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Our front office is abysmal. How do you not move Tyreke? We will now likely end up with a draft pick outside of the Top 7 in a draft that is top loaded and then watch Evans leave this offseason for nothing. Wallace has been bad, but this is inexcusable.
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This is why tanking and keeping the same decision makers in place makes no sense.
They are clearly inept by nature and whomever empowers them to make decisions is just as culpable.
They are clearly inept by nature and whomever empowers them to make decisions is just as culpable.
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They asked for Saric for Evans lmao.
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Agreed. Now se just need to accept the loss and cut Evans, so se can suco and he can fins a contender
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BarbaGrizz wrote:Agreed. Now se just need to accept the loss and cut Evans, so se can suco and he can fins a contender
Unfortunately they won't. It would be admitting they botched the deadline for absolutely no reason.
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I completely agree that the front office needs to go. That is a given. Chris Wallace and his horrible drafts, Parson signing and other issues have severely handicapped this franchise.
My hope is that MEM has not completely ruined Tyreke. For years, we have needed a scoring SG, now we have one that is having arguably one of the best statistical seasons in the history of the franchise. We desperately need to resign him to a long term deal. Tyreke is not a great defender, but Conley can help make up for that. In all reality, we could easily be a playoff team next year with minimal tweaking.
PG: Conley/Harrison
SG: Evans/McLemore/Selden
SF: Brooks/Parsons
PF: Green/Martin/Rabb
C: Gasol/Davis
Can you imagine drafting in the lottery and landing a Bagley/Ayton/Carter to start in the front court alongside Gasol? This is a "once every ten years draft for bigmen". We have to use our pick there, especially with Gasol's age.
Then fill out the Wing positions with our 3 2nd rounders.
This team is right there, but they have to resign Evans and make him feel wanted. With a couple of minor deals, and renouncing Harrison, the Grizz could clear $10 million to resign Tyreke.
If they dont resign Tyreke, then they would have to draft a rookie SG that might have a big learning curve like Porter.
My hope is that MEM has not completely ruined Tyreke. For years, we have needed a scoring SG, now we have one that is having arguably one of the best statistical seasons in the history of the franchise. We desperately need to resign him to a long term deal. Tyreke is not a great defender, but Conley can help make up for that. In all reality, we could easily be a playoff team next year with minimal tweaking.
PG: Conley/Harrison
SG: Evans/McLemore/Selden
SF: Brooks/Parsons
PF: Green/Martin/Rabb
C: Gasol/Davis
Can you imagine drafting in the lottery and landing a Bagley/Ayton/Carter to start in the front court alongside Gasol? This is a "once every ten years draft for bigmen". We have to use our pick there, especially with Gasol's age.
Then fill out the Wing positions with our 3 2nd rounders.
This team is right there, but they have to resign Evans and make him feel wanted. With a couple of minor deals, and renouncing Harrison, the Grizz could clear $10 million to resign Tyreke.
If they dont resign Tyreke, then they would have to draft a rookie SG that might have a big learning curve like Porter.
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boogiesdad wrote:I completely agree that the front office needs to go. That is a given. Chris Wallace and his horrible drafts, Parson signing and other issues have severely handicapped this franchise.
My hope is that MEM has not completely ruined Tyreke. For years, we have needed a scoring SG, now we have one that is having arguably one of the best statistical seasons in the history of the franchise. We desperately need to resign him to a long term deal. Tyreke is not a great defender, but Conley can help make up for that. In all reality, we could easily be a playoff team next year with minimal tweaking.
PG: Conley/Harrison
SG: Evans/McLemore/Selden
SF: Brooks/Parsons
PF: Green/Martin/Rabb
C: Gasol/Davis
Can you imagine drafting in the lottery and landing a Bagley/Ayton/Carter to start in the front court alongside Gasol? This is a "once every ten years draft for bigmen". We have to use our pick there, especially with Gasol's age.
Then fill out the Wing positions with our 3 2nd rounders.
This team is right there, but they have to resign Evans and make him feel wanted. With a couple of minor deals, and renouncing Harrison, the Grizz could clear $10 million to resign Tyreke.
If they dont resign Tyreke, then they would have to draft a rookie SG that might have a big learning curve like Porter.
I don't think that the Grizzlies can get 10mil to sign Evans with cap space. Gasol/Conley/Parsons is about 79mil. Green is 8mil, we have 1.5mil in dead cap, and you have cap holds for the other roster spots even if you magically move anyone making not the minimum. MLE is the best we can do. Also, Evans playing will likely hurt our draft pick. Without him, we had a chance at Bagley/Ayton/Doncic. Now we are probably looking at Carter or one of the Bridges.
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The $10 million is very doable.
Currently, we are looking at a projected cap of $110m. We are on the books for $101.7m. There's $8.3m, not counting anything else.
Ben McLemore will probably take a buyout, and who is to say we can't move Rabb, Zagorac, or Selden and their deals that expire next year at draft time for cash considerations or the $3.4m Troy Daniels TE that is still active until 9/2018 (yes, you can't trade a player and a TE, but there are ways around that)... any combination of moves opens up the $10m.
