just for myself. I'm thinking that most Asian-Americans including Jeremy LIn are more liberal than conservative but so be it. Being alpha is necessary in today's society or else you get run over by the PC mentality and get run over by women. When it comes down to it, women need men to be alpha as this is in our genetic and biological makeup. The PC culture is ruining everything, including a man's manhood, or "Peoplehood" as Justin Trudeau would put it.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
-
13th Man
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,936
- And1: 6,118
- Joined: Feb 12, 2012
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
Rich Rane wrote:13th Man wrote:Athletes should stick to sports because that's what they're paid to do and that's what people play money to watch them do. As I mentioned before, when I'm working at my day job or teach I never bring up my political views because I know that it's not appropriate to do so. My employer doesn't pay me to cause a shi!tstorm because that's what political discussion will do. You have half of the people on one side, and half on the other.
That's pretty much what athletes have been doing. They've been doing this on their time. It's not as if Chris Long gets a sack and talks to the camera about his political views. Or LeBron dunking on the break and then pulling his phone out to tweet. Or Pop during a timeout making crude drawings of Trump when he's supposed to be drawing up a play in the huddle.Furthermore I watch sports for pure entertainment, as an escape. I don't need to tune into a pre-game show to hear them rant about politics when you know that it's going to be clearly biased and one-sided. Simple as that, has nothing to do with race.
You don't have to watch the pregame. I sure as hell don't and my political views align with many of these athletes.
But it does spill into discussion and into the game as how it did with the NFL and now onto NBA live shows. I don't have a problem with the athletes expressing their opinions on their own time, that is their right to do so. Just don't bring it into the game, pre-game or the anthem.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
- Rich Rane
- Senior Mod - Nets

- Posts: 36,963
- And1: 15,637
- Joined: Jun 29, 2005
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
13th Man wrote:But it does spill into discussion and into the game as how it did with the NFL and now onto NBA live shows. I don't have a problem with the athletes expressing their opinions on their own time, that is their right to do so. Just don't bring it into the game, pre-game or the anthem.
Again, you don't have to watch the pregame or the anthem. You can do what I do. Go to the bathroom, get some food or something to drink, text, check e-mails, check what other games are gonna be on or about to be on. No one is forcing you or anyone to watch Americans exercising an American right.
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
-
13th Man
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,936
- And1: 6,118
- Joined: Feb 12, 2012
-
Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread
Rich Rane wrote:13th Man wrote:But it does spill into discussion and into the game as how it did with the NFL and now onto NBA live shows. I don't have a problem with the athletes expressing their opinions on their own time, that is their right to do so. Just don't bring it into the game, pre-game or the anthem.
Again, you don't have to watch the pregame or the anthem. You can do what I do. Go to the bathroom, get some food or something to drink, text, check e-mails, check what other games are gonna be on or about to be on. No one is forcing you or anyone to watch Americans exercising an American right.
That's true.







