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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#181 » by El Chivo » Sat Mar 3, 2018 8:28 am

I still don't blame the trade at all. But coaching has been brutal.

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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#182 » by TheNewEra » Sat Mar 3, 2018 7:24 pm

buzzkilloton wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Let's take a stroll through the Clipper forum comments on the trade...(this is just the first three pages)

wtf... seriously?

I don't get this at all.

Couldn't even get Luke Kennard or Stanley Johnson....what the hell man.

What the hell happened !!

this is upsetting and doesn't make any sense to me at all.

This is insane

I’m disgusted ?!?

That return for Blake seems extremely low. Sounds like more what I'd expect in a DeAndre Jordan expiring contract.

what the hell this is f*cking awful

That's a late lotto for your franchise player. People thought Lou Williams by himself might bring back that kind of return

what a stupid trade, they weren't even able t get one of their rookie-contract guys?

this whole thing is ridiculous

I was ok with trading Blake, but why in the middle of the season, when you can't even tank for a good pick, and for such a low return? what on earth was the rush?

Why Clips fans? Why this deal right now.

This franchise is absolutely delusional. They think the Pistons' pick is going to be a lottery pick, even though they now have Blake and Drummond. They traded Blake for garbage and are now looking to trade DJ and Lou, but they want to stay competitive and don't want to tank.

It's so obvious now that nothing really changed. GM Frank is just GM Doc with someone else taking the blame when things go wrong.

I feel bad for you as fans. I would be pissed. When I first saw the rumor I thought Drummond/Harris is value but then thought you guys must be rebuilding so it would have to be something like two firsts, Kennard, Johnson and Ellenson, along with Bradley's expiring or something. Not this.


Yeah thats why u gotta have a couple good writers and podcast to go to to figured out if your franchise won a trade. Their much more experts in these things then people posting in forums. My first instinct was dumb move then i went and read some articles and listened to pods from people who talk basketball for a living and I knew it was a really DUMB move.

I get why the clippers fans overreacted at first. They were actually in the playoffs at the time. First instinct on EVERY one of these trades for big name players over the past few years has been LOL terrible. Then with time we've seen actually all the teams moving the star have done very well for rebuilding their team outside of maybe the kings. Still the kings had to move Cousins so even they did good for themselves. Bulls and pacers killed their deals.. Cavs actually have ended up really nice as well, landing the net picks and turning their cap space into a nice support cast around Lebron.

Diff with the pistons compared to teams like the pels,wolves,celtics, and thunder is these teams are much further along in winning something. Pels got a superstar in Davis+Cousins was still a superstar. Celts already a 1st place caliber team when they got Kyrie. Wolves already had built the young core with a star. Thunder had Westbrook. Pistons made a trade when they were a lotto team and just had Drummond no where near the talent of the former teams. Not in the position to go for that win now move YET.

By next season at this time its going to be easy to see if its a good move or not. First judgement by most people when teams traded big name players over the past couple years was team who traded big name player lost but with a half season its been easy to see not the case at all.


+1 this about sums it up perfectly.


Last chance of hope for this team is if the offense flows better having a perimeter player that can get his own shot. As shown when Smith gets going but guys still haven’t won a non back to back opponent game. Idk what is wrong with Blake he is playing like Lonzo Ball low scoring near triple doubles when team needs efficient high scorer.
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#183 » by Rafiki » Sun Mar 4, 2018 12:06 am

Seems like this trade was a marketing strategy more than anything.
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#184 » by buzzkilloton » Sun Mar 4, 2018 12:59 am

Copied from the clippers Blake trade thread but man is this ugly

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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#185 » by captainrebel » Sun Mar 4, 2018 2:18 pm

bstein14 wrote:The truth is, Clippers were desperate to move on from Blake given his injury history, contract, and seeing they were not contenders the next few years.

NBA teams almost all held onto first round picks. Lots of decent players were out there but teams were refusing to give up firsts. We gave up two very solid (even if Bradley wasn't good for us) players and Harris is a much cheaper, more efficient on offense option than Blake.

