Official Current Affairs & Politics thread

[MrDollarBills]

Oh, the same Jeffrey Epstein that is friends with Bill Clinton, Podesta and a host of other democrats? Don't even get me started on the hypocrisy of the #metoo movement in Hollywood. Hilarious how they all come out of the woodwork to white knight now when they've all turned a blind eye to it for the longest time while all the abuse was taking place.

dude, i literally mentioned bill clinton in my post involving Jeffrey Epstein.

Also, why do you turn a blind eye to Trump's association with Epstein in an attempt to deflect? why don't you comment on Trump's relationship with Epstein, a known pedophile who hosted hundreds of sex parties where Trump was in attendance?

Why are you upset that women in Hollywood (and some men in fact! shocker right?) are coming out and calling sexual predators to the mat? why do you have a problem with MeToo?

I mean, better late than never correct? do you understand that being raped or sexually abused causes serious damage to the victim? it's not easy for people who deal with that to come forward with it right away and often when someone brave enough comes forward it gives the other victims the courage to tell their story?

do you believe that victims of sexual violence should stay silent if they don't report it right away?

[AndySF]

I'm not afraid of strong women at all, one of my best consultants is a women and she's my right hand woman when it comes to tackling difficult technical security issues. The problem arises when you have an expectation of an equality of outcome in the workplace which is a highly flawed concept pushed by feminists.

Jordan Peterson discusses this concept in his interview with Cathie Newman where feminists expect an equality of outcome despite not having the same qualifications. Look what the pansy (I will refrain from using cuck) Justin Trudeau did, he filled his cabinet ministers with half females which is total BS. This position has always been dominated by men because men are naturally more qualified for such positions. Men have always been more dominant at the higher level positions, that's just the way it is and has been forever. It's like saying why aren't there as many male nurses or dental hygenists, then forcing those practices to even up the outcome for those positions. Jordan Peterson believes in equality of opportunity, not the equality of outcome. Women do have equal opportunity in the workplace for the most part, the reason why there is an imbalance wrt to certain position does not have anything to do with unfairness, moreso to due to merit along with natural preference.

That's the thing, the left continue to push these wuss agendas onto the public, from feminism to the bogus trans movement, to identity politics and many BS agendas cited by Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson. You guys don't get that much of why the people voted for Trump does not have to do with race, but more about people getting sick of the bull being pushed down our throats by the media, corporations and academia. The huge bias displayed by the likes of CNN may have hurt Hillary Clinton after all because the people could see through it.

I don't have a dog in the fight regarding gun control but I can clearly see that the left trying to push their agenda there too to eventually ban all guns. Conservatives or Republicans are sick of all of the crying. You guys lost, how about respect the democracy process and give your president a chance for once, rather than incessantly cry about him and bash him 24/7 until no end?

That's not what you said. Having a women as your right hand is still you being an alpha. I never said I support giving anything to anyone just because (race, gender, etc). And there absolutely no reason to box man and women in stereo typing classification in 2018.

It's not stereotyping, it's factual. The disproportionality of men to women in certain positions come down to natural preference, competence and merit. Do you not agree that more men prefer to be in the military, become policemen or firefighters? Do you not agree that more women prefer to be admin assistants, nurses, dental hygienists and yoga instructors? There is a reason for this imbalance of ratio and it comes down to natural preference (based on genetic makeup), their merit and their competence.

Of course any man or women who is as competent should be able to obtain any of those positions mentioned above, that is the concept to equal opportunity. Equality of outcome is not a reasonable expectation, to think that there should be an equal number of Directors, CEOs, Nurses what have you. Maybe with certain jobs like at Starbucks or McDonalds you could expect equal outcome but most positions in the real world should not have that expectation.

