GT #64: Pacers @ Wizards 6 PM 3/4/18

[I_Like_Dirt]

Beal certainly wasn't at his best, to put it nicely, but I don't think he was the biggest problem last night. Kieff was dreadful. On the surface, he looks efficient on 5/7 shooting including 2/3 from 3, and he only added one foul and one TO, but the stats are far too kind to him. He was absolutely awful and basically just checked out overall unless he had a relatively easy play he could make. In a 3-point loss, Morris somehow managed to be -21 in 27 minutes. By contrast, Beal wound up -10 in 42 minutes, despite playing most of his minutes with Morris out there with him. And while I didn't watch the whole game, what I did see confirmed, at least to me, that he was looking out for himself and only himself. I don't love putting stock in single game +/- alone, but the eye test supports it and the numbers were ridiculously dramatic; he was really bad.

[80sballboy]

Sato and Frazier didn't play well, especially on the defensive end and I was okay with who he chose to close the game.

Sato has sucked the last two games.

I mean, he almost had a triple double last game and shot above 50% in both games, but narratives and stuff

You clearly didn't watch either game but hey, keeping reading the box scores. Triple-double? Including his six turnovers?

[DANNYLANDOVER]

A team led by Beal in his current form is a lotto team. This I know for sure. He's pretty much taking over all the things that we complained about John, and Brooks the enabler hasn't done a thing about it.
Complain all you want about Otto not demanding the ball more, but I don't see any players on great teams having to demand the ball during games. It is the responsibility of the coach to design plays and implement a game plan, where every player knows when their shot is called. Asking Otto to demand the ball from the ball handler simply means that there is no structure/game plan. This seems to validate what I've been seeing with Brooks' rotations/end of game play calls.

I never see anyone on the GSW or SAS demand/dominate the ball. Exploiting matchups, ball movement, player movement, etc. are how you run an efficient NBA offense. The fact that we don't see Otto get many touches in games simply means that Brooks does not have have many plays designed for him.

[Shanghai Kid]

It seems Beal just doesnt have his legs when he gets to closing minutes of a game. Its a stamina issue. And that is magnified with Wall out. The problem is his mindset is that he needs to carry the team in the clutch and it ends up being a trainwreck.

The issue I forsee is Beal going hero ball in the playoffs and us losing in the first round. He's just not that caliber of a first option. There is a difference between Beal and guys like Irving/Lillard and it tends to show in the clutch.

[Kanyewest]

It seems Beal just doesnt have his legs when he gets to closing minutes of a game. Its a stamina issue. And that is magnified with Wall out. The problem is his mindset is that he needs to carry the team in the clutch and it ends up being a trainwreck.

The issue I forsee is Beal going hero ball in the playoffs and us losing in the first round. He's just not that caliber of a first option. There is a difference between Beal and guys like Irving/Lillard and it tends to show in the clutch.

Only caught the 4th quarter but it looked like Beal was playing the entire second half; I would say the probability is that players are more likely to come up short when that is the case. Brooks did the same thing to Wall in game 7 against the Celtics. And the weird thing was that Brooks played Meeks for the entire quarter, so he could have chose to played Sato a few minutes to give Beal a breather.

[80sballboy]

It seems Beal just doesnt have his legs when he gets to closing minutes of a game. Its a stamina issue. And that is magnified with Wall out. The problem is his mindset is that he needs to carry the team in the clutch and it ends up being a trainwreck.

The issue I forsee is Beal going hero ball in the playoffs and us losing in the first round. He's just not that caliber of a first option. There is a difference between Beal and guys like Irving/Lillard and it tends to show in the clutch.

Only caught the 4th quarter but it looked like Beal was playing the entire second half; I would say the probability is that players are more likely to come up short when that is the case. Brooks did the same thing to Wall in game 7 against the Celtics. And the weird thing was that Brooks played Meeks for the entire quarter, so he could have chose to played Sato a few minutes to give Beal a breather.

Beal played 43 minutes, the entire half and was defending Dipo most of the time and playing point guard about half of his minutes. That will get you tired. When you look at his clutch shooting percentage, it's pretty bad all year. Some of it is mental but a lot of it is due to fatigue. Sato, despite playing poorly, should have been there over Meeks. I think Brooks had zero faith in everybody and without Oubre, he just stuck with Meeks and Beal at PG because the team was hanging in the game. He never knew when to cut the cord.

[DCZards]

Beal played 43 minutes, the entire half and was defending Dipo most of the time and playing point guard about half of his minutes. That will get you tired. When you look at his clutch shooting percentage, it's pretty bad all year. Some of it is mental but a lot of it is due to fatigue. Sato, despite playing poorly, should have been there over Meeks. I think Brooks had zero faith in everybody and without Oubre, he just stuck with Meeks and Beal at PG because the team was hanging in the game. He never knew when to cut the cord.

Yes, Beal played the entire second half and was dog tired, which is why I would have called those plays for Porter in the closing minutes because he was fresher and had only played around 35 minutes. I hate this mindset that you only go to one guy when the game is on the line--before it was Wall, now it's Beal.

I too expected to see Sato and Keef return to the game in the last few minutes, in place of Meeks and Scott. But Brooks did what coaches typically do, which is to ride the guys who had gotten you back in the game and seemed to have some momentum.

[80sballboy]

Beal played 43 minutes, the entire half and was defending Dipo most of the time and playing point guard about half of his minutes. That will get you tired. When you look at his clutch shooting percentage, it's pretty bad all year. Some of it is mental but a lot of it is due to fatigue. Sato, despite playing poorly, should have been there over Meeks. I think Brooks had zero faith in everybody and without Oubre, he just stuck with Meeks and Beal at PG because the team was hanging in the game. He never knew when to cut the cord.

