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[MrDollarBills]

My views of women and trans are similar to those of Peterson and Shapiro.

Yes, they are...completely sexist, misogynistic and bigoted.

[13th Man]

My views of women and trans are similar to those of Peterson and Shapiro.

Yes, they are...completely sexist, misogynistic and bigoted.

So trans people aren't mentally ill or confused individuals? Do you realize the suicide rates amongst this group, it is abnormally high. And who do they blame for this? Society or a result of being bullied or being mistreated by the normal folks. When I grew up they were called transvestites, they were sick individuals. Now they are apparently normal people who just happened to be identified incorrectly by their peers. Yes, it's all our fault, nothing wrong with them or their parents with f*cked up ideaologies. Parents that would transform their kids into another gender even before they understand what's going on. So now due to our bigotry, we should change our speech to appease how these confused individuals would like to be identified as?

You guys don't care about facts nor the truth. The left has been spouting off nonsense and pushing nonsensical agendas to satisfy new victim groups. Simply ridiculous.

[13th Man]

You literally talk out of both sides of your mouth.

and again, you keep going on tirades about the left and calling people who disagree with you leftists. I keep telling you that you're not arguing with some hippie liberal.

Being called a leftist is a lot tamer than being called alt-right or racist. How would you suggest I call someone with a leftist point of view? I can't call them snowflakes, cucks or extreme left. Perhaps a new word in the dictionary as to not offend anybody?

[AndySF]

My views of women and trans are similar to those of Peterson and Shapiro.

Yes, they are...completely sexist, misogynistic and bigoted.

So trans people aren't mentally ill or confused individuals? Do you realize the suicide rates amongst this group, it is abnormally high. And who do they blame for this? Society or a result of being bullied or being mistreated by the normal folks. When I grew up they were called transvestites, they were sick individuals. Now they are apparently normal people who just happened to be identified incorrectly by their peers. Yes, it's all our fault, nothing wrong with them or their parents with f*cked up ideaologies. Parents that would transform their kids into another gender even before they understand what's going on. So now due to our bigotry, we should change our speech to appease how these confused individuals would like to be identified as?

You guys don't care about facts nor the truth. The left has been spouting off nonsense and pushing nonsensical agendas to satisfy new victim groups. Simply ridiculous.

Have you ever consider yourself mentally ill? You sure sound like it. Who have the right to judge other human being? Who set the standard? If people don't agree eith you 100% percent, you insult them. Had I call you a racist? Or any other name? Yet, I am leftist and a cuck. You sure have strong moral compass and human decency

[13th Man]

Yes, they are...completely sexist, misogynistic and bigoted.

So trans people aren't mentally ill or confused individuals? Do you realize the suicide rates amongst this group, it is abnormally high. And who do they blame for this? Society or a result of being bullied or being mistreated by the normal folks. When I grew up they were called transvestites, they were sick individuals. Now they are apparently normal people who just happened to be identified incorrectly by their peers. Yes, it's all our fault, nothing wrong with them or their parents with f*cked up ideaologies. Parents that would transform their kids into another gender even before they understand what's going on. So now due to our bigotry, we should change our speech to appease how these confused individuals would like to be identified as?

You guys don't care about facts nor the truth. The left has been spouting off nonsense and pushing nonsensical agendas to satisfy new victim groups. Simply ridiculous.

Have you ever consider yourself mentally ill? You sure sound like it. Who have the right to judge other human being? Who set the standard? If people don't agree eith you 100% percent, you insult them. Had I call you a racist? Or any other name? Yet, I am leftist and a cuck. You sure have strong moral compass and human decency

I apologize for calling you a cuck. I didn't agree with your take at all, was tired and wanted to call it a night. I don't even know that cuck is all that offensive but I will refrain from using it since it apparently is.

How is being called a leftist offensive? Is it is, then that would mean that it has huge negative connotations does it not? Why are you guys so defensive about having leftist views?

On the other hand, you guys including a moderator have been calling me alt-right which is even more extreme so what gives here? Hypocrite much?

[13th Man]

There are many articles on the alarming rate of suicides amongst the transgender, here's one from 2 seconds of googling:

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2017/05/04/Study-shows-rising-rates-of-suicidal-acts-in-transgender-adults/4561493909781

Study shows rising rates of suicidal acts in transgender adults

The analysis of transgender suicidality studies showed transgender adults are 14 times more likely to think about suicide and 22 times more likely to attempt suicide than the general public.