It have nothing to do with expected outcome. Everyone have a right to go after what they want regardless of outcome. You miss hundred % of the shot you don't take. No one have the right to tell any human being what they can or can not accomplish. You call yourself an conservative, should know better. The fact that the right want to control women and tell them what they can or can not do fly in the face of our constitution.
Please quote me where I have ever say that I support equality of outcome? Just because one women in your video totally got owned by Peterson doesn't mean anything. She just sucks at her job and she is one person. She don't represent any other women or men.

[13th Man]

That's emotion though. You just criticized the women of The View for arguing with that and said single mothers would cry out with their emotional stories about Coulter's criticism of single parenthood. She's provided a "solution". Are emotions here now worth more than "facts"?

Yes, it is based off emotion but a very valid one. No parent should have to give up their own child against their will and it's unreasonable and heartless for someone to suggest such an action.

But Coulter's "facts" say the child would be better off with two parents.

For the record, these are the moral dilemmas you'll have to battle with when your views align alongside members of the alt-right because Coulter and her supporters sure as hell don't agree with you and wouldn't hesitate to group you among the "cucks" of the world.

Are you a cuck, 13th Man, or are you an alpha?

Her facts are correct but her solution doesn't sound to be reasonable. You fix a problem by getting to the root cause, not by mitigating the outcome.

Lol, I don't know. You are also helping me to raise my point that not everybody falls exactly under one umbrella or should be painted with the same brush. I could agree with 75% of the stuff from one side while disagreeing with other major issues such as gun control etc. If you just blindly agree with one side on everything then you'd be just as guilty of being the sheep that you accuse others of being.

[MrDollarBills]

I just think it sounds funny and fitting e.g. I voted for Justin Trudeau who turned out to be a major cuck.

I'm not directly blaming Obama per say, just saying that his tenure has amplified this type of mindset, this would have happened with Hillary Clinton as well.

Ben Shapiro isn't alt-right, it just so happens that I agree with him on a lot of things because I like how he backs up his opinions with logical facts. Same for Jordan Peterson, this latest year has been huge for him as he's done some really good work; with opposing the ridiculous bill that dictates how Canadians should speak, helping Lindsay Shepherd to expose Sir Wilfred Laurier University's leftist bias, then the dismantling of Cathie Newman.

As for the others like Milo and Ann Coulter, I don't really follow to be honest. I've only heard about Ann Coulter because she was barred from speaking at one of the local universities here which I don't agree with. Actually, I agree with her stance on feminism though.

Ben Shapiro simply isn't Alt Right because he's Jewish and they hate him, but his views aren't that far off from theirs. He's a bigot who attempts repeatedly to intellectualize sexism and racism. You seem to be a big fan, so I assume you share some of his views about women and black people, correct?

So you don't follow Milo, but you agree with "some" of his racist views? I really don't believe you when you said you don't follow these people, but I digress.

Ann Coulter is a racist scumbag. that's why she was barred. that's a pretty good reason to bar someone from speaking at a public event at a private university, don't you think?

I honestly don't watch Milo at all, I saw a clip of him once with Vanilla Ice looking hair or saw him quickly on The Joe Rogan Experience. Btw, Peterson and Shapiro are frequent guests of Rogan, always a good broadcast. I caught Ann Coulter on one of the feminist talk shows; I think it was The View where she destroyed those feminist idiots with facts while they tried to argue back based on pure emotion.

Ben Shapiro is good, he has destroyed many BLM members with facts regarding crime rates in America. Like I said, I'm an equal opportunity hater when it comes to criminals and just because I despise criminals of all races does not make me a racist nor should it make Ben Shapiro one. If one simply points out facts regarding any particular race, how does that make them racist? I also love people of all races too so that must make a me a hypocritical racist.

Please spell out the facts that Ben Shapiro brought up about crime rates in America. and then, please state the underlying reasons for those facts. The underlying reason never gets discussed, I notice. just the problem.

I bet you won't get into that conversation. See, the thing is that most people who try to demonize black people or justify their anti-blackness love to use statistics to try to paint black americans with a broad brush, but they never go any deeper than that.

