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Game 65: Phoenix Suns (19-45 ) at Atlanta Hawks (19-44), Sunday, March 4, 1:30 PM MST

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Re: Game 65: Phoenix Suns (19-45 ) at Atlanta Hawks (19-44), Sunday, March 4, 1:30 PM MST 

Post#81 » by bwgood77 » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:38 pm

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hollywood6964 wrote:You've been high on him. From the start.

That's great that you're glad. If only for your enjoyment. Because I don't care.

Also when did I say I hope he fails? In fact I said I hope he looks good so we can trade him. He's just a player I don't like, nothing personal. Rather see him home if we can get something for him.

And I didn't say all season, only one half of one game that he's been decent. I'm talking in the now.


I just don't understand why any Suns fan wouldn't have an innate investment in all of our player's success, so a strange comment.

I suppose I may be a little bit higher on Chriss than most, but that's not hard around here. I'm certainly not higher on him than any of our other young lottery picks, so that's a strange statement, but I think many make final judgements on extremely young players early. I think he does potentially have quite a bit of upside if his focus is in the right place.

He's been disappointing this year, but I'm glad he is looking good today, other than the fact it might hurt our tank if we win.


There's others that have been high on him as well. Although most have been jumping on the bender bandwagon. For a top 5 pick, he's been underwhelming as well.

I try to look at it objectively, best I can. I'm high on Jackson, all star on the making. I've been high on Booker since day one as well, borderline superstar in the making.

I was one that thinks Payton trade was not optimal, he'll account for a couple wins or so, today being one of them if we pull this out, that will knock us out of the top pick positioning. Possible rental, etc, n it just looks like a "why did we do that" at the end of the season. And there's been an overwhelming majority that have been high on that trade as well. I'm just looking at the risk/reward potential, and I'm not liking it. Same as I look at picks like bender n especially Chriss, probabilities of proper return on such high picks just doesn't look to promising.


I won't disagree that Bender and Chriss have both been underwhelming, and the longer that continues, the chance for their success diminishes.

Yeah, I loved both the Booker and Jackson picks and they look great, despite Jackson's slow start to the season.

I somewhat agree with what you said about the Payton trade, though it didn't cost much to get him and will give us a look as to whether or not he's worth keeping around as a backup. Of course he may add wins, but hasn't really yet, considering the fact that we only beat Memphis since we got him, but yeah, he will be part of the reason if we win today.
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Re: Game 65: Phoenix Suns (19-45 ) at Atlanta Hawks (19-44), Sunday, March 4, 1:30 PM MST 

Post#82 » by alldayeveryday » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:39 pm

I don't mind JJ pushing him off after Prince got in his face. I love it.
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Re: Game 65: Phoenix Suns (19-45 ) at Atlanta Hawks (19-44), Sunday, March 4, 1:30 PM MST 

Post#83 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:40 pm

Taylor blew 2 layups is Schroder being sat?

Payton triple double is impressive he's making it more difficult to not like.
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Re: Game 65: Phoenix Suns (19-45 ) at Atlanta Hawks (19-44), Sunday, March 4, 1:30 PM MST 

Post#84 » by MathiasPW » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:41 pm

We lost a chance to have whole bench entering court and getting suspended for the super stealth tank move
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Re: Game 65: Phoenix Suns (19-45 ) at Atlanta Hawks (19-44), Sunday, March 4, 1:30 PM MST 

Post#85 » by darealjuice » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:42 pm

Hawks not even playing Schroder in the 4th quarter lol
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Post#86 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:43 pm

Refs should be judged on how long their replays take.
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Post#87 » by hollywood6964 » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:43 pm

Payton with the boot, that hurts. Not the tank though haha.
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Post#88 » by ATTL » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:44 pm

Payton ejected after his triple double
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Post#89 » by Revived » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:45 pm

When was the last time Bender scored double digit pts?
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Post#90 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:46 pm

Schroder and Bazemore being sat they will find a way to lose.
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Post#91 » by Dambo » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:47 pm

We really need this L.
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Re: Game 65: Phoenix Suns (19-45 ) at Atlanta Hawks (19-44), Sunday, March 4, 1:30 PM MST 

Post#92 » by bwgood77 » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:48 pm

darealjuice wrote:Hawks not even playing Schroder in the 4th quarter lol


They definitely deserve to win.
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Post#93 » by hollywood6964 » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:48 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
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I just don't understand why any Suns fan wouldn't have an innate investment in all of our player's success, so a strange comment.

I suppose I may be a little bit higher on Chriss than most, but that's not hard around here. I'm certainly not higher on him than any of our other young lottery picks, so that's a strange statement, but I think many make final judgements on extremely young players early. I think he does potentially have quite a bit of upside if his focus is in the right place.

He's been disappointing this year, but I'm glad he is looking good today, other than the fact it might hurt our tank if we win.


There's others that have been high on him as well. Although most have been jumping on the bender bandwagon. For a top 5 pick, he's been underwhelming as well.

I try to look at it objectively, best I can. I'm high on Jackson, all star on the making. I've been high on Booker since day one as well, borderline superstar in the making.

I was one that thinks Payton trade was not optimal, he'll account for a couple wins or so, today being one of them if we pull this out, that will knock us out of the top pick positioning. Possible rental, etc, n it just looks like a "why did we do that" at the end of the season. And there's been an overwhelming majority that have been high on that trade as well. I'm just looking at the risk/reward potential, and I'm not liking it. Same as I look at picks like bender n especially Chriss, probabilities of proper return on such high picks just doesn't look to promising.


I won't disagree that Bender and Chriss have both been underwhelming, and the longer that continues, the chance for their success diminishes.

Yeah, I loved both the Booker and Jackson picks and they look great, despite Jackson's slow start to the season.

I somewhat agree with what you said about the Payton trade, though it didn't cost much to get him and will give us a look as to whether or not he's worth keeping around as a backup. Of course he may add wins, but hasn't really yet, considering the fact that we only beat Memphis since we got him, but yeah, he will be part of the reason if we win today.

I don't think we beat Memphis without him. It's the bad teams that we'll beat because of him. Maybe on a lark we squeek one out against a good team or something. But this precisely the reason I'm wary of it. Right now.
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Re: Game 65: Phoenix Suns (19-45 ) at Atlanta Hawks (19-44), Sunday, March 4, 1:30 PM MST 

Post#94 » by Slo » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:49 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Schroder and Bazemore being sat they will find a way to lose.


I hope the Hawks scrubs pull out a win
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Post#95 » by hollywood6964 » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:49 pm

Harrison is a defender extraordinnaire.
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Post#96 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:49 pm

There's no glory in a close win against the worst team deliberating losing.
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Post#97 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:50 pm

Jackson with the tank jumper.
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Post#98 » by hollywood6964 » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:51 pm

Oh my God.

Prince with the 3.
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Post#99 » by Slo » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:52 pm

Watch Atlanta indentionaly foul now :lol:
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Post#100 » by Dambo » Sun Mar 4, 2018 10:52 pm

Thank god we have the main scrub Prince.

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