Suicidality and other forms of mental health distress are health disparities that increasingly are being documented and studied in the academic literature as disproportionately affecting transgender people and populations," Dr. Robert Garofalo, a professor of pediatrics and preventive medicine at Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine, said in a press release.



I didn't copy the entire article but you can quickly get the gist of it. Transgender are mentally f*cked up individuals, I'm sorry if you can't accept the truth and want to delicately shield them from any form of criticism.

[MrDollarBills]

My views of women and trans are similar to those of Peterson and Shapiro.

Yes, they are...completely sexist, misogynistic and bigoted.

So trans people aren't mentally ill or confused individuals? Do you realize the suicide rates amongst this group, it is abnormally high. And who do they blame for this? Society or a result of being bullied or being mistreated by the normal folks. When I grew up they were called transvestites, they were sick individuals. Now they are apparently normal people who just happened to be identified incorrectly by their peers. Yes, it's all our fault, nothing wrong with them or their parents with f*cked up ideaologies. Parents that would transform their kids into another gender even before they understand what's going on. So now due to our bigotry, we should change our speech to appease how these confused individuals would like to be identified as?

You guys don't care about facts nor the truth. The left has been spouting off nonsense and pushing nonsensical agendas to satisfy new victim groups. Simply ridiculous.

It amazes me that you want to accuse others about not caring about facts or the truth when you're in here spewing a disgusting lie that has been slapped down by both the American Psychiatric Association and the American Medical Association about Transgender people and their mental health.

These people are human beings. If someone wants to be addressed in a certain manner, be a decent human being and respect their wishes. It's not that hard.

You talk about how you're all about love and peace, and then you say repugnant things like you've done above, or what you've said about women, and you expect people to think you're anything other than a really effed up person? You are devoid of empathy and come across as being utterly hateful.

I would dare you to air these awful views at your place of employment. See what happens to you.

You sound like someone's bitter ass old uncle who didn't get the memo that being a raging bigot went out of style back in the 20th century.

[13th Man]

I'm sorry if feelings are hurt, It's called reality. I posted alarming facts about the abnormally high suicidal rates of the transgender and you turn it into an emotional thing. Addressing them in a certain manner isn't going to decrease their suicide rate. As I mentioned to Rich Rane before, fix the root of the problem, not try to mitigate it's outcome or byproduct.

Man, the left are always trying to place blame onto others, how about fix the **** that you guys have caused in the first place by introducing this stupid ass agenda.

When I was growing up, transgender were known as transvestites with sick mental problems and there were a lot less of them too. Then some weird narrative spawned over the last decade or something which treated these people as normal folks and following the lead of celebrities like Kirk Jenner or whatever his/her name is...Bruce Jenner. Now you have parents transforming their kids into another gender at an early age and you wonder why 40% percent of them end up committing suicide before they turn 22.

You guys created this monster, don't blame it on the common public for their mental health issues. Sheeesh....typical leftist mentality. Take no accountability while blaming everybody else for their woes that they've created in the first place.

[MrDollarBills]

There are many articles on the alarming rate of suicides amongst the transgender, here's one from 2 seconds of googling:

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2017/05/04/Study-shows-rising-rates-of-suicidal-acts-in-transgender-adults/4561493909781

Study shows rising rates of suicidal acts in transgender adults

The analysis of transgender suicidality studies showed transgender adults are 14 times more likely to think about suicide and 22 times more likely to attempt suicide than the general public.

Suicidality and other forms of mental health distress are health disparities that increasingly are being documented and studied in the academic literature as disproportionately affecting transgender people and populations," Dr. Robert Garofalo, a professor of pediatrics and preventive medicine at Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine, said in a press release.



I didn't copy the entire article but you can quickly get the gist of it. Transgender are mentally f*cked up individuals, I'm sorry if you can't accept the truth and want to delicately shield them from any form of criticism.

https://www.vox.com/cards/transgender-myths-fiction-facts/transgender-people-mentally-ill-myth

Major medical organizations, like the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association, say being transgender is not a mental disorder.

The APA explained this in explicit terms when it stopped using the term "gender identity disorder" in favor of "gender dysphoria": "Part of removing stigma is about choosing the right words. Replacing 'disorder' with 'dysphoria' in the diagnostic label is not only more appropriate and consistent with familiar clinical sexology terminology, it also removes the connotation that the patient is 'disordered.'"