"blacks commit the most violent crime per capita!" they scream. Point out the fact that cops are more likely to be killed by a white male, or that children are most likely to be raped or sexually abused by a white male, and then they suddenly dislike the "facts" and start making up excuses.

I'm glad however, that you have let us know that you do agree with Ben Shapiro's racist views about black people, pretty much confirming what shakeandfries called you out on.

[13th Man]

That's not what you said. Having a women as your right hand is still you being an alpha. I never said I support giving anything to anyone just because (race, gender, etc). And there absolutely no reason to box man and women in stereo typing classification in 2018.

It's not stereotyping, it's factual. The disproportionality of men to women in certain positions come down to natural preference, competence and merit. Do you not agree that more men prefer to be in the military, become policemen or firefighters? Do you not agree that more women prefer to be admin assistants, nurses, dental hygienists and yoga instructors? There is a reason for this imbalance of ratio and it comes down to natural preference (based on genetic makeup), their merit and their competence.

Of course any man or women who is as competent should be able to obtain any of those positions mentioned above, that is the concept to equal opportunity. Equality of outcome is not a reasonable expectation, to think that there should be an equal number of Directors, CEOs, Nurses what have you. Maybe with certain jobs like at Starbucks or McDonalds you could expect equal outcome but most positions in the real world should not have that expectation.

It have nothing to do with expected outcome. Everyone have a right to go after what they want regardless of outcome. You miss hundred % of the shot you don't take. No one have the right to tell any human being what they can or can not accomplish. You call yourself an conservative, should know better. The fact that the right want to control women and tell them what they can or can not do fly in the face of our constitution.
Please quote me where I have ever say that I support equality of outcome? Just because one women in your video totally got owned by Peterson doesn't mean anything. She just sucks at her job and she is one person. She don't represent any other women or men.

Well then I don't know what we are arguing about. If a woman is as competent as a man, then she should have an equal opportunity for the position. The fact of the matter is that not as many women go for the highest level positions, therefore the ratio is never equal. Hence why there has always been a way less proportion of women as world leaders and CEOs. Has nothing to do with them being kept down by conservatives. Has more to do with competition and competence at that level.

The right are not trying to control women or trying to keep them down, not at all. It's the left and the feminists that are pushing for equality of outcome which is a total farce and pansies such as Justin Trudeau actually buy into it. Ridiculous.

[MrDollarBills]

Keep speaking the truth MDB. Also don’t forget about the very credible statutory rape accusations against him.

you're talking about his alleged rape and abuse of a 13 year old sex trafficked girl via his old friend, convicted pedophile sex offender Jeffrey Epstein? I believe that story 100%. why?

Watch on YouTube

^^that is the behavior of sexual predator. I believe every single one of his accusers too. He has also openly made sexually charged comments about his daughter Ivanka that were beyond sickening to hear. How people don't see this, I don't know.

this is another reason why I didn't like Hillary as a candidate. She could have brought up a LOT of stuff about him. but if she did, Bill Clinton's behavior would have been brought up as well since Clinton used to hang out and go to Epstein's sex parties too.

13th man looks at a reality television star who inherited his wealth & casually insinuates he'd have sex with his daughter and supports him to be the leader of the free world

13th man looks at a billionaire who grew up both homeless and fatherless & also happens to be one of the greatest athletes of this generation and believes he shouldn't have a platform to comment on politics & should just shut up and play basketball

real alpha stuff going on here

real alpha. billionaire athlete sends hundreds of kids to college with his own money, doing society a great favor by helping the next scientist, engineer, writer, architect etc get their start in life to make america greater, but he should shut up about politics, meanwhile the reality tv star has the FBI up his ass, has the attention span of a 2 year old, **** porn stars while his wife is 6 month pregnant, brags about assaulting women...etc. okay.

an alpha male speaks truth to power and uplifts those who need to be uplifted. donald trump is not that dude.

[Rich Rane]

Her facts are correct but her solution doesn't sound to be reasonable. You fix a problem by getting to the root cause, not by mitigating the outcome.

