Tyrone Wallace’s Strong Play Helping to Keep Clippers AfloatWallace also described some of the logistical hurdles and frustrations that are unique to two-way players called up from the G-League. Two-way players are limited in terms of how many days they can spend with their NBA team. These restrictions can affect a player’s ability to have the same continuity and structure as full-time NBA players. Wallace described some of these difficulties.
“You know, it’s basically, I can’t practice with the team and be on the floor while the players are on the floor, but I can get my treatment at the facilities and I can lift weights as well,” Wallace stated. “So, it’s not always literally going back and forth. But, it’s basically where I can’t do anything with the [Clippers].”“[T]he travel is bad, you know, sometimes I can’t travel with the team because it’ll take up a day. And so, I don’t go with them, I have to fly up the next day or the same day of the game, which is rough,” Wallace said. “I fly commercial instead of private with the teammates.”“But the great thing is that, you know, you get an opportunity. You get a chance to play,” Wallace told Basketball Insiders. “You’re a player and you’re still playing the NBA games. So, I think that’s always a positive aspect, the biggest thing that you could ask for.”
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His recent performances are even more impressive when taking all those distractions into account. Let's sign this guy already.
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I would choose Tyrone over Sindarius and Jawun right now tbh. We should definitely sign him.
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Someone please tell me this is a joke:
This has Frank and Doc written all over it. Favoring the washed-up vets who can't play anymore over young talent with potential. This is why I can't get fully on board with the post-Blake rebuilding optimism until they're fired.
This has Frank and Doc written all over it. Favoring the washed-up vets who can't play anymore over young talent with potential. This is why I can't get fully on board with the post-Blake rebuilding optimism until they're fired.

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I like how you've slowly added Frank on the same boat as Doc. Let's put the pitchforks down until we actually sign DRose. Could just be his agent spreading these rumours, for all we know.
I also refuse to believe that we'd be dumb enough to let Wallace walk. I don't care who we have to cut, just as long as we hold on to this kid.
I also refuse to believe that we'd be dumb enough to let Wallace walk. I don't care who we have to cut, just as long as we hold on to this kid.
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Dynamix wrote:I like how you've slowly added Frank on the same boat as Doc.
Frank is on the same boat as Doc, according to Ballmer:
Rivers, who held the title of president of basketball operations, will continue to have a strong voice in personnel and organizational matters and will partner with Lawrence Frank, the team's executive vice president of basketball operations, Ballmer told ESPN. Frank will now oversee basketball operations, including general manager Dave Wohl.
Both Frank and Rivers will report directly to the owner. Frank and Rivers enjoy a strong personal and professional relationship, which has allowed for them to cement a shared vision on the franchise's future.
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/doc-rivers-leaving-front-office-role-focusing-coaching/story?id=49038620
Frank has also confirmed it himself:
Q: What did it mean to strip Doc Rivers of his front-office duties during the offseason?
A: Doc and I are partners. Doc still has a huge voice in what we're doing.
http://www.ocregister.com/2017/10/17/q-a-with-lawrence-frank-clippers-president-of-basketball-operations/
I also refuse to believe that we'd be dumb enough to let Wallace walk.
That must be why Bullock and Ingles are still here, right? Oh wait...
What have the Clippers ever done in the Doc era to make anyone trust that they'll handle young talent correctly? As long as our front office is still being run by coaches pretending to be GMs, I'm not going to blindly trust them on anything.

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Jerry West please cut the bull and get Wallace signed. And why wait until the zero hour when we play the Rockets tonight
I thought this 2 deal was a blessing earlier in the season but now its just been a total nightmare and a curse

I thought this 2 deal was a blessing earlier in the season but now its just been a total nightmare and a curse
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And people thought I was crazy for not jumping on the "trust the front office" bandwagon after the Blake trade. WTF is the point of rebuilding and developing young talent if we're not actually going to keep the talent when we have it? This is absolutely ridiculous. Only the Clippers could screw this no-brainer situation up.
Wallace will become a star - or at least a solid, consistent contributor - on another team and the Clippers will look like morons.





