The Legend of Joel Embiid
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When people say Embiid is playing terrible, aparently they forgot basketball is played on two sides of the court, the thing with Embiid is no matter how much he is struggling on offense, he is always a factor on D.
            
                                    
                                    
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Just in case there's any spanish speaking user, here's an interesting podcast from one of the best basketball journalists here in Spain.
https://www.m21radio.es/podcast/el-reverso/el-reverso-05032018
A good synthesis about Joel's journey to where he is today.
            
                                    
                                    
                        https://www.m21radio.es/podcast/el-reverso/el-reverso-05032018
A good synthesis about Joel's journey to where he is today.
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My Joel Embiid diary today:
I feel like Biid is a basketball savant. He learns things ridiculously quick. He plays and thinks like a vet.
Most impressive so far is how he adjusted his game into more of a below the rim/skill heavy player. He even plays high impact D without blocking that many shots. How? Being a great quarterback on D and positioning, that and just by being freakishly long.
Here’s my gut feel. He’s either been intructed or is deliberately taking care of his body. It’s the late stretch of regular season. Better to be 100+% by play-offs. I also find the same case with ben, recently they’d play 50-70% in first half then go 100% in second half. If you notice, Biid also jacks up a lot of jumpers in first half. Then tries to 50% his FG% by the 2nd.
Wanna know why these stars like to play with one another? To win the championship? Yes, partly. Because of financial gain like bonuses and branding. But I think its mostly so that they can prolong their career by limiting their usage and exposure to wear and tear.
Jojo is not struggling. He’s not tired. He’s being smart. And when the switch needs to be turned up, he will deliver.
            
                                    
                                    I feel like Biid is a basketball savant. He learns things ridiculously quick. He plays and thinks like a vet.
Most impressive so far is how he adjusted his game into more of a below the rim/skill heavy player. He even plays high impact D without blocking that many shots. How? Being a great quarterback on D and positioning, that and just by being freakishly long.
Here’s my gut feel. He’s either been intructed or is deliberately taking care of his body. It’s the late stretch of regular season. Better to be 100+% by play-offs. I also find the same case with ben, recently they’d play 50-70% in first half then go 100% in second half. If you notice, Biid also jacks up a lot of jumpers in first half. Then tries to 50% his FG% by the 2nd.
Wanna know why these stars like to play with one another? To win the championship? Yes, partly. Because of financial gain like bonuses and branding. But I think its mostly so that they can prolong their career by limiting their usage and exposure to wear and tear.
Jojo is not struggling. He’s not tired. He’s being smart. And when the switch needs to be turned up, he will deliver.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
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Well he is struggling, he's a walking turnover at the moment. Whether it is fatigue or not, I'm not sure.
            
                                    
                                    
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He has played his 82nd game now in his career... so he is just hitting the rookie wall they all hit.
            
                                    
                                    
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LeBron is one of the largest human beings on the planet, and one of the most polarizing figures in the world. And he looks like a little kid meeting his idol in this picture with Embiid and Simmons absolutely dwarfing him.76ciology wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:LongLiveHinkie wrote:
Look at the look Lue gives him in the background.
Lue looks suicidal
Screw offense. LeBron on the Sixers would be absolutely must see for strictly the terror they would be defensively. It wouldn't happen often because of offensive spacing problems, but man watching a Simmons, LeBron, Covington, Saric, Embiid lineup of switch everything defense would be an absolute sight to behold. LeBron would be the shortest player! Make it happen LeBron. #completetheprocess
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KKell2507 wrote:LeBron is one of the largest human beings on the planet, and one of the most polarizing figures in the world. And he looks like a little kid meeting his idol in this picture with Embiid and Simmons absolutely dwarfing him.76ciology wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:Look at the look Lue gives him in the background.
Lue looks suicidal
Screw offense. LeBron on the Sixers would be absolutely must see for strictly the terror they would be defensively. It wouldn't happen often because of offensive spacing problems, but man watching a Simmons, LeBron, Covington, Saric, Embiid lineup of switch everything defense would be an absolute sight to behold. LeBron would be the shortest player! Make it happen LeBron. #completetheprocess
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Those brilliant passing, watching three freaks play and a high volume of 3pt euphoria. That’s must watch TV!
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Is AD regarded as a C? Maybe he gets all NBA 1st team at C. Then KAT or Biid battles for 2nd team.
KAT averages 50/40/90 with 20ppg, 12rpg and 1.5bpg so no slouch either.
            