We are also not counting that there is potential that Chandler doesn't make it back and his deal goes away from the cap.
To say that we can't clear $10m, is not a fair statement, because we can easily clear more.
We need a high volume SG, and that is Evans.
Currently, we are looking at a projected cap of $110m. We are on the books for $101.7m. There's $8.3m, not counting anything else.
Ben McLemore will probably take a buyout, and who is to say we can't move Rabb, Zagorac, or Selden and their deals that expire next year at draft time for cash considerations or the $3.4m Troy Daniels TE that is still active until 9/2018 (yes, you can't trade a player and a TE, but there are ways around that)... any combination of moves opens up the $10m.
We are also not counting that there is potential that Chandler doesn't make it back and his deal goes away from the cap.
To say that we can't clear $10m, is not a fair statement, because we can easily clear more.
We need a high volume SG, and that is Evans.
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boogiesdad wrote:The $10 million is very doable.
Currently, we are looking at a projected cap of $110m. We are on the books for $101.7m. There's $8.3m, not counting anything else.
Ben McLemore will probably take a buyout, and who is to say we can't move Rabb, Zagorac, or Selden and their deals that expire next year at draft time for cash considerations or the $3.4m Troy Daniels TE that is still active until 9/2018 (yes, you can't trade a player and a TE, but there are ways around that)... any combination of moves opens up the $10m.
We are also not counting that there is potential that Chandler doesn't make it back and his deal goes away from the cap.
To say that we can't clear $10m, is not a fair statement, because we can easily clear more.
We need a high volume SG, and that is Evans.
The current projected salary cap for next year is 102m. There was a point where it was projected at around 110m, but sadly that was a gross overestimation and the cause of a cap crunch for a lot of teams. Rabb is playing well and on a minimum contract so even if you move him you'd just have to replace him with someone of basically equal cost unless we plan on not having a full roster. Zagorac was cut and is dead money that can't be moved. Seldon would be our backup SG and is again cheap so same problem as Rabb. Ben may take a buyout but that still counts against the salary cap. I also think that 101.7m isn't counting a top 10 draft pick which will cost us another couple million in salary. Unless we move Ben, Green, and anyone else not making the minimum I don't think it's possible for us. Evans is good, but not gut the roster good.
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boogiesdad wrote:The $10 million is very doable.
Currently, we are looking at a projected cap of $110m. We are on the books for $101.7m. There's $8.3m, not counting anything else.
Ben McLemore will probably take a buyout, and who is to say we can't move Rabb, Zagorac, or Selden and their deals that expire next year at draft time for cash considerations or the $3.4m Troy Daniels TE that is still active until 9/2018 (yes, you can't trade a player and a TE, but there are ways around that)... any combination of moves opens up the $10m.
We are also not counting that there is potential that Chandler doesn't make it back and his deal goes away from the cap.
To say that we can't clear $10m, is not a fair statement, because we can easily clear more.
We need a high volume SG, and that is Evans.
The cap estimate was reduced last September. Next season's cap should only be $101M. Here are my calculations for max salaries over the next two years:

Grizzlies don't have bird rights for Evans so they can only offer 5% salary increases (same as every team.) Not many teams will have cap space so you can probably get to where you need.

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The front office fell flat on their faces at the trade deadline. I get the Ennis trade to some extent. What was the point of getting Brice Johnson when we have Ivan Rabb already in development stages. Maybe for competition purposes I guess.
And they couldn't find a taker for Brendan Wright and his expiring deal is even more laughable. Too bad that GMs can't be traded at the trade deadline as much as players.
And they couldn't find a taker for Brendan Wright and his expiring deal is even more laughable. Too bad that GMs can't be traded at the trade deadline as much as players.
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Now Chandler and Gasol are sitting nobody has any reason to cheer for them. I am going to cancel my league Pass likely this offseason and my interest in this team is reaching Rock bottom
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I'm fine shutting Parsons down. He played well at the beginning of the season and if we want to compete next year, he has to play that way all 82 games. Let him rest and get fully healthy and hope to minimize the loss that is his contract. Gasol is the one I feel for. He is a true competitor and this losing has to be absolutely killing him. If we can actually get a healthy team next year and our ill-advised gamble with Reke pays off we could have a decent team.
Conley/Harrison/Chalmers (if we want to resign)
Evans/Seldon/McLemore
Doncic or Porter?/Brooks/Henry
Green/Parsons/Rabb/Martin
Gasol/DD
Conley/Harrison/Chalmers (if we want to resign)
Evans/Seldon/McLemore
Doncic or Porter?/Brooks/Henry
Green/Parsons/Rabb/Martin
Gasol/DD
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vanjulio wrote:Now Chandler and Gasol are sitting nobody has any reason to cheer for them. I am going to cancel my league Pass likely this offseason and my interest in this team is reaching Rock bottom
It was inevitable that this team was going in this direction. It's sad, but not surprising. My interest not only for this team but in the NBA wavered this season. I've been keeping up in some increments. The season hasn't been all that exciting to me overall. I'll look forward to the offseason and see if changes will be made with the Grizzlies from top to bottom. If so, this team and organization will have some ways to go before finding their relevance in the league again.