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I think we're missing necessary information here
Ty is eligible to play after the G-League ends March 24, which I think I counted = another 10 games with the Clips
plus playoffs
only question is whether other teams can grab him up from us
I thought 2-ways were supposed to prevent that
and make it worthwhile to invest in G-League
the problem with G-League was you get no control over the players you're paying to educate
Ty will make [iirc] $300-400K this year under his 2-way
surely we get some return on investment
Ty is eligible to play after the G-League ends March 24, which I think I counted = another 10 games with the Clips
plus playoffs
only question is whether other teams can grab him up from us
I thought 2-ways were supposed to prevent that
and make it worthwhile to invest in G-League
the problem with G-League was you get no control over the players you're paying to educate
Ty will make [iirc] $300-400K this year under his 2-way
surely we get some return on investment

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Would signing Wallace put the clippers over the luxury tax or something? I don’t get it otherwise. He has played quite well and they should keep him if possible
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MartinToVaught wrote:I also refuse to believe that we'd be dumb enough to let Wallace walk.
That must be why Bullock and Ingles are still here, right? Oh wait...
What have the Clippers ever done in the Doc era to make anyone trust that they'll handle young talent correctly? As long as our front office is still being run by coaches pretending to be GMs, I'm not going to blindly trust them on anything.
Bullock never showed anything near the impact that Wallace currently is, and while the fan base really liked Ingles, there were quite a few folks that agreed with the decision of keeping Cunningham & CDR over him. I sure as hell wasn't one of them though, and, like Reggie, Ingles didn't show quite with Ty has.
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We have the really stop being so reactionary about things.. Repeater tax is serious, it's not a joke and it also limits you in free agency and such. If the Clippers give Wallace a substantial contract they will be in the tax. We can't be paying the repeater tax for this team, especially being unsure about what could happen in the off-season. Clippers were a tax team in past years, and again, repeater tax is no joke.
Everything can't be about trying to promote whatever agenda we have, let's have good discussion and look at all angles.
There are a lot of smart people in the front office, we have like three GMs, one a cap specialist, Frank, West, this isn't Doc and his three friends, and the idea that not signing Wallace, a guy Doc was starting over Milos is a "Doc move" doesn't even make sense outside of the whole nonsensical trying to separate what front office moves are this or that person as if they are just making moves separately and not in cohesion as a unit. It's purely foolish to think that makes sense, come on guys.
If whatever contract he gets will be attached to this seasons cap, then the Clippers are not in a good position to sign Wallace. If they hold off and sign him in the off-season for next year, things open up a bit. Isn't he a Clippers restricted FA?
Everything can't be about trying to promote whatever agenda we have, let's have good discussion and look at all angles.
There are a lot of smart people in the front office, we have like three GMs, one a cap specialist, Frank, West, this isn't Doc and his three friends, and the idea that not signing Wallace, a guy Doc was starting over Milos is a "Doc move" doesn't even make sense outside of the whole nonsensical trying to separate what front office moves are this or that person as if they are just making moves separately and not in cohesion as a unit. It's purely foolish to think that makes sense, come on guys.
If whatever contract he gets will be attached to this seasons cap, then the Clippers are not in a good position to sign Wallace. If they hold off and sign him in the off-season for next year, things open up a bit. Isn't he a Clippers restricted FA?
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I'm really dumbfounded why the Clippers aren't keeping him. He's not going to be a star, but he looks like a good starting role player in the NBA. I guess he really doesn't want to finish out the season in Ontario before getting a contract in the offseason?
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I concur with og15. I'm sure the organization wants to keep Wallace but can't risk the repeater tax, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone here. We made moves early in the season to get underneath the luxury tax and got statements and reports implying that the aim was to stay there this season even if the organization was supposedly not going to rule anything out. Then we traded away Griffin and looked to deal DJ and Lou by the trade deadline in order to open up future cap flexibility, so we're going to sacrifice all that to sign Tyrone Wallace? Come on, we have to look at the big picture.
I don't know the full details of our cap situation, but I suspect it's why we haven't signed Wallace. It's the only reason that makes sense. This is one of those hard decisions that have to be made by the organization and it's sensible for them to take the risk of sacrificing Wallace for the sake of maintaining our cap flexibility given the work to get us here and aim for the future moving forward.
All is not quite lost, however. While nothing is assured, I don't see another team signing Wallace for a spot on the postseason roster and he's apparently a restricted free agent for us, so if we make it to the off-season without him being signed, there's an increased likelihood that we can retain him, especially if and once we deal away DeAndre Jordan and/or Austin Rivers. If Wallace is expecting anything more than a minimum NBA deal, then we're probably better off not keeping him.
Right now, it sucks for Tyrone but he's caught in a numbers game.
I don't know the full details of our cap situation, but I suspect it's why we haven't signed Wallace. It's the only reason that makes sense. This is one of those hard decisions that have to be made by the organization and it's sensible for them to take the risk of sacrificing Wallace for the sake of maintaining our cap flexibility given the work to get us here and aim for the future moving forward.
All is not quite lost, however. While nothing is assured, I don't see another team signing Wallace for a spot on the postseason roster and he's apparently a restricted free agent for us, so if we make it to the off-season without him being signed, there's an increased likelihood that we can retain him, especially if and once we deal away DeAndre Jordan and/or Austin Rivers. If Wallace is expecting anything more than a minimum NBA deal, then we're probably better off not keeping him.
Right now, it sucks for Tyrone but he's caught in a numbers game.
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I thought the Blake trade created flexibility under the cap to sign Wallace without going into the repeater tax. Wasn't that one of the selling points of the trade?