                                    
                                    KAT averages 50/40/90 with 20ppg, 12rpg and 1.5bpg so no slouch either.
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76ciology wrote:Is AD regarded as a C? Maybe he gets all NBA 1st team at C. Then KAT or Biid battles for 2nd team.
KAT averages 50/40/90 with 20ppg, 12rpg and 1.5bpg so no slouch either.
I don't want Embiid to get anything that means less cap space.
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LordCovington33 wrote:76ciology wrote:Is AD regarded as a C? Maybe he gets all NBA 1st team at C. Then KAT or Biid battles for 2nd team.
KAT averages 50/40/90 with 20ppg, 12rpg and 1.5bpg so no slouch either.
I don't want Embiid to get anything that means less cap space.
Ah! U see my agenda
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76ciology wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:76ciology wrote:Is AD regarded as a C? Maybe he gets all NBA 1st team at C. Then KAT or Biid battles for 2nd team.
KAT averages 50/40/90 with 20ppg, 12rpg and 1.5bpg so no slouch either.
I don't want Embiid to get anything that means less cap space.
Ah! U see my agenda
Are you guys sure there's a C-spot on the All-NBA roster, or is it 3 forwards?
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Wilfried wrote:76ciology wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:I don't want Embiid to get anything that means less cap space.
Ah! U see my agenda
Are you guys sure there's a C-spot on the All-NBA roster, or is it 3 forwards?
The 3 forwards spots are for allstar game. All-NBA is 1-C, 2-F, 2-G. Anyway, AD was voted as a 1st All-NBA Center last year even though he always played with a center in Ajinca and Cousins. So I guess it depends on the voters if they will consider AD again as a center this season even though the pelicans are playing Okafor as a center.
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mithrandir17 wrote:Wilfried wrote:76ciology wrote:Ah! U see my agenda
Are you guys sure there's a C-spot on the All-NBA roster, or is it 3 forwards?
The 3 forwards spots are for allstar game. All-NBA is 1-C, 2-F, 2-G. Anyway, AD was voted as a 1st All-NBA Center last year even though he always played with a center in Ajinca and Cousins. So I guess it depends on the voters if they will consider AD again as a center this season even though the pelicans are playing Okafor as a center.
I guess they’ll consider AD as C so they can put as many non-C players at 1st team.
We save money if Biid doesnt make 1st team right?
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76ciology wrote:mithrandir17 wrote:Wilfried wrote:Are you guys sure there's a C-spot on the All-NBA roster, or is it 3 forwards?
The 3 forwards spots are for allstar game. All-NBA is 1-C, 2-F, 2-G. Anyway, AD was voted as a 1st All-NBA Center last year even though he always played with a center in Ajinca and Cousins. So I guess it depends on the voters if they will consider AD again as a center this season even though the pelicans are playing Okafor as a center.
I guess they’ll consider AD as C so they can put as many non-C players at 1st team.
We save money if Biid doesnt make 1st team right?
It doesn't matter imho: Giannis, Davis and LBJ are going to be on All-NBA first team...."no matter What".
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76ciology wrote:mithrandir17 wrote:Wilfried wrote:Are you guys sure there's a C-spot on the All-NBA roster, or is it 3 forwards?
The 3 forwards spots are for allstar game. All-NBA is 1-C, 2-F, 2-G. Anyway, AD was voted as a 1st All-NBA Center last year even though he always played with a center in Ajinca and Cousins. So I guess it depends on the voters if they will consider AD again as a center this season even though the pelicans are playing Okafor as a center.
I guess they’ll consider AD as C so they can put as many non-C players at 1st team.
We save money if Biid doesnt make 1st team right?
Based from the article from ESPN, Embiid can earn the supermax if he is part of any of the first, second or third all-nba team.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20971278/joel-embiid-philadelphia-76ers-accepts-max-rookie-scale-contract-extension
Embiid, one of the NBA's most talented and popular young players, has the ability to earn an additional $30 million -- bringing the value of the contract to as much as $178 million -- if he earns an All-NBA first-, second- or third-team selection, or is named MVP this season, league sources said. The designated rookie scale extension -- termed "the super-max" -- reflects 30 percent of the 2018-19 salary cap if Embiid reaches the performance-based criteria.
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kriss73 wrote:76ciology wrote:mithrandir17 wrote:The 3 forwards spots are for allstar game. All-NBA is 1-C, 2-F, 2-G. Anyway, AD was voted as a 1st All-NBA Center last year even though he always played with a center in Ajinca and Cousins. So I guess it depends on the voters if they will consider AD again as a center this season even though the pelicans are playing Okafor as a center.
I guess they’ll consider AD as C so they can put as many non-C players at 1st team.