Gender dysphoria — a state of emotional distress caused by how someone's body or the gender they were assigned at birth conflicts with their gender identity — is a widely recognized medical condition. If untreated, it can lead to severe mental health issues, including debilitating depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation.

But the AMA, APA, and other medical experts agree that letting someone transition, which can entail medical treatments like hormone therapy and gender-affirming surgeries, without social stigma is the main treatment for gender dysphoria. In this way, being trans isn't the medical condition; living as trans is in fact the treatment to the medical condition.

And not all trans people deal with severe dysphoria. It's barely or not present for some trans people, while it's mentally excruciating for others.

These facts show that psychological distress and disability aren't inherent to being trans, so being trans doesn't meet the definition of a mental disorder (a psychological state that causes significant distress and disability).

Excuse me while I take the opinion of accredited professionals in the field of medicine and mental health over the opinion of some dude who calls people "cucks".

[13th Man]

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;' Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’

(CNSNews.com) -- Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder.

Dr. McHugh, the author of six books and at least 125 peer-reviewed medical articles, made his remarks in a recent commentary in the Wall Street Journal, where he explained that transgender surgery is not the solution for people who suffer a “disorder of ‘assumption’” – the notion that their maleness or femaleness is different than what nature assigned to them biologically.

He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”

While the Obama administration, Hollywood, and major media such as Time magazine promote transgenderism as normal, said Dr. McHugh, these “policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the transgendered by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention.”

[13th Man]

Just use your common sense. If you have a group of people 20x more likely to commit suicide than the norm, something is mentally off with them. Doesn't take Freud to come to this conclusion.

The public is just too damn PC these days and are too afraid to say anything that might hurt people's feelings.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm sorry if feelings are hurt, It's called reality. I posted alarming facts about the abnormally high suicidal rates of the transgender and you turn it into an emotional thing. Addressing them in a certain manner isn't going to decrease their suicide rate. As I mentioned to Rich Rane before, fix the root of the problem, not try to mitigate it's outcome or byproduct. Man, the left are always trying to place blame onto others, how about fix the **** that you guys have caused in the first place by introducing this stupid ass agenda.

No one's feelings are hurt...I'm not the one who gets butthurt when his awful views are challenged and runs away from a discussion. That's you. I'm just pointing out how ignorant you are. The high suicide rate of LGBTQ people is not an indicator of trans people being mentally ill. However:

http://actionallianceforsuicideprevention.blogspot.com/2012/04/national-action-alliance-for-suicide.html

The reasons that suicide is a lifelong concern for many LGBT people are complex and dynamic. These risk factors include family rejection, lack of social support, lack of access to culturally competent healthcare providers, and the stress of living with discrimination and prejudice.

Transphobic and hateful attitudes like yours that exist within society however, help add to the distress that these people have to deal with on a daily basis.

The next time you go on a spiel about how you're all above love and what not, I'll just simply repost the nonsense you've been spewing about other human beings to show that in fact, you are not above any of what you claim. You're just a bigot. Nothing more or less.

[MrDollarBills]

Just use your common sense. If you have a group of people 20x more likely to commit suicide than the norm, something is mentally off with them. Doesn't take Freud to come to this conclusion.

The public is just too damn PC these days and are too afraid to say anything that might hurt people's feelings.

Excuse me while I take the opinion of accredited professionals in the field of medicine and mental health over the opinion of some dude who calls people "cucks".

[TheBrooklynKidd]

Keep in mind, this was all BEFORE he announced his candidacy and people still voted for him. Now people are sticking with him rather than admitting they were wrong that he would change.

It’s the main reason I think this country is screwed beyond belief. People in this country are so stubborn and they love their misery as long as they can point to someone who is more miserable than them (immigrants, gays, blacks etc.).

Personally I think the country is going to collapse on itself into anarchy. People think that the recession in 2008 was bad, wait until the recession in 2025 (or earlier) where not only will people lose their jobs but will find that they have been replaced by a machine. Wait until every cab, truck and train driver are replaced by machines which will just be the beginning. These scenarios are much closer to becoming a reality than we want to believe. Do you think we’ll be able to put aside our differences long enough to fix a problem that humanity has never faced? I sure as hell don’t.

Sorry for going on a little rant towards the end

I disagree.