Having the future raised by two parents sounds like quite the fix. Her "facts" says children raised by single parents are more prone to crime.

Lol, I don't know. You are also helping me to raise my point that not everybody falls exactly under one umbrella or should be painted with the same brush. I could agree with 75% of the stuff from one side while disagreeing with other major issues such as gun control etc. If you just blindly agree with one side on everything then you'd be just as guilty of being the sheep that you accuse others of being.

Except that 75% of the stuff you are agreeing with is from more of the extreme right of center. On a personal note, you don't find it disconcerting that your views align a lot more with racists than people who aren't?

[13th Man]

Ben Shapiro simply isn't Alt Right because he's Jewish and they hate him, but his views aren't that far off from theirs. He's a bigot who attempts repeatedly to intellectualize sexism and racism. You seem to be a big fan, so I assume you share some of his views about women and black people, correct?

So you don't follow Milo, but you agree with "some" of his racist views? I really don't believe you when you said you don't follow these people, but I digress.

Ann Coulter is a racist scumbag. that's why she was barred. that's a pretty good reason to bar someone from speaking at a public event at a private university, don't you think?

I honestly don't watch Milo at all, I saw a clip of him once with Vanilla Ice looking hair or saw him quickly on The Joe Rogan Experience. Btw, Peterson and Shapiro are frequent guests of Rogan, always a good broadcast. I caught Ann Coulter on one of the feminist talk shows; I think it was The View where she destroyed those feminist idiots with facts while they tried to argue back based on pure emotion.

Ben Shapiro is good, he has destroyed many BLM members with facts regarding crime rates in America. Like I said, I'm an equal opportunity hater when it comes to criminals and just because I despise criminals of all races does not make me a racist nor should it make Ben Shapiro one. If one simply points out facts regarding any particular race, how does that make them racist? I also love people of all races too so that must make a me a hypocritical racist.

Please spell out the facts that Ben Shapiro brought up about crime rates in America. and then, please state the underlying reasons for those facts. The underlying reason never gets discussed, I notice. just the problem.

I bet you won't get into that conversation. See, the thing is that most people who try to demonize black people or justify their anti-blackness love to use statistics to try to paint black americans with a broad brush, but they never go any deeper than that.

"blacks commit the most violent crime per capita!" they scream. Point out the fact that cops are more likely to be killed by a white male, or that children are most likely to be raped or sexually abused by a white male, and then they suddenly dislike the "facts" and start making up excuses.

I'm glad however, that you have let us know that you do agree with Ben Shapiro's racist views about black people, pretty much confirming what shakeandfries called you out on.

That's because you clearly have a different perspective of what constitutes racism. The videos that I remember watching from Shapiro against BLM made a lot of sense, based off of facts. I didn't really want to go there and to have to try to dig it out from YouTube, but I will if you insist.

Again, I don't appreciate you calling me a racist based off of your perception. It's unfair and uncalled for imo. Because I like and agree with much of what Ben Shapiro says automatically implicate me as a racist? Seriously?

[MrDollarBills]

I caught Ann Coulter on one of the feminist talk shows; I think it was The View where she destroyed those feminist idiots with facts while they tried to argue back based on pure emotion.

Did she say anything about Mexico paying for a border wall? If she did, that sure as hell doesn't sound like facts.

Just because a soulless emotionless bitch of a robot spouts statements doesn't mean they're facts and doesn't mean said soulless emotionless bitch of a robot is not benefiting herself (Did she have a book releasing?).

Speaking of a wall, where do you stand on that, 13th Man? Do you believe Mexico will be paying for a border wall? It was a huge campaign promise of the Trump Campaign. Almost certain Trump jump-started his campaign on that.