Yes, Beal played the entire second half and was dog tired, which is why I would have called those plays for Porter in the closing minutes because he was fresher and had only played around 35 minutes. I hate this mindset that you only go to one guy when the game is on the line--before it was Wall, now it's Beal.

I too expected to see Sato and Keef return to the game in the last few minutes, in place of Meeks and Scott. But Brooks did what coaches typically do, which is to ride the guys who had gotten you back in the game and seemed to have some momentum.

Sure, Brooks rode those guys but at some point, it's over. You have to make the change. Kieff had a weird game because he wasn't bad on offense but he was a -21. His motor wasn't really running. He had him in there in that small lineup and he got abused by Turner. And that was end of him the death lineup.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Beal getting credit for his playmaking because of the 11 assists. But team had 21 total assists instead of the 30 we've been getting. Beal dominating the ball is definitely not a positive regardless of his assist stats.

And why doesn't Brooks look at clutch time stats? Of the 20 players with the most clutch time points, Beal has the lowest FG% by a significant amount at 32.2% Kemba Walker is 19th with 35.6%.

A team led by Beal in his current form is a lotto team. This I know for sure. He's pretty much taking over all the things that we complained about John, and Brooks the enabler hasn't done a thing about it.
Complain all you want about Otto not demanding the ball more, but I don't see any players on great teams having to demand the ball during games. It is the responsibility of the coach to design plays and implement a game plan, where every player knows when their shot is called. Asking Otto to demand the ball from the ball handler simply means that there is no structure/game plan. This seems to validate what I've been seeing with Brooks' rotations/end of game play calls.

I never see anyone on the GSW or SAS demand/dominate the ball. Exploiting matchups, ball movement, player movement, etc. are how you run an efficient NBA offense. The fact that we don't see Otto get many touches in games simply means that Brooks does not have have many plays designed for him.

The last three games seem like regression on Brooks' part.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Nate is going to say that it's too late in the season to try this.

If I were coaching I would put Otto Porter at shooting guard because that's something Randy Wittman tried years ago.

I'll put Kelly Oubre in it small forward.

I would put Chris McCullough in in place of Markieff Morris.

I would put Ian Mahinmi and it Center.

Guess which three players would not play? Beal, Morris, and perhaps Gortat.

I would rest players like Gregg Popovich does. A game or two whenever I felt like it. I would make sure every player on my roster has some nights where he went 20 minutes.

Jason Smith and Chris McCullough would play regularly.

Scott Brooks is going to fool around and keep playing Bradley Beal 40 minutes until he gets injured. Because Scott Brooks don't know no better.

Bradley Beal is going to launch up 45 shots one game. Even if he only make 10 of them....

It is really hard being a fan of this team at times

Sorry for the typos I'm really tired right now and I'm talking into this phone. It is translating it the way it usually does which is not right most of the time

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

It seems Beal just doesnt have his legs when he gets to closing minutes of a game. Its a stamina issue. And that is magnified with Wall out. The problem is his mindset is that he needs to carry the team in the clutch and it ends up being a trainwreck.

The issue I forsee is Beal going hero ball in the playoffs and us losing in the first round. He's just not that caliber of a first option. There is a difference between Beal and guys like Irving/Lillard and it tends to show in the clutch.

Only caught the 4th quarter but it looked like Beal was playing the entire second half; I would say the probability is that players are more likely to come up short when that is the case. Brooks did the same thing to Wall in game 7 against the Celtics. And the weird thing was that Brooks played Meeks for the entire quarter, so he could have chose to played Sato a few minutes to give Beal a breather.

Beal played 43 minutes, the entire half and was defending Dipo most of the time and playing point guard about half of his minutes. That will get you tired. When you look at his clutch shooting percentage, it's pretty bad all year. Some of it is mental but a lot of it is due to fatigue. Sato, despite playing poorly, should have been there over Meeks. I think Brooks had zero faith in everybody and without Oubre, he just stuck with Meeks and Beal at PG because the team was hanging in the game. He never knew when to cut the cord.

If you can see this Beal is tired and so can I; then why the Wizards continue to do what they do?

It is beyond stupid to see that one guy taking all the last damn shots like he's Kobe f****** Bryant.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Beal played 43 minutes, the entire half and was defending Dipo most of the time and playing point guard about half of his minutes. That will get you tired. When you look at his clutch shooting percentage, it's pretty bad all year. Some of it is mental but a lot of it is due to fatigue. Sato, despite playing poorly, should have been there over Meeks. I think Brooks had zero faith in everybody and without Oubre, he just stuck with Meeks and Beal at PG because the team was hanging in the game. He never knew when to cut the cord.

Yes, Beal played the entire second half and was dog tired, which is why I would have called those plays for Porter in the closing minutes because he was fresher and had only played around 35 minutes. I hate this mindset that you only go to one guy when the game is on the line--before it was Wall, now it's Beal.

I too expected to see Sato and Keef return to the game in the last few minutes, in place of Meeks and Scott. But Brooks did what coaches typically do, which is to ride the guys who had gotten you back in the game and seemed to have some momentum.

You and I see this exactly the same way.

I agree with every word.




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[WallToWall]

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For the record, Beal had the designed play to shoot that 3 ptr, which he missed. The last shot of the game actually went to Scott, who got a 3ptr off with 0.1 seconds on the clock. He missed. But, we arent talking about that.

[NatP4]

Sato has sucked the last two games.

I mean, he almost had a triple double last game and shot above 50% in both games, but narratives and stuff

You clearly didn't watch either game but hey, keeping reading the box scores. Triple-double? Including his six turnovers?

no, a triple double does not include turnovers. You should know this, your first born son Tim Frazier had one last year for the pelicans!!!!!!!!!!!!