While I believe that the workforce is going to undergo a massive overhaul and there will be some painful times ahead and the need for change, retraining, etc, I don't think this country is screwed.

the voting bloc that paved the way for this current administration isn't exactly growing. they are dwindling. the GOP is all but making sure that they won't ever hold a majority again for a decade (or even worse, their party just dies). We are seeing the children that were born after 9-11 pushing back well before some of them are even of voting age.

We can look at history and see that every downturn in this country was a result of the majority voting based off of their xenophobia and racism. what happens when the majority isn't the majority and the dominant voting bloc is a collective of people from all walks of life that truly represent what America is supposed to be?

i think good things will happen. this current moment in US history is leading towards an enlightenment i think. people with views like 13th man will become the outlier. this is why people like him lash out at "the left" and are so angry. deep down, they realize that change is at hand where antiquated views about society at large are about to be thrown in the trash. i believe that there will be universal healthcare in the United States. I believe we will shift towards forward thinking technology when it comes to energy.

of course, we all may end up dying in the next 2 years if a nuclear exchange happens, but i'll ride on the idea that cooler heads prevail.

Sorry for the late response I wanted to make sure I had the time to write a thorough answer.

The main reason I think that this country is screwed regardless of the make up of the voting block is that our so called “democracy” is designed so that people in rural, mostly white states have more political power than the rest of us. People talk about the influence of money in politics and the flaws of the electoral college, but those are all things that could realistically be changed in the coming years if the house and senate flip.

One of the main issues that we cant change is the senate. It was actually designed to give people in rural states (conservative whites) a disproportionate representation in Washington in order to please the poorly populated south during our early days as a country. To put it in perspective, if you took the combined populations of North Dakota, South Dakota, Alaska, Wyoming and Montana it is more or less the same population of Brooklyn + Queens or L.A.+ surrounding counties. Yet those people have 10 senators combined while Brooklyn/Queens and LA each have zero despite having a similar population. The House of Representatives also faces a similar albeit less severe skew towards rural whites. The problem is that this is written into the constitution and would require the vast majority of states to approve of a change. That would mean that states would have to voluntarily give up power which we all know they would never do.

The reason that a changing voting block won’t have an impact in this country compared to other democracies is because minorities are more likely to live in highly populated states and cities therefore diluting their political power. Young minorities aren’t moving to Alaska or Wyoming or the Dakotas and those states along with others will maintain their disproportionate white conservative representation. In the south, minorities suffer from decades of voter suppression, gerrymandering and things that are unspeakable. Because of all of these systematic things it will be incredibly difficult to wrestle control from conservative whites even if we get money out of politics and change the electoral college.

There are a lot more things to talk about such as Republicans oppressing their own voter block in order to keep them ignorant and the grip that Fox News has on the minds of these misfortunate individuals but I think I’ve said enough.

[13th Man]

I'm sorry if feelings are hurt, It's called reality. I posted alarming facts about the abnormally high suicidal rates of the transgender and you turn it into an emotional thing. Addressing them in a certain manner isn't going to decrease their suicide rate. As I mentioned to Rich Rane before, fix the root of the problem, not try to mitigate it's outcome or byproduct. Man, the left are always trying to place blame onto others, how about fix the **** that you guys have caused in the first place by introducing this stupid ass agenda.

No one's feelings are hurt...I'm not the one who gets butthurt when his awful views are challenged and runs away from a discussion. That's you. I'm just pointing out how ignorant you are. The high suicide rate of LGBTQ people is not an indicator of trans people being mentally ill. However:

http://actionallianceforsuicideprevention.blogspot.com/2012/04/national-action-alliance-for-suicide.html

The reasons that suicide is a lifelong concern for many LGBT people are complex and dynamic. These risk factors include family rejection, lack of social support, lack of access to culturally competent healthcare providers, and the stress of living with discrimination and prejudice.

Transphobic and hateful attitudes like yours that exist within society however, help add to the distress that these people have to deal with on a daily basis.

The next time you go on a spiel about how you're all above love and what not, I'll just simply repost the nonsense you've been spewing about other human beings to show that in fact, you are not above any of what you claim. You're just a bigot. Nothing more or less.

