Trae Young

[Duke4life831]

First 15 games: 29.2pts 10.2asts 3.8rebs 2stls 4.5tos on 44.9/38.9/85.1
Last 15 games: 25.9pts 7.5asts 4.0rebs 1.4stls 6.0tos on 40/33.3/87

His assists:TO have worsen by a lot. He's turning the ball over a lot more now. He's also shooting a lot worse at only 40% in the last 15 games.

Most of my concerns I had from his first 5 games are still unanswered now.

It's actually less of an equal split than that

First 11 games:
28/3/10 and 3.5 TOs on 48/41/86

Last 19 games:
27/4/8 and 6 TOs on 39/33/86

This is why I try and hold off on buying into hype that is based off of preconference games. So much of his hype was based off of just 1/3 of his season where he faced on average low quality opponents and where there isn't much tape on him and teams don't scout all that hard. The final 2/3s of the season he really struggled as opponents got better and teams started to scout him.

[nolang1]

I was never thinking of him as Steph Curry 2.0 so the negative splits don't concern me a whole lot; it's pretty excusable for a player his age with that level of usage to wear down over the course of the season. I mean, that's what I think happened to Harden in the playoffs last year and he seems to be no worse the wear for it.

My main thing with him is that the difference between Curry and Lillard is just a couple percentage points of accuracy shooting off the dribble, and someone with Young's physical attributes shooting any worse than Lillard (which is obviously a high standard in itself) is going to have an extremely hard time making an All-Star type of impact. I'm not even worried about the shot selection as much as the fact that a lot of his misses are just horrendously off the mark.

Trey Burke is often a comparison brought up in a derogatory way, but given that Burke would be starting for the Knicks if they weren't trying to tank right now and by his own account his early struggles were linked to getting too caught up in the NBA lifestyle, that doesn't seem like an enormous downside to me.

[No-Man]

I can understand the qualms in the top5 if you are a risk-avoider (I am not) but like after that, and in the range that he is probably gonna get drafted (I think he goes from 6 to 11 most likely) it's really hard to justify to me that he is a bad pick at that range

[eminence]

Yeah, I don't really get the worry. No prospect is perfect and he could bust (they all could), but he's clearly the best offensive prospect in the NCAA by a large margin.

[Justwar]

He's just either a starter all star or a situational backup, boom or bust. Wingspan and height are just my hiccup. Not many succeed with his measurables

[No-Man]

I mean he is 6'2, his height is fine, he has a 6'4 wingspan which isn't excellent but it's okay, he is underdeveloped physically but I do like his frame if he actually works out and puts the time

[Cammo101]

I can understand the qualms in the top5 if you are a risk-avoider (I am not) but like after that, and in the range that he is probably gonna get drafted (I think he goes from 6 to 11 most likely) it's really hard to justify to me that he is a bad pick at that range

100% agree.

[doordoor123]

I mean he is 6'2, his height is fine, he has a 6'4 wingspan which isn't excellent but it's okay, he is underdeveloped physically but I do like his frame if he actually works out and puts the time

Not so sure he’s 6’2 because he looks like he’s 6’0, but it doesn’t make a difference for me. I’m a fan of the way he plays and I know he’s going to have success at the next level. I just know exactly what he is after seeing almost all of his games. I see him having success, but I don’t think any team will trust him to do what he’s doing in college. In this new era it’s impossible to have a guard that isn’t consistent defensively be a starter unless they produce like Isaiah Thomas, James Harden or Damian Lillard. He has to be a 20-30 point threat every night in addition to getting his passes. Even if he has quick hands, he lets guys get by him a lot and he’s going to be a negative in terms of sliding with guys in the NBA. Recap: Not a fan of his defense and I don’t think NBA teams will let him do what he’s doing. Malik Monk is a good example of what might happen.

[azcatz11]

I'm going to keep coming back to Trey Burke in my comparison to him. And Trey was a way better college player. This dude has no NBA body.

[doordoor123]

I'm going to keep coming back to Trey Burke in my comparison to him. And Trey was a way better college player. This dude has no NBA body.

Lol no

[azcatz11]

I'm going to keep coming back to Trey Burke in my comparison to him. And Trey was a way better college player. This dude has no NBA body.

Lol no

What part of no?

[doordoor123]

I'm going to keep coming back to Trey Burke in my comparison to him. And Trey was a way better college player. This dude has no NBA body.

Lol no

What part of no?

Just no.

[GimmeDat]

I'm going to keep coming back to Trey Burke in my comparison to him. And Trey was a way better college player. This dude has no NBA body.

Lol no

What part of no?

Young scores 10 more points per 40, gets to the line nearly twice as much, much better FT shooter, much better passer, all this as a freshman. There's so many differences.

[Justwar]

Burke played with better players within a slower style. All should be factors. I still think young will have problems fitting in with other good players because he's not a great enough shooter to get over his need to hold the ball.

[No-Man]

Burke played with better players within a slower style. All should be factors. I still think young will have problems fitting in with other good players because he's not a great enough shooter to get over his need to hold the ball.

he is a great enough shooter, actually he is the best shooter for a frosh I have seen since Steph, not particularly close

[Kool_Name_Right]

Burke played with better players within a slower style. All should be factors. I still think young will have problems fitting in with other good players because he's not a great enough shooter to get over his need to hold the ball.

Shooters like Young are easy enough to mold in the league. Put him with some better players who can create without him and his efficiency will go up

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[SeattleJazzFan]

does Oklahoma make the dance?

[Cammo101]

does Oklahoma make the dance?

Nope.

[JMac1]

I can understand the qualms in the top5 if you are a risk-avoider (I am not) but like after that, and in the range that he is probably gonna get drafted (I think he goes from 6 to 11 most likely) it's really hard to justify to me that he is a bad pick at that range

The key word here is risk-avoider. I think only Bagley, Ayton, and Doncic are the only players that have the least amount of risk, after that....all of them have risk.

So from 4 and back I’d take him based off of that word. I’m sure the Suns agree with you. I’d trade back a take him happily.

[JMac1]

does Oklahoma make the dance?

Nope.

It’s called money maker......Trae Young brings viewers, period. In!