The logistics of building a wall is too complicated imo, it appears to me that he didn't have it figured out. The wall has potential to be Trump's version of Obamacare, something that has good intentions for the American people but way too complicated politically and financially to pull off.

obamacare has insured millions. Trump's wall idea is nothing but blight fueled by racist ignorance.

a wall won't keep illegal immigrants out. most illegal immigrants, from all corners of the globe mind you, come here via a **** ing airplane.

[13th Man]

Her facts are correct but her solution doesn't sound to be reasonable. You fix a problem by getting to the root cause, not by mitigating the outcome.

Having the future raised by two parents sounds like quite the fix. Her "facts" says children raised by single parents are more prone to crime.

Lol, I don't know. You are also helping me to raise my point that not everybody falls exactly under one umbrella or should be painted with the same brush. I could agree with 75% of the stuff from one side while disagreeing with other major issues such as gun control etc. If you just blindly agree with one side on everything then you'd be just as guilty of being the sheep that you accuse others of being.

Except that 75% of the stuff you are agreeing with is from more of the extreme right of center. On a personal note, you don't find it disconcerting that your views align a lot more with racists than people who aren't?

If you haven't noticed a trend, it's not as much that I agree with the right but more so that I disagree with the left. I disagree with the right on gun control and perhaps on some other things but I despise the agenda that the left are trying to force down our throats. Many of these are covered by Ben Shapiro, to which most have very little to do with race btw.

[MrDollarBills]

I honestly don't watch Milo at all, I saw a clip of him once with Vanilla Ice looking hair or saw him quickly on The Joe Rogan Experience. Btw, Peterson and Shapiro are frequent guests of Rogan, always a good broadcast. I caught Ann Coulter on one of the feminist talk shows; I think it was The View where she destroyed those feminist idiots with facts while they tried to argue back based on pure emotion.

Ben Shapiro is good, he has destroyed many BLM members with facts regarding crime rates in America. Like I said, I'm an equal opportunity hater when it comes to criminals and just because I despise criminals of all races does not make me a racist nor should it make Ben Shapiro one. If one simply points out facts regarding any particular race, how does that make them racist? I also love people of all races too so that must make a me a hypocritical racist.

Please spell out the facts that Ben Shapiro brought up about crime rates in America. and then, please state the underlying reasons for those facts. The underlying reason never gets discussed, I notice. just the problem.

I bet you won't get into that conversation. See, the thing is that most people who try to demonize black people or justify their anti-blackness love to use statistics to try to paint black americans with a broad brush, but they never go any deeper than that.

"blacks commit the most violent crime per capita!" they scream. Point out the fact that cops are more likely to be killed by a white male, or that children are most likely to be raped or sexually abused by a white male, and then they suddenly dislike the "facts" and start making up excuses.

I'm glad however, that you have let us know that you do agree with Ben Shapiro's racist views about black people, pretty much confirming what shakeandfries called you out on.

That's because you clearly have a different perspective of what constitutes racism. The videos that I remember watching from Shapiro against BLM made a lot of sense, based off of facts. I didn't really want to go there and to have to try to dig it out from YouTube, but I will if you insist.

Again, I don't appreciate you calling me a racist based off of your perception. It's unfair and uncalled for imo. Because I like and agree with much of what Ben Shapiro says automatically implicate me as a racist? Seriously?

I don't have a different perspective about what constitutes racism. I am black, I know what the **** racism is dude because I have experienced it first hand. you aren't going to play this game with me.

Go there, please. pull up the arguments. i think this thread has been fairly civil, so if you want to introduce some of your shared antiblack views that you have with Ben Shapiro into this thread we can gladly discuss them. All I will say is, once you do that, don't run.

Ben Shapiro tries to intellectualize racism. so yes, that makes him racist, especially when it comes to black people. like you, he will say things, and then try to claim the other side is being "sensitive" or "PC" when they push back against his views.

also... if you agree with those views, what does that make you?

[MrDollarBills]

Her facts are correct but her solution doesn't sound to be reasonable. You fix a problem by getting to the root cause, not by mitigating the outcome.