Lets not lump LGB into the trans movement that has spawned over the last decade. LGB are genetically defective people that end up being attracted to their same gender or both. Yes, I do realize that it sounds extremely cruel but I prefer to be blunt and not sugar coat things that I deem to be factual. Yes, they have faced discrimination and I do sympathize with them; I have had gay friends and respected gay colleagues and I have no problems with them whatsoever. I cannot fault them for being born gay.

What I do have a problem with is the T part which is the trans movement. You guys have normalized them over the past decade; proof by your article of Physicians or whatever where they deem to not be mentally ill. The result of this? 20x the suicidal rate compared to the norm.

So now what is the solution? The onus is on the public to change our speech. which is unprecedented; never before have we been mandated by law to speak a certain way. Yeah it is OUR fault and it is MY mentality that is the problem here.

How about this novel idea? You guys created this monster, how about you take some accountability for it? Own up to it and fix your own **** rather than blaming everybody else for extremely dangerous and critical agenda that you have created?

How many more victim groups are you going to spawn up, mess things up then blame the rest of us for it?

[AndySF]

So trans people aren't mentally ill or confused individuals? Do you realize the suicide rates amongst this group, it is abnormally high. And who do they blame for this? Society or a result of being bullied or being mistreated by the normal folks. When I grew up they were called transvestites, they were sick individuals. Now they are apparently normal people who just happened to be identified incorrectly by their peers. Yes, it's all our fault, nothing wrong with them or their parents with f*cked up ideaologies. Parents that would transform their kids into another gender even before they understand what's going on. So now due to our bigotry, we should change our speech to appease how these confused individuals would like to be identified as?

You guys don't care about facts nor the truth. The left has been spouting off nonsense and pushing nonsensical agendas to satisfy new victim groups. Simply ridiculous.

Have you ever consider yourself mentally ill? You sure sound like it. Who have the right to judge other human being? Who set the standard? If people don't agree eith you 100% percent, you insult them. Had I call you a racist? Or any other name? Yet, I am leftist and a cuck. You sure have strong moral compass and human decency

I apologize for calling you a cuck. I didn't agree with your take at all, was tired and wanted to call it a night. I don't even know that cuck is all that offensive but I will refrain from using it since it apparently is.

How is being called a leftist offensive? Is it is, then that would mean that it has huge negative connotations does it not? Why are you guys so defensive about having leftist views?

On the other hand, you guys including a moderator have been calling me alt-right which is even more extreme so what gives here? Hypocrite much?

There you go grouping people just like the people you accusing. Who's you guys? There but one me that I am aware of. I can't be offended by stupid name calling since you don't know me. I have a problem with your reflection bt bring what others do into this conversation. Show me a quote where I say any of the things you accuse me of.
I don't like being assigned lable because i despise both the left and the right.and you taking a side is the root of the problem.
You keep saying people are close minded, yet you continue to bring up the past and what used to be. The world had changed, move with it or be left behind. You also continue to judge people who choose to live their life as they see fit because that some how will effect you or your family. Well, only if you are weak. I don't have to agree with gay life style or any other life style. But it's not my place to judge, and it's not my life. People have a right to live their life without harassment. Is it so hard to have the basic human decency to treat other human being as you would like to treated? Is there any wonder that others treated you the same way you treated other human being who simply don't share your beliefs? I believe in personal accountability, how can you have that when you stick your nose in other people's bedroom? Their bodies? And their choice?

[TheBrooklynKidd]

I'm sorry if feelings are hurt, It's called reality. I posted alarming facts about the abnormally high suicidal rates of the transgender and you turn it into an emotional thing. Addressing them in a certain manner isn't going to decrease their suicide rate. As I mentioned to Rich Rane before, fix the root of the problem, not try to mitigate it's outcome or byproduct. Man, the left are always trying to place blame onto others, how about fix the **** that you guys have caused in the first place by introducing this stupid ass agenda.

No one's feelings are hurt...I'm not the one who gets butthurt when his awful views are challenged and runs away from a discussion. That's you. I'm just pointing out how ignorant you are. The high suicide rate of LGBTQ people is not an indicator of trans people being mentally ill. However:

http://actionallianceforsuicideprevention.blogspot.com/2012/04/national-action-alliance-for-suicide.html

The reasons that suicide is a lifelong concern for many LGBT people are complex and dynamic. These risk factors include family rejection, lack of social support, lack of access to culturally competent healthcare providers, and the stress of living with discrimination and prejudice.