We save money if Biid doesnt make 1st team right?
It doesn't matter imho: Giannis, Davis and LBJ are going to be on All-NBA first team...."no matter What".
Well we do save money if Jojo doesn't get 1st team all nba, but with the play of AD lately I don't see how Jojo could beat him either way. Only way would be both Jojo and AD making the team but I don't see that happening with Durant and Giannis right there along with Bron. Giannis might get the nod but I don't think most would pick him over Durant in real life, thats just stupid.
Either way, I see Jojo being second team, and probably where he belongs for this season.
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mithrandir17 wrote:76ciology wrote:mithrandir17 wrote:The 3 forwards spots are for allstar game. All-NBA is 1-C, 2-F, 2-G. Anyway, AD was voted as a 1st All-NBA Center last year even though he always played with a center in Ajinca and Cousins. So I guess it depends on the voters if they will consider AD again as a center this season even though the pelicans are playing Okafor as a center.
I guess they’ll consider AD as C so they can put as many non-C players at 1st team.
We save money if Biid doesnt make 1st team right?
Based from the article from ESPN, Embiid can earn the supermax if he is part of any of the first, second or third all-nba team.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20971278/joel-embiid-philadelphia-76ers-accepts-max-rookie-scale-contract-extensionEmbiid, one of the NBA's most talented and popular young players, has the ability to earn an additional $30 million -- bringing the value of the contract to as much as $178 million -- if he earns an All-NBA first-, second- or third-team selection, or is named MVP this season, league sources said. The designated rookie scale extension -- termed "the super-max" -- reflects 30 percent of the 2018-19 salary cap if Embiid reaches the performance-based criteria.
Only first according to yahoo
the note that Embiid can only trigger the “super-max” extension that would pay him 30 percent of the salary cap by being named to the All-NBA First Team or winning Most Valuable Player honors this year, in 2017-18, also makes it much more likely that the full freight is $146.5 million over five years, rather than the “super-max” $176 million.
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-joel-embiids-max-contract-extension-contains-numerous-escape-hatches-154239355.html
So I'm not sure
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kriss73 wrote:mithrandir17 wrote:76ciology wrote:
I guess they’ll consider AD as C so they can put as many non-C players at 1st team.
We save money if Biid doesnt make 1st team right?
Based from the article from ESPN, Embiid can earn the supermax if he is part of any of the first, second or third all-nba team.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20971278/joel-embiid-philadelphia-76ers-accepts-max-rookie-scale-contract-extensionEmbiid, one of the NBA's most talented and popular young players, has the ability to earn an additional $30 million -- bringing the value of the contract to as much as $178 million -- if he earns an All-NBA first-, second- or third-team selection, or is named MVP this season, league sources said. The designated rookie scale extension -- termed "the super-max" -- reflects 30 percent of the 2018-19 salary cap if Embiid reaches the performance-based criteria.
Only first according to yahoothe note that Embiid can only trigger the “super-max” extension that would pay him 30 percent of the salary cap by being named to the All-NBA First Team or winning Most Valuable Player honors this year, in 2017-18, also makes it much more likely that the full freight is $146.5 million over five years, rather than the “super-max” $176 million.
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-joel-embiids-max-contract-extension-contains-numerous-escape-hatches-154239355.html
So I'm not sure
That ESPN article is wrong/came out before all the details were revealed. It's just first team or MVP.
Here's a Woj article from the following day: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20985023/joel-embiid-extension-protects-philadelphia-76ers-case-contractually-specific-catastrophic-injury
For Embiid to reach the threshold of the super maximum contract criteria -- which would pay him 30 percent of the salary cap and ultimately as much as $176 million -- Embiid must earn first-team All-NBA honors or be voted the NBA's Most Valuable Player in the 2017-18 season.
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mithrandir17 wrote:Wilfried wrote:76ciology wrote:Ah! U see my agenda
Are you guys sure there's a C-spot on the All-NBA roster, or is it 3 forwards?
The 3 forwards spots are for allstar game. All-NBA is 1-C, 2-F, 2-G. Anyway, AD was voted as a 1st All-NBA Center last year even though he always played with a center in Ajinca and Cousins. So I guess it depends on the voters if they will consider AD again as a center this season even though the pelicans are playing Okafor as a center.
Davis played 2/3 of his minutes last year without a center next to him.