Having the future raised by two parents sounds like quite the fix. Her "facts" says children raised by single parents are more prone to crime.

Lol, I don't know. You are also helping me to raise my point that not everybody falls exactly under one umbrella or should be painted with the same brush. I could agree with 75% of the stuff from one side while disagreeing with other major issues such as gun control etc. If you just blindly agree with one side on everything then you'd be just as guilty of being the sheep that you accuse others of being.

Except that 75% of the stuff you are agreeing with is from more of the extreme right of center. On a personal note, you don't find it disconcerting that your views align a lot more with racists than people who aren't?

If you haven't noticed a trend, it's not as much that I agree with the right but more so that I disagree with the left. I disagree with the right on gun control and perhaps on some other things but I despise the agenda that the left are trying to force down our throats. Many of these are covered by Ben Shapiro, to which most have very little to do with race btw.

again, Ben Shapiro's abhorrent views about people of color, lgbters, women, etc align with 99% of the alt right. he is trash to the core.

the only reason why he doesn't embrace the alt right, or that the alt right doesn't embrace him, is because he's Jewish.

he, like you, will be reminded sooner than later as to why people like the both of you really have no business having these views. the people you kowtow to hate you, and some of them even want to kill you.

[13th Man]

Please spell out the facts that Ben Shapiro brought up about crime rates in America. and then, please state the underlying reasons for those facts. The underlying reason never gets discussed, I notice. just the problem.

I bet you won't get into that conversation. See, the thing is that most people who try to demonize black people or justify their anti-blackness love to use statistics to try to paint black americans with a broad brush, but they never go any deeper than that.

"blacks commit the most violent crime per capita!" they scream. Point out the fact that cops are more likely to be killed by a white male, or that children are most likely to be raped or sexually abused by a white male, and then they suddenly dislike the "facts" and start making up excuses.

I'm glad however, that you have let us know that you do agree with Ben Shapiro's racist views about black people, pretty much confirming what shakeandfries called you out on.

That's because you clearly have a different perspective of what constitutes racism. The videos that I remember watching from Shapiro against BLM made a lot of sense, based off of facts. I didn't really want to go there and to have to try to dig it out from YouTube, but I will if you insist.

Again, I don't appreciate you calling me a racist based off of your perception. It's unfair and uncalled for imo. Because I like and agree with much of what Ben Shapiro says automatically implicate me as a racist? Seriously?

Go there, please. pull up the arguments. i think this thread has been fairly civil, so if you want to introduce some of your shared antiblack views that you have with Ben Shapiro into this thread we can gladly discuss them. All I will say is, once you do that, don't run.

Ben Shapiro tries to intellectualize racism. so yes, that makes him racist, especially when it comes to black people. like you, he will say things, and then try to claim the other side is being "sensitive" or "PC" when they push back against his views.

also... if you agree with those views, what does that make you?

Ok, I will but not tonight. I really don't want to make this about race at all, it does not fire me up. I will do it if you insist, only to try to defend my name which I'm not sure why I have to do it tooth and nail.

If you guys haven't noticed, most of my gripes against the left have been against censorship of free speech in academia, pushing weird agendas such as the trans movement, feminism and others. Why it keeps circling back to race as the primary reason why I side with the right, I am quite dumbfounded to be honest.

[13th Man]

Having the future raised by two parents sounds like quite the fix. Her "facts" says children raised by single parents are more prone to crime.



Except that 75% of the stuff you are agreeing with is from more of the extreme right of center. On a personal note, you don't find it disconcerting that your views align a lot more with racists than people who aren't?

If you haven't noticed a trend, it's not as much that I agree with the right but more so that I disagree with the left. I disagree with the right on gun control and perhaps on some other things but I despise the agenda that the left are trying to force down our throats. Many of these are covered by Ben Shapiro, to which most have very little to do with race btw.

again, Ben Shapiro's abhorrent views about people of color, lgbters, women, etc align with 99% of the alt right. he is trash to the core.

the only reason why he doesn't embrace the alt right, or that the alt right doesn't embrace him, is because he's Jewish.

he, like you, will be reminded sooner than later as to why people like the both of you really have no business having these views. the people you kowtow to hate you, and some of them even want to kill you.