Transphobic and hateful attitudes like yours that exist within society however, help add to the distress that these people have to deal with on a daily basis.

The next time you go on a spiel about how you're all above love and what not, I'll just simply repost the nonsense you've been spewing about other human beings to show that in fact, you are not above any of what you claim. You're just a bigot. Nothing more or less.

Lets not lump LGB into the trans movement that has spawned over the last decade. LGB are genetically defective people that end up being attracted to their same gender or both. Yes, I do realize that it sounds extremely cruel but I prefer to be blunt and not sugar coat things that I deem to be factual. Yes, they have faced discrimination and I do sympathize with them; I have had gay friends and respected gay colleagues and I have no problems with them whatsoever. I cannot fault them for being born gay.

What I do have a problem with is the T part which is the trans movement. You guys have normalized them over the past decade; proof by your article of Physicians or whatever where they deem to not be mentally ill. The result of this? 20x the suicidal rate compared to the norm.

So now what is the solution? The onus is on the public to change our speech. which is unprecedented; never before have we been mandated by law to speak a certain way. Yeah it is OUR fault and it is MY mentality that is the problem here.

How about this novel idea? You guys created this monster, how about you take some accountability for it? Own up to it and fix your own **** rather than blaming everybody else for extremely dangerous and critical agenda that you have created?

How many more victim groups are you going to spawn up, mess things up then blame the rest of us for it?

The ignorance of your pseudoscience is disgusting.

Yes LGB is genetically linked but to call is “defective” is ignorant and any evolutionary biologist or geneticist would disagree with you. I know this because it was my major. Don’t talk about these things that you have no understanding of. Just like when you spewed your bull**** about women needing alpha men when in fact any evolutionary biologist or even a a regular old dog breeder would say that men are incredibly expendable and the main thing the offer to a population is their expendability.

To claim that LGB people have genetic links and that trans people do not is also incredibly ignorant. Yes being trans is a “mental disorder” BUT it has legitimate genetic and biological underlinings. A simple ****ing google search will turn up many biological disorders that can result in Gender Disphoria which is the actual clinical term dip****.

Now I’m not done proving that you are in fact a bigot trying to use pseudoscience to peddle your disgusting views. Along with your ignorance in biology you are also incredibly ignorant when it comes to the treatment of mental disorders. The vast majority of mental disorders do not have a cure. The main goal of treatment is to mitigate the negative aspects of the disorder. For example people with dyslexia are accommodated in academia by giving them extra time on tests, note takers etc. When someone is autistic we accomadate them as well. Gender Dysphoria has no cure and it isn’t something that was created by the left that’s easily the stupidest **** you’ve said in this thread and that’s saying something because every single one of your posts includes something ignorant.

Why do you support accomadations for other people with incurable mental disorders but not Trans people? Oh we know, it’s because you’re a worthless bigot who’s been brainwashed by Fox News. I’ve really been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here too but you have proven to me that you are truly a disgusting human being that is incapable of accepting that facts contradict your ignorant views.

Don’t bother responding, you should just leave the thread and take your ignorance with you. We don’t want you here.

[Rich Rane]

Lets not lump LGB into the trans movement that has spawned over the last decade. LGB are genetically defective people that end up being attracted to their same gender or both. Yes, I do realize that it sounds extremely cruel but I prefer to be blunt and not sugar coat things that I deem to be factual. Yes, they have faced discrimination and I do sympathize with them;

As a straight man, boy I'd like to tell you to off.

I have had gay friends and respected gay colleagues and I have no problems with them whatsoever.

"had" sounds about right.

never before have we been mandated by law to speak a certain way.

What mandated law again?

[MrDollarBills]

This guy just called gay and lesbian people "genetically defective". Now you're trending into nazi ideological territory.

I'm not going to dignify the rest of your vomit with a direct response. I don't want to hear any garbage about you having "gay friends" or whatever lie that will come rolling out of your mouth from here on out. You don't have any gay "friends" if you have dehumanizing views about them like the ones you have expressed here. Either that, or you're one of those scumbags that acts all friendly to people in public but behind closed doors you're an entirely different person. Whatever. But I will end it with this:

13th Man, you are a vile and garbage excuse for a human being. Complete and absolute garbage.

[Roy Tarpley]

Ok, I gotta block 13th man. I have no problems with opposing points of view but I can't take anyone who uses the word "cuck" seriously, especially if he doesn't know what it means.