Game 63: Clippers (34-28) host Pelicans (36-26) on 03/06 @ 10:30 PM

[og15]

It sucks that Ty isn't signed, he will be back for the last 10 games, but we can also see the teams plan with him being a Clippers restricted free agent, so I get it, but it still sucks.

[kane0801]

please play more harrell,his energy and effort just boost the team

[JGOJustin]

It sucks that Ty isn't signed, he will be back for the last 10 games, but we can also see the teams plan with him being a Clippera restricted free agent, so I get it, but it still sucks.

But the thing is, he's going to be a restricted Free Agent regardless. You don't have to cost yourself games for that to happen.

[og15]

It sucks that Ty isn't signed, he will be back for the last 10 games, but we can also see the teams plan with him being a Clippera restricted free agent, so I get it, but it still sucks.

But the thing is, he's going to be a restricted Free Agent regardless. You don't have to cost yourself games for that to happen.

Certainly, but if they sign him this season, his contract factors into the cap and also the luxury tax this year, even at the prorated amount, if he gets a decent contract it makes the Clippers repeaters this year and possibly also repeaters next season if they decide to go into tax. If he's signed in the off-season, then the Clippers restart their luxury tax situation and don't have to be repeater tax payers as his contract will just be starting next season.

I haven't looked into the exact numbers through, so I might be wrong about this, but $7 million per year for example, prorated for 20 games would be $1.7M. I'm assuming that's how his contract would work, it would be for the remaining games. Another $1.7M puts the Clippers into luxury, right?

[JGOJustin]

It sucks that Ty isn't signed, he will be back for the last 10 games, but we can also see the teams plan with him being a Clippera restricted free agent, so I get it, but it still sucks.

But the thing is, he's going to be a restricted Free Agent regardless. You don't have to cost yourself games for that to happen.

Certainly, but if they sign him this season, his contract factors into the cap and also the luxury tax this year, even at the prorated amount, if he gets a decent contract it makes the Clippers repeaters this year and possibly also repeaters next season if they decide to go into tax. If he's signed in the off-season, then the Clippers restart their luxury tax situation and don't have to be repeater tax payers as his contract will just be starting next season.

I haven't looked into the exact numbers through, so I might be wrong about this, but $7 million per year for example, prorated for 20 games would be $1.7M. I'm assuming that's how his contract would work, it would be for the remaining games. Another $1.7M puts the Clippers into luxury, right?

If I'm not mistaken (And I very well could be) a rest of the season minimum deal for Ty is only about 150-500K or something like that, and it wouldn't trigger a repeaters tax or in general take them into the cap. And it's not like he could say no, the Clippers have total control over this.

[esqtvd]

But the thing is, he's going to be a restricted Free Agent regardless. You don't have to cost yourself games for that to happen.

Certainly, but if they sign him this season, his contract factors into the cap and also the luxury tax this year, even at the prorated amount, if he gets a decent contract it makes the Clippers repeaters this year and possibly also repeaters next season if they decide to go into tax. If he's signed in the off-season, then the Clippers restart their luxury tax situation and don't have to be repeater tax payers as his contract will just be starting next season.

I haven't looked into the exact numbers through, so I might be wrong about this, but $7 million per year for example, prorated for 20 games would be $1.7M. I'm assuming that's how his contract would work, it would be for the remaining games. Another $1.7M puts the Clippers into luxury, right?

If I'm not mistaken (And I very well could be) a rest of the season minimum deal for Ty is only about 150-500K or something like that, and it wouldn't trigger a repeaters tax or in general take them into the cap. And it's not like he could say no, the Clippers have total control over this.

That's my take also. Dunno what the Clippers are up to except to put the squeeze on Ty, hoping he'll agree to a non- or semi-guaranteed long-term deal where all the options are on the team's side. We'll see if they give in and just convert him before March 24 although the new FO might not want to set a precedent of caving.

Head-scratcher. Better that Doc the coach is not involved or at least has plausible deniability.

[og15]

But the thing is, he's going to be a restricted Free Agent regardless. You don't have to cost yourself games for that to happen.

Certainly, but if they sign him this season, his contract factors into the cap and also the luxury tax this year, even at the prorated amount, if he gets a decent contract it makes the Clippers repeaters this year and possibly also repeaters next season if they decide to go into tax. If he's signed in the off-season, then the Clippers restart their luxury tax situation and don't have to be repeater tax payers as his contract will just be starting next season.

I haven't looked into the exact numbers through, so I might be wrong about this, but $7 million per year for example, prorated for 20 games would be $1.7M. I'm assuming that's how his contract would work, it would be for the remaining games. Another $1.7M puts the Clippers into luxury, right?

If I'm not mistaken (And I very well could be) a rest of the season minimum deal for Ty is only about 150-500K or something like that, and it wouldn't trigger a repeaters tax or in general take them into the cap. And it's not like he could say no, the Clippers have total control over this.

I thought the whole issue was that Wallace did not want the minimum?

[JGOJustin]

Certainly, but if they sign him this season, his contract factors into the cap and also the luxury tax this year, even at the prorated amount, if he gets a decent contract it makes the Clippers repeaters this year and possibly also repeaters next season if they decide to go into tax. If he's signed in the off-season, then the Clippers restart their luxury tax situation and don't have to be repeater tax payers as his contract will just be starting next season.

I haven't looked into the exact numbers through, so I might be wrong about this, but $7 million per year for example, prorated for 20 games would be $1.7M. I'm assuming that's how his contract would work, it would be for the remaining games. Another $1.7M puts the Clippers into luxury, right?

If I'm not mistaken (And I very well could be) a rest of the season minimum deal for Ty is only about 150-500K or something like that, and it wouldn't trigger a repeaters tax or in general take them into the cap. And it's not like he could say no, the Clippers have total control over this.

I thought the whole issue was that Wallace did not want the minimum?

Wallace not wanting the minimum doesn't matter. Per Two way contracts, if the team wants to convert you, well then you're converted. The player has no choice in that.

The issue, is that The Clippers want to sign Ty to a team friendly deal now because if they were to simply convert him, he'd play himself out of the Clippers desired price range. That IMO is the hold up w/Ty.

[nickhx2]

yeah i imagined him not being on the team is more about price control than anything else.

[og15]

If I'm not mistaken (And I very well could be) a rest of the season minimum deal for Ty is only about 150-500K or something like that, and it wouldn't trigger a repeaters tax or in general take them into the cap. And it's not like he could say no, the Clippers have total control over this.

I thought the whole issue was that Wallace did not want the minimum?

Wallace not wanting the minimum doesn't matter. Per Two way contracts, if the team wants to convert you, well then you're converted. The player has no choice in that.

The issue, is that The Clippers want to sign Ty to a team friendly deal now because if they were to simply convert him, he'd play himself out of the Clippers desired price range. That IMO is the hold up w/Ty.

I see, I see. I didn't remember that it was not optional for the player to sign.