We at the very least could have either gotten to keep our 2nd, if not gave up 2 seconds and keep our first. Or we could have make them take Leuer instead of Boban since we were absorbing so much salary from Blake.

We overpaid which is why the Clippers jumped on that deal several days in advance of the deadline. We were by far the highest bidders for him.


And I hope Pistons have high bids for Blake in the off-season because at this moment he's looking like Josh Smith who's salary is still on the books a decade later. SVG will be out at season's end if not this very week. 2 more consecutive losses and he is out.
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#186 » by russkopp » Sun Mar 4, 2018 2:31 pm

At this point, Blake is almost untradeable. Reggie is an injury risk and our SG and SF aren’t high quality starters...yet.

Anyone else wondering if a new GM may see what he can get for Dre this summer. New PG or SF some young guys and picks?
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#187 » by aad » Sun Mar 4, 2018 2:35 pm

Arn tellem is gonna be our new GM
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#188 » by DCintheD » Sun Mar 4, 2018 4:55 pm

aad wrote:Arn tellem is gonna be our new GM

He’ll be president of b-ball operations. He is supposed to hire a GM unless he wants to take on both roles. If that’s the case there’s no reason to be optimistic. Hopefully he does what the fans want and hires Chauncey.
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#189 » by Kntrl » Sun Mar 4, 2018 5:34 pm

DCintheD wrote:
aad wrote:Arn tellem is gonna be our new GM

He’ll be president of b-ball operations. He is supposed to hire a GM unless he wants to take on both roles. If that’s the case there’s no reason to be optimistic. Hopefully he does what the fans want and hires Chauncey.



Please god no Chauncey. I want a whiz kid Type. Not a ex player
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#190 » by Snakebites » Sun Mar 4, 2018 6:00 pm

Yeah...

I see no reason to think Chauncey would be a good GM for us. I want someone with an analytical approach to get us out of this mess. But honestly we might as well just sit back and wait for Blake's contract to be almost over. No positive development is going to happen with that yolk around our necks.
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#191 » by captainrebel » Mon Mar 5, 2018 1:59 am

Snakebites wrote:Yeah...

I see no reason to think Chauncey would be a good GM for us. I want someone with an analytical approach to get us out of this mess. But honestly we might as well just sit back and wait for Blake's contract to be almost over. No positive development is going to happen with that yolk around our necks.


Please! Someone get me a rope if Pistons are going to do nothing but watch Blake's contact expire. I know Blake is virtually untradable but they've got to make the best of a bad situation. Get back to being competitive. If a buyer comes along for Blake take a serious look at the offer. On the other hand I think Blake would be better off if he cuts back on his 3-point attempts and quit trying to be a PG.
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#192 » by Snakebites » Mon Mar 5, 2018 2:43 am

captainrebel wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Yeah...

I see no reason to think Chauncey would be a good GM for us. I want someone with an analytical approach to get us out of this mess. But honestly we might as well just sit back and wait for Blake's contract to be almost over. No positive development is going to happen with that yolk around our necks.


Please! Someone get me a rope if Pistons are going to do nothing but watch Blake's contact expire. I know Blake is virtually untradable but they've got to make the best of a bad situation. Get back to being competitive. If a buyer comes along for Blake take a serious look at the offer. On the other hand I think Blake would be better off if he cuts back on his 3-point attempts and quit trying to be a PG.


Oh, don't get me wrong, they'll try.

But I think realistically we're not going to be competitive while that contract is on our books. I pray that I'm wrong.

Sadly I had a negative perspective on this trade and its actually looking like I was even more right than I feared. I'd say I told you (not you specifically, the collective board), but not even I thought it would be quite this bad so quickly.
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#193 » by DBC10 » Mon Mar 5, 2018 2:45 am

Yeah, we need an analytical mind at the top, running things. Hire someone from MIT for all I care.