Honestly, I don't even want to go there because I feel that you are too extreme in regards to your perception about racism. Nothing that I say or do will change your mind of me being a racist.

All I can do is continue living my life the way I know how to, and that is interacting and helping people of different races daily.

[13th Man]

Except that 75% of the stuff you are agreeing with is from more of the extreme right of center. On a personal note, you don't find it disconcerting that your views align a lot more with racists than people who aren't?

I can't say that I agree with this. I would say it's right-leaning for sure but not alt-right. I don't even know what alt-right means anymore, does it mean that I'm a Nazi and part of the KKK?

I side with a lot of the stuff that Ben Shapiro says and espeically what Jordan Peterson says aobut the left. I don't think this makes me an extreme right because a lot of their views just come down to sensible logic imo. I still don't understand how agreeing with them automatically paints me as an alt-right racist.

- I ranted about the censorship of Lindsay Shepherd at Sir Wilfred Laurier University. This was legit, the leftist PHD supervisor got exposed and reprimanded.

- I ranted about the stupid bill that makes Canadians have to call trans people by some silly pronoun. Obviously agree with Jordan Peterson there.

- I ranted about the dumb logic of feminists in regards to Jordan Peterson / Cathie Newman interview. Feminist logic exposed.

- I voiced my opinion about banning bump stocks and possibly all semi-automatic rifles. Don't feel why normal citizens need to fire off machine gun rounds.

- I ranted about college students requiring safe spaces and the reality that will set in when they encounter the real world.

- I ranted about the violent ANITFA members.

- I ranted about political discussion invading sports events. I don't need to see this when tuning into sports.

- I ranted about how the PC culture has turned boys into pussies rather than men.

- I ranted about voting for a Liberal Justin Trudeau who turned out to be a pansy. His "Peoplekind" comment was an embarrassment internationally.

- I constantly have to defend my daily lifestyle of working with and helping people of all cultures.

But somehow, despite all of these various rants against the left, the only takeaway that you guys see is that I am a racsist because I agree with Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro. Ok...

[13th Man]

Having the future raised by two parents sounds like quite the fix. Her "facts" says children raised by single parents are more prone to crime.

Again, her fact is not wrong but her solution is. Nobody should be forced to give up their children involuntarily unless there has been proof of abuse. This does not happen in the animal kingdom and it shouldn't happen amongst the most civilized species.

[13th Man]

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/437pbg/bernie-sanders-campaign-colluded-with-russia-federal-election-commission-finds

Bernie Sanders colluded — with the Australian Labor Party

Between Bernie Sanders and the Australians, there was collusion.
While the Russia investigation continues to swirl around President Donald Trump and the members of his entourage, the Federal Election Commission (FEC) has confirmed another instance of illegal meddling in the election: Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign illegally accepted contributions from the Australian Labor Party, which paid for volunteers to fly across the globe to volunteer on his campaign, according to a ruling filed earlier this month.

The volunteers, who were participating in a government-funded education program, even got $8,000 in stipends from their native country to campaign for the popular Vermont senator in his 2016 run for the White House.

The FEC ruled that the Sanders campaign accepted about $25,000 in in-kind donations from the Australians. Bernie’s been ordered to fork over $14,500 in civil penalties for violating campaign law.

Sanders’ campaign staffers told the FEC they knew that some of the Australian volunteers were getting stipends, but they thought — “mistakenly,” the FEC has pointed out in their ruling — that the volunteers were doing legal work. After initially pushing back against the FEC, the Sanders campaign has agreed to pay up.

A campaign spokesperson told VICE News that the campaign accepted the fine to avoid an expensive legal fight with the FEC but noted that it did not admit to any wrongdoing.