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MartinToVaught wrote:I thought the Blake trade created flexibility under the cap to sign Wallace without going into the repeater tax. Wasn't that one of the selling points of the trade?
It created future salary cap flexibility in that we got rid of his long-term commitment while taking in shorter term deals for Tobias Harris, Avery Bradley, Boban Marjanovic, and the top-4 protected draft pick. Don't forget that the Clippers had to match salaries for this season in order to pull off the trade. Boban makes $7 million this season by himself. Bradley is at approximately $9 million while Harris is at $16 million. Griffin makes just under $30 million for the season and I'm not sure if a trade kicker was added for him in the deal. Willie Reed only made just over $1.5 million for the season.
Both Harris and Marjanovic each have one more season left on their respective contracts while Bradley will be an unrestricted free agent.
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Ranma wrote:I concur with og15. I'm sure the organization wants to keep Wallace but can't risk the repeater tax, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone here. We made moves early in the season to get underneath the luxury tax and got statements and reports implying that the aim was to stay there this season even if the organization was supposedly not going to rule anything out. Then we traded away Griffin and looked to deal DJ and Lou by the trade deadline in order to open up future cap flexibility, so we're going to sacrifice all that to sign Tyrone Wallace? Come on, we have to look at the big picture.
I don't know the full details of our cap situation, but I suspect it's why we haven't signed Wallace. It's the only reason that makes sense. This is one of those hard decisions that have to be made by the organization and it's sensible for them to take the risk of sacrificing Wallace for the sake of maintaining our cap flexibility given the work to get us here and aim for the future moving forward.
All is not quite lost, however. While nothing is assured, I don't see another team signing Wallace for a spot on the postseason roster and he's apparently a restricted free agent for us, so if we make it to the off-season without him being signed, there's an increased likelihood that we can retain him, especially if and once we deal away DeAndre Jordan and/or Austin Rivers. If Wallace is expecting anything more than a minimum NBA deal, then we're probably better off not keeping him.
Right now, it sucks for Tyrone but he's caught in a numbers game.
I don't see how teams aren't interested in him when he's putting up 10/3/2 in his first season in the NBA.
If you guys can keep him with ACC until the offseason I'd do that.
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