Hire Hinkie, since we have no hope. And get all the 2nd round picks.
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#194 » by buzzkilloton » Mon Mar 5, 2018 4:33 am

I love how the clippers are 9-3 with T.Harris in the lineup. While we lose to scrubs like the magic and hawks. I guess when they said they werent making this move to tank they werent shooting out BS.

Harris line tonight 26 on 19 shots 8reb 2ast 2to 3blk 3steals

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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#195 » by captainrebel » Mon Mar 5, 2018 6:15 am

Snakebites wrote:
captainrebel wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Yeah...

I see no reason to think Chauncey would be a good GM for us. I want someone with an analytical approach to get us out of this mess. But honestly we might as well just sit back and wait for Blake's contract to be almost over. No positive development is going to happen with that yolk around our necks.


Please! Someone get me a rope if Pistons are going to do nothing but watch Blake's contact expire. I know Blake is virtually untradable but they've got to make the best of a bad situation. Get back to being competitive. If a buyer comes along for Blake take a serious look at the offer. On the other hand I think Blake would be better off if he cuts back on his 3-point attempts and quit trying to be a PG.


Oh, don't get me wrong, they'll try.

But I think realistically we're not going to be competitive while that contract is on our books. I pray that I'm wrong.

Sadly I had a negative perspective on this trade and its actually looking like I was even more right than I feared. I'd say I told you (not you specifically, the collective board), but not even I thought it would be quite this bad so quickly.


I never liked this trade. We could've gone into the off-season with what we traded for Blake and probably gotten better returns contractwise. If this trade does pay not off Pistons will be mired in mediocrity for probably another 5 years. I can't imagine being able to trade Blake until the final year of his contract. And to those who think Drummond could/should be traded instead of Blake, stop it.
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#196 » by ByeByeDre » Tue Mar 6, 2018 4:13 am

Canadafan wrote:
Everybody's a genius Monday morning quarterback.
Let's see some comments after we go on another win streak and make the playoffs


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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#197 » by Canadafan » Tue Mar 6, 2018 4:53 am

ByeByeDre wrote:
Canadafan wrote:
Everybody's a genius Monday morning quarterback.
Let's see some comments after we go on another win streak and make the playoffs


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Hahaha **** you! Lol. We still got time for a win streak :wink:

Trust me, I've come full circle with this deal. I'm amazed at how bad its turned out and how much its going to cripple us for years. We need a Xmas miracle to happen and get us in the top 3 somehow to save our damn pick
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We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#198 » by A_dub06 » Tue Mar 6, 2018 10:39 am

Canadafan wrote:
ByeByeDre wrote:
Canadafan wrote:
Everybody's a genius Monday morning quarterback.
Let's see some comments after we go on another win streak and make the playoffs


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Hahaha **** you! Lol. We still got time for a win streak :wink:

Trust me, I've come full circle with this deal. I'm amazed at how bad its turned out and how much its going to cripple us for years. We need a Xmas miracle to happen and get us in the top 3 somehow to save our damn pick


Do you mean half circle?

This appears to be like that Jason Kidd quote when he got drafted to the Mavs saying that he would turn the team around 360 degrees (no change in direction)


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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#199 » by ByeByeDre » Tue Mar 6, 2018 12:15 pm

Canadafan wrote:
ByeByeDre wrote:
Canadafan wrote:
Everybody's a genius Monday morning quarterback.
Let's see some comments after we go on another win streak and make the playoffs


:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


Hahaha **** you! Lol. We still got time for a win streak :wink:

Trust me, I've come full circle with this deal. I'm amazed at how bad its turned out and how much its going to cripple us for years. We need a Xmas miracle to happen and get us in the top 3 somehow to save our damn pick


All good - I like to go back - wait until I dig up some posts when the trade was first made!

This year they’re gonna stink. In the off-season they need to trade whatever they can for better shooters to help with spacing. Maybe a white kid or two from Duke would help.
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Re: We overpaid for Blake. 

Post#200 » by Bricks50 » Tue Mar 6, 2018 3:18 pm

Drummond don’t need any help in the paint. I thought VanGundy learned this his 1st year here.

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