“During the course of the campaign, thousands and thousands of young people from every state and many other countries volunteered. Among them were seven Australian young people who were receiving a modest stipend and airfare from the Australian Labor Party so they could learn about American politics,” the spokesperson said. “The folks on the campaign managing volunteers did not believe the stipend disqualified them from being volunteers.

William O’Brien, the Republican former New Hampshire House speaker, filed the complaint with the FEC that led to the fine, according to local radio station WMUV, which first reported on the ruling. O’Brien had seen a video, filmed by Project Veritas, of Australians pulling up yard signs during the campaign. As it turns out, O’Brien’s hunch was right.

Project Veritas is the same organization that tried to bait the Washington Post last year into reporting on a fake news story about a woman who falsely claimed failed Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore impregnated her. (The Post didn’t bite.)

[tonman]

Oh don’t get me wrong I completely agree . I wasn’t comparing him to Trump im Just saying that Obama wasn’t revolutionary by any means. At the end of the day he was just another neoliberal war-hawk who allowed wealthy special interest groups to write policy.

What? War? Wealthy special interest? Sounds republican to me.

I have to disagree. Both side are bought and paid for. The Dem may sound like hey are for the poor, but they are not. They give crumbs to minority to keep them in their place, and use scare tactic for their vote. The Rep use the same tactic to a different demographic. They are all just pandering, None of them tell the truth.

that be my point. when you accuse the other side of being something or doing something and you can't see that you've done those things yourself, your credibility just dropped.

[tonman]

It's not stereotyping, it's just the way it is for the longest time. The disproportionality of men to women in certain positions come down to natural preference, competence and merit. Do you not agree that more men prefer to be in the military, become policemen or firefighters? Do you not agree that more women prefer to be admin assistants, nurses, dental hygienists and yoga instructors? There is a reason for this imbalance of ratio and it comes down to natural preference (based on genetic makeup), their merit and their competence.

Of course any man or women who is as competent should be able to obtain any of those positions mentioned above, that is the concept to equal opportunity. Equality of outcome is not a reasonable expectation, to think that there should be an equal number of Directors, CEOs, Nurses what have you. Maybe with certain jobs like at Starbucks or McDonalds you could expect equal outcome but most positions in the real world should not have that expectation.

nope. women do NOT prefer those jobs. they work those jobs because they are indeed stereotyped into them for one and two, if there isn't enough opportunity in more male dominated sectors then they are stuck.

for example, girls usually perform better than boys in school despite boys scoring and doing better in Math when they get to high school and college. you just don't stop learning math differently due to gender unless there's some sort of cultural stereotype that pushes girls away from STEM classes.

Equality of outcome IS reasonable. what is unreasonable is thinking that it isn't. there have been brilliant women in history and there's really no scientific evidence to believe that the female brain is less intelligent than a male's brain, therefore if 1/2 the population is female, you would expect 1/2 of "Directors, CEOs, Nurses" would be female. yet it isn't. that's not due to natural causes, that is due to cultural causes.

and studies have shown that women are just as equal perpetrators of domestic violence as men are. imagine what it would be like if girls were told that they were equals to boys besides the obvious differences.

[tonman]

Having the future raised by two parents sounds like quite the fix. Her "facts" says children raised by single parents are more prone to crime.

Again, her fact is not wrong but her solution is. Nobody should be forced to give up their children involuntarily unless there has been proof of abuse. This does not happen in the animal kingdom and it shouldn't happen amongst the most civilized species.

in the animal kingdom, the mother would kick butt if someone tries to mess with her child.

a child being raised by one or two parents makes no difference except from a resource standpoint. both my parents worked so does it really matter how many parents I had when they were not home when I got home from school? perhaps if the income gap wasn't so large or the fact that wages weren't stagnant, then perhaps it would be less of a financial burden on a single parent.

and what if that single parent or their child was surrounded by grandparents, cousins, aunt and uncles? you can make facts say whatever depending on how you context the data.